Our Lady of Revelation

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I was re listening to some of the second video lat night and something Our Lady told Bruno really struck me. The Mother of God said that before the conversion of Russia and Great Sign would come a great persecution. Since this Great Persecution and Great Sign has not as yet come logically the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate heart of Mary has not yet taken place. It follows that the Great Sign and Conversion will take place after the Consecration of Russia as Our Lady of Fatima originally indicated.

    You the know the more I look at the Statue of Our Lady of Revelation the more I love her. There is such goodness shinning there

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  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Concerning what Our Lady told Bruno about Islam attacking Catholics , well we only have to see what happened yesterday in Barcelona to see it happening right before our very eyes.

    The current narrative we are sold by the media, Western Governments and the Vatican is that Islam is a peaceful religion and that people who resort to violent Holy War are heretics. On the contrary I believe that those who resort to Holy War or Jihad are acting exactly as the False Prophet urged them to and that those who speak out against it who are in Islamic terms, the heretics.

    Our Lady indicates an end point to this were Islam will try to slaughter us wholesale. This is the truth that no one dare speak. Certainly no one in the Vatican because it goes against the Liberal, we're all in this together narrative our Liberal Political Establishment are trying to promote.

    Very well then if Islam is so peaceful lets send large colonies of Christians to live in Islamic countries, like, say Saudi Arabia and see how they get on.

    What our Lady basically told Bruno was this,

    'They are coming to get you'.

    Who can doubt this?

     
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  3. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Make sure you watch to catch all the crusades that were fought.

     
  4. Harper

    Harper Guest

    Padraig,
    What is the situation in Ireland with Islamic immigrants? We don't hear anything about that over here.
     
  5. Jarg

    Jarg Archangels

    This article from Rene Girard I think is pretty revelatory regards the role Islam is playing in our times - things are going to get worse until the west faces the reality of what is happening. Maybe the great persecution Bruno refers to comes from Islam? Since it has already started in the Middle East, imagine what could happen if more Muslims in Europe took to action... Here is an excerpt:

    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2009/08/on-war-and-apocalypse

    ...On September 11, people were shaken, but they quickly calmed down. There was a flash of awareness, which lasted a few fractions of a second. People could feel that something was happening. Then a blanket of silence covered up the crack in our certainty of safety. Western rationalism operates like a myth: We always work harder to avoid seeing the catastrophe. We neither can nor want to see violence as it is. The only way we will be able to meet the terrorist challenge is by radically changing the way we think. Yet, the clearer it is what is happening, the stronger our refusal to acknowledge it. This historical configuration is so new that we do not know how to deal with it. It is precisely a modality of what Pascal saw: the war between violence and truth. Think about the inadequacy of our recent avant-gardes who preached the nonexistence of the real.

    We have to think about time in such a way that the Battle of Poitiers and the Crusades are much closer to us than the French Revolution and the industrialization of the Second Empire in France. The points of view of Western countries are at most unimportant background features for Islamists. They think of the Western world as having to be Islamicized as quickly as possible. Analysts tend to say that this is the attitude of isolated minorities cut off from the reality in their countries. They may be so with respect to action, of course, but with respect to thought? Despite everything, does such thinking not contain something essentially Islamic? This is a question that we have to have the courage to ask, even though it is a given that terrorism is a brutal action that hijacks religious codes for its own purposes. It would not have taken such a hold on people’s minds if it did not bring up to date something that has always been present in Islam. To the great surprise of our secular republicans, religious thought is still very much alive in Islam. It cannot be denied that some of Muhammad’s theses are active in today’s world.

    What we are witnessing with Islam, however, is nonetheless much more than a return of conquest; it is what has been rising ever since the French Revolution, after the communist period that acted as an intermediary. Indeed, Leninism had some of these features, but what it lacked was religion. Our new escalation to extremes is thus able to use all components: culture, fashion, political theory, theology, ideology, and religion. What drives history is not what seems essential in the eyes of Western rationalists.

    If we had said in the 1980s that Islamism would play the role it plays today, people would have thought we were crazy. Yet the ideology promoted by Stalin already contained parareligious components that foreshadowed the increasingly radical contamination that has occurred over time. We therefore have to radically change the way we think and try to understand the situation without any presuppositions and using all the resources available from the study of Islam.

