U.S. Launches Missiles at Syria After Chemical Weapons Attack

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  1. Aviso

    Aviso Guest

    Between us only, what to you mean by earthtoangels ? only God's Angels exists, those are the teaching of the Church, the same for any Fallen Saint, you cannot be a Saint then Fallen, this would be a heresy, with all due respect, please would be kind to explain to me the meaning of your avatar, thank you.
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

  3. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    I believe this will turn into, unfortunately, a disaster.
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    My own believe is that Intelligence Organisations like British Intelligence and the CIA are run directly by the Illuminati, which is to say by the devil. They have their own agenda and are loyal to neither Britain , America or any Democratic concept whatsoever. They are playing Trump currently like a yo yo. Poor man.

    The very same people who are currently running the Vatican.

     
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  5. Indy

    Indy Praying

    Ron says it all, massive false flag, why would Assad commit suicide like this!
     
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  6. The Illuminati run the media....means of communication.
     
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  7. Because he got away with a much more massive chemical attack earlier with no U.S. response (or any for that matter). He's been regularly bombing such areas anyway in order to keep any thought of rebellion in check....just another form of terror. He has a larger backup power in Putin now so "suicide" wasn't seriously considered. This was proven when even after the attack Russia/Syria also tried to get rid of any evidence by bombing the hospital offering care to the victims. You're not dealing with reasonable or Godly forces here. Putin, once again, is no angel. He truly needs the push of any new insights towards conversion by the Consecration. Other probable methods having been used....also I believe to be prohibited under international law (strategic bombing of civilians):

    The Syrian and Russian governments have both been accused of using thermobaric bombs against rebel forces. Compelling evidence supports the claims of devastating consequences for nearby civilians.

    It is brutally clear why Vladimir Putin and his ally Bashar al Assad might use these weapons. Thermobaric bombs are highly destructive with fearsome, direct physical effects. In opposition-held areas, civilians are just as likely to be affected as combatants. The indirect effects are also desirable from Syrian and Russian government perspectives. Local communities are terrorized into submission or displaced, joining the millions of refugees seeking sanctuary elsewhere.

    http://www.newsweek.com/vacuum-bombs-syria-new-means-atrocity-491359
     
  8. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    This attack?

     
  9. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    How can you say this and then in your next post use Newsweek as an example of reputable information?

    This is the problem we have now in the US. The deceit, lies and corruption have spread so deep that corp media and our intelligence agencies are no longer trusted (and rightly so) by the majority of Americans let alone the world. What happens historically when these kinds of events take place? Usually it means a nation is about to fall, a strong man will rise up, brutally grasp power and a whole lot of people will die.

    Look at the list of names who have praised this action. Its a veritable who's who of the entrenched elite one worlders in our government.
     
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  10. padraig

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  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

  12. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yes padraig and meanwhile, cooler heads who look for actual validity to these accusations will be conveniently silenced by all but a few. Since the WTC attacks the strike first find the facts later regime has been very busy.

    https://www.ncronline.org/news/world/catholic-leaders-syria-criticize-us-missile-strikes

    Catholic leaders in Syria criticize US missile strikes

    WASHINGTON
    Two prominent Catholic leaders in Syria criticized the U.S. missile strikes against their nation, wondering why they occurred before investigations into the origins of chemical attacks reported April 4.

    But U.S. President Donald Trump said Syrian President Bashar Assad "launched a horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians" and "choked out the lives of helpless men, women and children."

    "No child of God should ever suffer such horror," he said April 6, announcing that he had ordered the strike against the air base from which he said the chemical weapons attack was launched.

    Syriac Catholic Patriarch Ignace Joseph Younan called the attack an aggression and told Catholic News Service: "It is a shame that the United States administration didn't wait until an honest United Nations investigation was thoroughly made into what is said to be a chemical air strike in Khan Shaykun."

    "The agglomerate media and the supremacist policy of the USA just want the killing and destroying conflict in Syria to continue, and this primarily to kill whatever attempt to resolve the bloody crisis," added Younan, who was born in Syria and served for 14 years as bishop of the New Jersey-based Diocese of Our Lady of Deliverance for Syriac Catholics in the United States and Canada.

    Bishop Georges Khazen, who serves Latin-rite Catholics in Aleppo, told the Rome-based Fides news agency that he was baffled by "the speed with which it was decided and carried out, without any adequate investigation into the tragic massacre with chemical weapons which took place in Idlib province."

    He said the attack "opens new disturbing scenarios for all."

    The U.S. launched 59 missiles from the USS Ross and USS Porter in the Mediterranean early April 7 local time. U.S. officials said they targeted Shayrat Air Base's airstrips, hangars, control tower and ammunition areas.