    The work to be done is immense. Personally, I have the impression that this religion has used the Bible as a support to rebuild an archaic religion that is more powerful than all the others. It threatens to become an apocalyptic tool, the new face of the escalation to extremes. Even though there are no longer any archaic religions, it is as if a new one had arisen built on the back of the Bible, a slightly transformed Bible. It would be an archaic religion strengthened by aspects of the Bible and Christianity. Archaic religion collapsed in the face of Judeo-Christian revelation, but Islam resists. While Christianity eliminates sacrifice wherever it gains a foothold, Islam seems in many respects to situate itself prior to that rejection. ...
     
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  6. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Islam viciously persecutes and takes the lives of the saints and the children of God more so than any kingdom that has ever existed. For 1200 years it slew the Saints. We are seeing right now the rise again of the Ottoman empire before our very eyes yet people are unaware.

    It is portrayed as a lamb by the world and it speaks as a dragon.
     
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  7. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Dolours,

    Thank you. I should have gone back and checked the dates then surely I would have noticed it. I am pretty certain that the priest states "all truths of the faith" as opposed to "any truth of the faith" as you have stated but also, as you have highlighted, the above is from a dream of Bruno's.

    I think the order of how the prophecies are stated/read makes a difference in how I/we interpret them. In Father Wolfe's sermon, IMO, he was wise to put the dream stated in your post after the following prophecy:

    On 31 December 1990 Our Lady tells the seer Cornacchiola:

    "False prophets, who seek by all means to poison the souls changing the doctrine of Jesus in satanic doctrines; They will take away the Sacrifice of the cross that is repeated on the altars all over the world" (op. cit., p. 221).
    This prophecy appears to be the abomination of desolation/the antichrist and was directly from Our Lady as opposed to a dream. So, I still believe, that if Bruno's visions and locutions are from heaven, he was given more information than was given to the seers at Fatima or at Garabandal. At least, this is my opinion based on the information that was "formally" shared with the public from both Fatima and Garabandal. Maybe Sister Lucy, for instance, was shown more which she eluded to at one point, the book of Revelation chapters 8 to 13, but maybe she was not 100% certain of this when she was questioned about it many years later. In addition, I believe that the seers at Garabandal have also stated that there were certain things they were told that they should not divulge.

    Thank you for the information on that book. I am aware of that particular book from the article and there is another one which is described as 164 page booklet by Monsignor Francesco Spadafora. There are surely many more details of Bruno's visions which have not been included in these articles, hence the articles contain so many of following notations, [...] .

    For awhile, I felt that we are meant to confuse our current time with the time of the antichrist. I can't be certain what the future holds but I feel pretty certain that Pope Francis is not the antichrist or the false prophet from Revelation, at least he does not appear to be either of these two currently.

    If we study the approved prophecies of Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser and even Saint Hildegard among others which have not been approved as of yet, it appears that there will be a huge war, so huge that people will think that it is Armageddon. For the past few weeks I have tried to remedy this idea with what the seers at Garabandal were told, that there will be no WWIII. I don't want to scare anyone, that is not my intention at all, but I realized why this huge war won't be called WWIII, because I think people will call it Armageddon or the Apocalypse.

    In the 2nd video beginning @ the 24:45min mark, Our Lady describes a nuclear war to Bruno and she states, "Call it the Apocalypse". The following prophecy from the article which I posted is part of what is stated in the video...

    On 12 March 1983, Our Lady of Revelation tells Cornacchiola:

    "The danger is at the door, a nuclear war, if you act as I have said, it is inevitable"
    [...] “I speak to all, the atomic is ready, men without conscience threaten to use it, and the danger is closer than you think" (op. Cit., P. 223).

    In the video, Father Wolfe states that the above prophecy continues with,

    "call it Apocalpyse but it will occur if you do not convert, there will be no bomb shelters to save you, take refuge in the church..."