    In his statement, Trump said, "There can be no dispute that Syria used banned chemical weapons, violated its obligations under the Chemical Weapons Convention and ignored the urging of the U.N. Security Council."

    The president said it was vital to U.S. security interests "to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons," and he called on other nations "to join us in seeking to end the slaughter and bloodshed in Syria and also to end terrorism of all kinds and all types."

    "Years of previous attempts at changing Assad's behavior have all failed and failed very dramatically," Trump said. "As a result, the refugee crisis continues to deepen and the region continues to destabilize, threatening the United States and its allies."

    "We ask for God's wisdom as we face the challenge of our very troubled world. We pray for the lives of the wounded and for the souls of those who have passed, and we hope that as long as America stands for justice, that peace and harmony will in the end prevail," he said.

    Syrian officials called the attack a "blatant aggression," and the General Command of the Syrian army said it "confirms the continuation of the wrong American strategy and restricts the counterterrorist operation that the Syrian army is conducting."

    The Syrian state news agency SANA reported nine civilians, including four children, were killed in the U.S. attack. SANA said the civilians died in villages near the airbase and that seven more people were wounded.

    It was not clear whether this figure included any of the six dead announced by the Syrian army earlier.

    Younan, who said he passed Shayrat Air Base after the strike, en route to celebrate a funeral in Hafar, noted the U.S. was accusing Syria — a U.N. member — of using chemical weapons, but had not investigated the charge.

    "The Syrian army was fighting successfully to end the bloody conflict going on for long. It did not need any military intervention that would be condemned by international agencies, such as using chemicals," he said. He added that Christians would suffer the consequences, and the final results of displacement and persecution would not be known for decades.

    After the chemical attack was reported, Chaldean Bishop Antoine Audo of Aleppo told Fides that although he understood things were not always what they seemed, he could not imagine the Syrian government "is so naive and ignorant to be able to do such 'errors.'"

    He said the Syrian government and opposition continued to blame each other for the 2013 chemical attack in the suburbs of Damascus.

    "Two days ago, U.S. President Donald Trump said that Assad is part of the solution of the Syrian problem. Now he makes statements that say the contrary," Bishop Audo told Fides. "There are interests of regional powers involved in the war. We should always take this into account, especially when certain things are repeated with similar dynamics, and trigger the same reactions and the same effects already experienced in the past."

     
  13. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers


    I gave up the news and internet for Lent (except on Sundays) and so it looks like I have some catching up to do. If this is true and Trump has indeed attacked Assad's regular Syrian Army over a "chemical weapons attack" (all the previous ones that Obama's State Department blamed on Assad ended up being the work of the demonic "Syrian Rebels") then it looks like Trump has not only continued by enlarged Obama's evil Foreign Policy in Syria and Trump has deceived us all who voted for him to put America First. There's not a single genuine American national security interest in Syria, certainly not one worth a war with nuclear Russia over; if anyone tells you that there is, ask them when they are picking up a rifle and headed to Syria. This would be two strikes against Trump in my book, the other one coming when he attacked the Freedom Caucus instead of Paul Ryan over the failed Healthcare bill. I'm running out of explanations with which to defend Trump, although I will not stop praying for him. The only good explanation that I heard for this attack on Syria is that it was staged so that President Trump looks like he's not in bed with Russia: notice how the liberal media is silent on the Russian and Trump involvement. It could have been a chess move by Trump and Putin to get the media off of Trump's back over Russia. It seems Trump's own enemies like Larry O'Donnell are also suspecting that Trump might be beating them at their own game when it comes to Russia. On his show, Larry let slip what he thinks Trump really did in Syria and if true, it would be an epic move on Trump's part. I'll quote O'Donnell:

    ...Vladimir Putin was essentially the man in charge of making sure that Syria got rid of all of its chemical weapons under a deal with the Obama administration. And so it makes perfect sense to question whether President Bashar al-Assad would have checked with his most important patron, Vladimir Putin, before using chemical weapons that Vladimir Putin was supposed to have helped get rid of. It would be terribly embarrassing to Vladimir Putin if President Assad had exposed Vladimir Putin as having completely failed to get rid of those chemical weapons. You wouldn’t want to be Bashar al-Assad in a conversation with Vladimir Putin after that, unless you had a conversation with him before that. Unless Vladimir Putin said, ‘I have an idea. go ahead, do a small chemical attack, nothing like the big ones you’ve done in the past, just big enough to attract media attention. So that my friend in the White House will see it on TV. And then, Donald Trump can fire some missiles at Syria, that’ll do no real damage, and then the American news media will change the subject from Russian influence in the Trump campaign and the Trump transition and the Trump White House.’ It’s perfect.”

    He continued, “For most of the news media, it changes the conventional wisdom about the dynamic between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. President Trump has finally dared to do something that Vladimir Putin doesn’t like. It changes everything. As long as you never, never question whether Vladimir Putin wanted all of this to happen this week. And when you question that and you look at what has happened, it’s always worth remembering that if Vladimir Putin really does have ways, known or unknown to Donald Trump, to influence Donald Trump, then every day that is a good day for President Trump is a good day for President Putin. Now not one word that I’ve just said could possibly have been said about any president prior to Donald Trump.
    Of course, the flip side is that if Trump is powerful enough to play this kind of chess behind the establishment's back, why would he be worried about the establishment's influence in the first place? Sort of makes your head spin. I guess its best to put the situation into the hands of Our Blessed Mother and not worry about it more than we have to.
     
  14. padraig

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    It all seems to a big rerun of President Woodrow Wilson and the entry of the USA into the First World war. President Wilson was an avid isolationist and wanted no part in the war and campaigned on those grounds. Then just when he got into the White House the Illumininati State Department went to work and bang, the USA was up to its neck in the First World War.

    Its exactly the same deal with Donald Trump. He is being led by the nose.

    The New Order

    Novus Ordo

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  15. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    and 100 years later...
     
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  16. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    The Neocons are the descendants of the Bolsheviks who overthrew Christian Russia in 1917. Now it appears they are overthrowing Trump's Presidency and getting ready to finish their dirty work against Russia that they began exactly 100 years ago. My how things have come full circle. But Our Lady of Fatima will Triumph over their warmongering schemes and God's Justice is always worth waiting for.
     
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    What is the difference between President Trumps current foreign policy, President Obama's Foreign Policy, President Clinton's Foreign Policy, President Bush's Foreign Policy and so on?

    Answer.

    There is none.

    For they are all the same policy, directed by the same people for the same purpose.

    Only their campaign promises were ever different.
     
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  18. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Not to sidetrack this thread but the fact that we have a total solar eclipse over the US from one end to the other and coming in a few short months only for the United States sure cries out REPENT and come back to me! Yet, nobody I talk with is even aware of it and even fewer find any significance to its arrival or subsequent dates like the anniversary of Fatima or the other sign in the heavens TWCWTS coming as well.

    I was hopeful that maybe it would get peoples attention if they were caught by surprise by this when it happens but now I have to wonder if anyone will even notice and most of all consider it.
     
  19. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    I think Michael Scheuer sums up my feelings on this Syria attack. Scheuer, for those who do not know, was CIA Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station (aka "Alec Station"), the Osama bin Laden tracking unit at the Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999. He also served as Special Advisor to the Chief of Alec Station from September 2001 to November 2004. Scheuer stated that Clinton had eight to ten opportunities to kill bin Laden prior to September 11, and Bush had one opportunity thereafter. He resigned from the CIA over the inaction of the Government to take authorize decisive action against Bin Laden. Had Scheuer been listened to, 9/11 would never have happened. Scheuer is a Catholic by the way. Here is what he has to say about Trump's attack on Syria and I fully agree:

    A central concern of the Founding generation, when writing the Constitution, was to ensure that no one man, or one man and his clique, could take the republic to war. To that end, the Constitution delegates the citizenry’s power to declare war solely to its servants in Congress, and, in doing so, uses language that makes it clear that the Congress cannot delegate this power to the executive branch of the government. The ability of a president to order military action was — and is — tightly limited to instances in which the United States is attacked or, perhaps, if a clear threat must be preempted.

    Since 1955, however, every president and every Congress have acted in clear and deliberate violation of the Constitution’s allocation of war-making powers. In 1955, the Congress passed a resolution — called an “Authorization for the Use of Military Force” (AUMF) — that allowed President Eisenhower to do what he wanted, when he wanted to do it, with U.S. military forces in the defense of Formosa (Taiwan) against Mao’s China. Later, the Vietnam war began with another AUMF, and every other U.S. war since Vietnam has started with one, save for those which the president started off his own hook — the Obama/Clinton Libyan war, for example, — without even bothering to seek an unconstitutional delegation of the war-making power from Congress.