    From the following which includes part of Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser's prophecies, I believe describes the time we are in at the moment along with the near future,

    THE FIFTH EPOCH, which commences with the birth of Protestantism, and wherein we still live, is the state of "TRIBULATION,” (status afflictionis.)[The Protestant movement… is popularly considered to have begun in 1517 when Luther published The Ninety-Five Theses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism]

    “This,” says Holzhauser, “is a state of trouble, desolation, humiliation, and poverty for the church. We may with just reason call it a state of purification, in which the Lord Jesus Christ has sifted His wheat, and will sift it again by wars, by seditions, by famines, by epidemics, and other scourges, by the tribulation and the poverty which He will suffer to weigh on the Latin church, by means of heretics and bad Christians, who will take from her the greater part of her bishoprics and countless monasteries, especially the wealthier ones. She is oppressed even by Catholic princes, and despoiled by means of taxes, imposts, and other extortions; so that we may say, in groaning with the prophet Jeremiah, ‘The queen of nations hath been placed under the yoke.’ The church is (Beykirch, p. 138) become poor and miserable, because she hath been calumniated by heretics, because her ministers are despised by bad Christians, who render them neither honor nor respect. By all these means God will sift His wheat; He will cast the chaff away to be burnt, and will gather the wheat into His barns. This fifth state of the church is the state of tribulation, the state of apostasy, full of miseries of every kind. Few will be spared by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence. We shall see kingdom rise against kingdom; empires will be divided in themselves, and brought to desolation; principalities and monarchies will be overturned, and almost the whole world will sink into poverty. The greatest desolation will reign over the earth."
    After the Fifth Period of the Church Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser's prophecies describe the Sixth Period of the Church as the period before the antichrist,

    “THE SIXTH PERIOD of the church the (status consolationis)—time of “CONSOLATION” begins with the HOLY POPE and the POWERFUL EMPEROR, and terminates with the birth of Anti-christ. (Revelations, 3: 7, 10.)

    Read more here: https://www.latinritemass.org/bartholomew-holzhauser/apocalypse/

    So, if we believe Venerable Bartholomew Holzhauser's prophecies are from heaven and if we are in the Fifth Period of the church then there will be two more periods; the Sixth Period a time of Consolation beginning with a Holy Pope and Powerful Emperor, and the Seventh Period a time of Desolation beginning with the Antichrist and ending with the Second Coming.
     
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  8. We are perhaps entering into the man made punishment of the world of the two punishments promised: one man made and the other coming from God. When you look at history other man made attempts to destroy many have been answered by a seemingly God sent nation of greater force and "chance, and those guilty were held afterwards to their crimes through the international courts that occurred for the whole world to witness what comes out of evil.

    Now, with the ability of massive man made destruction, which itself seems more like a diabolically encouraged suicide by those under control of Satan, God must answer with His own counter rather than watch His creation be demolished and the responsible parties go un-noticed. That perhaps is where the prophesied cosmic forces come into play and make people become "watchful", through human fear, about their own actions....as in natural disasters themselves being the result of cosmic "pressures" (and how sin forces nature itself to react)....and leading up to the Warning where, again, people will universally see themselves and their true intentions, contrary to God, as God sees them. For some that will be quite a personal punishment indeed. Beyond that, no mercy can be given for further actions against God. Then comes, in the end, the complete cleansing of the evil, preparing for the time of the Divine Will coming to pass as promised for a period of time....until the final end of the world. Since God seems to let us know, in the moment, just how His Revelation is unfolding (since it always has been a mystery held within a mystery), and since such things cannot be tied down by man's understanding alone, we learn how, as well, mitigations can occur as we go along and "surprises" can happen contrary to what we have neatly outlined to expect!

    While prophecies of old were given within the truths of those times, warning that if things continued in the same way, thus and so would occur sometime in the future. And as time went on, either ameliorating the sin of those times or not, other prophets were sent to add to or subtract from what had been given. Some wars seeming inevitable at one time were canceled or mitigated. And the very facts of some cases where individuals bent upon committing suicide were themselves stopped by some type of intervention on the way to accomplishing their intentions, be it even just a smile by someone passing, we can't tell how our unseen actions in prayer and sacrifice are also now reaching heaven for the sake of the whole world. So, perhaps focusing too much on what human nature desires to finalize as "done deals" through past, even perhaps misunderstood prophecies or messages, we may miss the mark, or give up to soon on the little lights of the moment given to us for hope. Things are bound to come, yes, but God can still show His power, by breaking up the approaching cosmic "junk" to the extent our prayers merit, or stop a nuke in mid air or even on the ground!!
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I saw a website that gives a break down of how many Muslims in each country are fighting Jihad abroad. It estimated that Ireland had 200 fighters abroad fighting. The Irish Islamic chickens will come home to roost one day and cause us some trouble , but tiny compared to other countries. I note that several thousand US citizens are fighting Jihad abroad for instance and will come back home highly trained fighters.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...in-ISIS-return-carry-Paris-style-attacks.html
     
  10. The company you keep! Where are the mothers who used to warn...."if everybody else jumped off the roof would you follow?"
     
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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think , personally that their families support them to the hilt.

    The idea of them being brain washed or radicalized is a joke. They are adults as we are. I think anyone who goes away to fight Jihad is guilty of treason.

    I am not the least bit sympathetic to them at all. They should be tried by military courts if they return, as I say for treason and shot.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Treat a Lion like a Lion. These people want to cut our heads off. I am amazed this does not seem to ring any alarm bells in Governments or the media. People who want to cut our heads off should be taken very, very seriously indeed.

    It is a kind of insanity or blindness that seems to affect them all. Including the Vatican, more Islamic influx would be a kind of suicide Literally.
     
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  13. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    The idea that they are brainwashed is simply modern mans way of interpreting the demonic foothold on their minds and spirits.
     
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  14. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    But they look like a lamb padraig! Everyone tells us so.
     
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  15. Jarg

    Jarg Archangels

    The PC establishment are obsessed with the victim status of muslims. I understand there needs to be dialogue with muslims and understanding, but the understanding needs to be from a position of honesty - meaning we have to dialogue about the violence in Islam with the muslims, and address that issue. And we have to tell them the hard truth, which is that they can't be allowed to emigrate to our countries in great numbers as long as the don't address the violence problem and allow christians to go to their countries in great numbers too. The other big issue there is that there are many Christians in muslim countries, and any confrontation with Islam has mayor repercussions on those christian communities. But the PC blindness is worse than blindness, its suicidal and in many cases, as we saw from Soros emails, is not blind but purposeful - aims to destroy any remains of Christianity left in Europe and make it into a 'Christianity liberated' place of 'many religions'.



    “The most powerful anti-Christian movement [today] is the one that takes over and "radicalizes" the concern for victims in order to paganize it. The powers and principalities want to be “revolutionary” now, and they reproach Christianity for not defending victims with enough ardor. In Christian history they see nothing but persecutions, acts of oppression, inquisitions.

    This other totalitarianism presents itself as the liberator of humanity. In trying to usurp the place of Christ, the powers imitate him in the way a mimetic rival imitates his model in order to defeat him. They denounce the Christian concern for victims as hypocritical and a pale imitation of the authentic crusade against oppression and persecution for which they would carry the banner themselves. In the symbolic language of the New Testament, we would say that in our world Satan, trying to make a new start and gain new triumphs, borrows the language of victims." ― René Girard, I See Satan Fall Like Lightning
     
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  16. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yes all very true in one manner or another. However, we know and have seen first hand how Islam can (like communism) not exist autonomously and requires complete domination. So either Mr Soros is severely ignorant of history or he knows this very well and he and his ilk plan to use this to attempt to extinguish Catholicism and rule as the Sultans of old.

    It is precisely why there is such a push to go to war with Russia. Can't have the Faith rising up again in any meaningful way to threaten the plans of these powers.
     
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  17. Jarg

    Jarg Archangels

    Apparently the popularity of Russia is growing fast in Eastern European countries, specially in Poland and Hungary, because obviously there is a majority of people there that have more affinity with current Russia's family and political views than with he PC establishment in Europe and US. This I heard from a friend that was just in Poland.
     
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    padraig Powers

  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Brilliant, but it must be admitted that the greatest deception is not outside the Church but inside it and carried out in the exact same way.
     
  20. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

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