    Your 6 April 2017 attack on a Syrian military airfield/chemical-storage depot, Mr. President, is the latest example of this unconstitutional war-making. The barrage of 60 cruise missiles — worth about $5.5 billion — was, as usual for the U.S. military, a feckless exercise in concrete-smashing. As in Bill Clinton’s Serbia war, the national government attacked a state that had not harmed the United States, and in which the republic has no genuine national interests at stake. All of this was done via the decision and then orders of one man — advised by his unelected advisers — for the U.S. military to conduct an unconstitutional act of offensive war, as if the republic is an absolute and so lawless monarchy.

    President Trump, was your pledge to install a commonsense, non-interventionist and America First foreign policy just lying words? I trusted that they were not, but now I wonder. You appear to have been genuinely shaken by the chemical attacks and the deaths that resulted therefrom. Yes, Mr. Trump, war is tough and bloody, and people of all ages get killed, just ask some Gold Star families. But if you truly launched 60 cruise missiles because you were overcome by your personal emotions after seeing the results of the chemical attack, your temperament is worrisome. Indeed, if you attacked because you felt bad about the deaths in Syria, you created a situation in which the Founders’ genius has never been on better display than in their creation of a document that tried to make sure that no single distraught individual could use the republic’s military power to seek revenge for his personal pain.

    What have you and the pro-war Americans gained from the attacks, Mr. Trump? Are you and they enjoying soothed sensitivities and weeping less? Well, good on you and them. Other than some smashed-up military facilities, a handful of dead Syrians, and 20 or so destroyed Syrian aircraft, you, your generals, and advisers achieved only a disgrace.

    –You ignored constitutional requirements and you attacked a state that did not threaten the republic. These are two distinct and self-inflicted defeats for the rule of law.

    –You probably will see he Russians and the Iranians station additional aircraft squadrons of their own in Syria, and more sophisticated anti-aircraft systems, to replace Syrian losses and issue a silent challenge to you to come after them.

    –You have certainly focused Syrian and Iranian irregular forces in the Syria and Iraq on the task of killing U.S. Marines and soldiers in response.

    –You followed the attack by placing more sanctions on Syria, which appears to mean that, as in Iraq under Clinton and Bush, the killing of civilians — including kids like those you got all weepy over — by starvation and the lack of medical care is, as Albright said, “worth it”.

    So as not to be entirely negative, Mr. Trump, there is some praise flowing in for your attack. The NATO leaders who refuse to defend themselves, and want America to do so and pay for the privilege, have given you a collective thumps up. The Arab tyrants who oppress their peoples, and fund al-Qaeda and the Islamic State, think you are swell. And just look at the hurrahs coming from Israel’s leader, who graciously took time out from extorting U.S.taxpayer money from the congressmen and senators he has suborned to send his congratulations. Needless to say, the leaders of ISIS and al-Qaeda also have sent you their hearty thanks.

    Finally, I hope you can revel in the widespread praise of those who are more loyal to Israel and endless war than they are to the United States, and who did all they could to elect Clinton, defame your family, and slander you. The praise of disloyal, Neocon, and interventionist U.S. citizens like John McCain, Bill Kristol and his Weekly Standard, Lindsey Graham, and Marco Rubio, whose speech on FOX this morning must have been written by AIPAC, emanate from men who hate your guts and will never stop seeking to destroy you. Their praise is not even worth what John Nance Garner once described as a “bucket of warm spit.”

    You said, Mr. President, that you only wanted to be America’s president, and not the president of the world. Well the only way to be the former is to obey the constitution, and the only way to be the latter is evade it, so as to become the world’s self-funding policeman who gets the title of “Leader of the Free World”, which means you get to bleed the United States white by fighting other peoples’ wars. That title would be sought only by a Globalist, never by an American nationalist.

    Your attack on Syria — like the attacks of all your post-1945 predecessors — evaded the constitution, and so damaged the republic by undermining the rule of law. The achievements that the attack achieved are, at best, paltry, Islamist-assisting, and unconscionably expensive. The applause you have won for attacking is both a plague sent by your and the republic’s enemies, and a nightmare for your supporters and advocates.

    Surely you must remember the latter, Mr. Trump, they are the people who elected you because they believed you meant what you said about putting America First. Perhaps they were wrong. http://non-intervention.com/2690/if...ou-learn-the-constitution-means-what-it-says/
     
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  20. Richard67

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    It reminds me of the fact that many of the Jews during Jesus' time had such hardened hearts that they forgot about the old testament prophecies and the fact that Jesus was fulfilling them before their very eyes. One such old testament prophecy (from Zechariah) was fulfilled on Palm Sunday, and yet many had grown so cold or indifferent it passed before their eyes without even a thought to what they were witnessing in realtime:

    "Say to daughter Zion,
    Behold, your king comes to you,
    meek and riding on an ass,
    and on a colt, the foal of a beast of burden"

     
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