Consecration of Russia

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  1. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    I have started this thread to hopefully encourage all of us to say the Rosary for the Consecration of Russia. We NEED this to be done.
    Please watch the video below and you will see how powerful Consecration is within the first 20 minutes.
    I ask you now a question how can we as individuals put pressure on the Church (Pope) to obey Our Lady of Fatima.

    Should the Pope be in fear of the consequences ???

    And what happened to the Kings of France for refusing to Consecrate France to the Sacred Heart ? One hundred years later to the day, on the 17th of June, 1789, the king was stripped of his power by the Third Estate and four years later his head was chopped off on the guillotine. "Make it known to My ministers, that given they follow the example of the King of France, indelaying the execution of My command.

    How can our representative of Christ on Earth be so ignorant even to history examples are there plain for him to see.

    We have got to get this done.....please include daily if not weekly a special Rosary for the Consecration of Russia. Have faith in our holy weapon.

     
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  2. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    Sorrowful Mysteries Tuesday & Friday
    FOR THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA

     
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  3. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    "One hundred years later to the day, on the 17th of June, 1789, the king was stripped of his power by the Third Estate and four years later his head was chopped off on the guillotine."

    This is why I am convinced that the year 2029 has some major significance. Our Lady came to Sister Lucy in Tuy Spain to request the consecration of Russia on the 13th of June, 1929.

    She said:
    ‘The moment has come in which God asks the Holy Father to make, in union with all the bishops of the world, the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, promising to save it by this means. So numerous are the souls which the justice of God condemns for sins committed against Me, that I come to ask for reparation. Sacrifice yourself for this intention and pray.’

    Note she said: "The moment has come..."
    This is "The moment" I believe when the 100 year countdown started. Not 1917.
    So June 13, 2029 would be 100 years "to the day" from that date.
    Of course this just is an educated guess. None of us can know for sure, but please everyone do not be disheartened if nothing Earth shattering "happens" this year.

    What does this mean exactly? I don't know. Maybe that will be the day the Pope is stripped of His power by the invasion of Russia and the setting up of a counterfeit Church. This is only an informed guess, but approved prophecy seems to indicate this could be the order of events to come.

    I think the Church and the world will have much to suffer between now and then.
     
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  4. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    It would not surprise me if you are correct it seems there is still a lot to happen before this takes place and I doubt it will all be squeezed in within the next year or so, so what you say sounds very plausible.
     
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  5. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Yes, 2029 seems the most likely year because it will be the actual centenary of Our Lady's request. That, of course, depends on whether or not the last consecration was acceptable. So, we can expect either some kind of chastisement or the full conversion of Russia. I'm mid-way through the First Saturday devotions. Please God, nothing will prevent me doing all five on this attempt.
     
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  6. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Seems all but certain the Consecration of Russia will not come before the Warning, as there is not, nor has been for decades, enough faithful bishops in the world that would join with the Holy Father in this essential request from our Lady of Fatima. However, after the Warning all Bishops who remain faithful to the true faith, no matter how few it may be, will most certainly join the Pope (whomever it is at the time) in the formal and true consecration as our Lady requested.
     
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  7. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

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  8. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

  9. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    The Joyful mysteries Monday & Saturday

    For the Consecration of Russia
     
  10. RE: Russia not being consecrated....from Luz de Maria messages:

    such as (rough translations from Italian):

    .....
    MESSAGE FROM OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
    24.02.2013

    YOU HAVE KNOWN THE THIRD SECRET THAT MY MOTHER revealed 'FATIMA AND YOU PUT BY, FOR NOT CREATE DISPUTES WITH MY PEOPLE, walking blindly and if you knew what My Mother announced, the heart of man would remain on alert what comes from above and would provide the institution holiness of My Church.

    MESSAGE FROM OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
    01/11/2014

    Children of My will:

    You have not listened to My Call to conversion and My Mother is teased by My own children, who have drawn the disasters on mankind like a magnet ... They have failed to implement the request made by my Mother at Fatima: the Russia has not been consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of My Mother.

    [The church will have a lot to answer for....perhaps the Warning will reflect this to the authorities there!!]

    https://translate.google.com/transl...cionesmarianas.com/fatimaita.html&prev=search
     
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  11. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    It makes you wonder why the Church will not reveal as Malachi Martin (he read the third secret) said there would be such a return of people to the church if they knew what it contained.
    And so what if Russia would be offended if it was consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary did she not promise peace so I really believe Satan is in the Church stopping this at the end of the day it is Our Lady's triumph, God help the fools who hindered this.
     
  12. And could this part:
    if you knew what My Mother announced, the heart of man would remain on alert what comes from above
    tie in to the most recent message below?:


    RE: THE WARNING.....from Mar. 31, 2017 as yet to be translated message to Luz de Maria:

    THE INSTANT IN WHICH THEY WILL BE EXAMINED BY THE SAME LOVE YOU HAVE DELIVERED AND POSSESSED, IS COMING. They will look, they will live, they will suffer for their bad deeds, and the lament will be strong. However great and unthinkable sins are committed, you walk with the Divine imprint, therefore I call you to repentance to save the soul.

    Beloved ones, loneliness will invade them and will keep them to the bone, they will live the true solitude, which they have never experienced before, they will examine themselves. The pain for every offense committed against the Divine Will will live it as if you were doing it at that very moment, with no one to defend you and yourselves. My Heart hurts before My children. After the Warning has passed, some will rage against God and cruelty will be greater toward My children. (1)

    Man will be astonished to look at Heaven and look at the fire that comes close to the Earth
    , only that man does not know that fire will then be that which reaches the soul and the conscience of every human being, burning sin with relentless fire. He will feel no more resisting. The heart of man will be in constant spiritual fatigue, do not yearn to fill it with the Word of My Son or mine.
     
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  13. And it seems possible that this statement below (and above) ties in with the sun miracle of Fatima as the "warning" or preview of THE Warning.....fear at first of being destroyed by this "fire coming close to earth" only to be "transformed" in a way, having the dirty muck (sin) covering everything, resulting from that torrential rain, be dried up along with its relief of not having the world destroyed through the intercession of the Mother:

    Man will be astonished to look at Heaven and look at the fire that comes close to the Earth, only that man does not know that fire will then be that which reaches the soul and the conscience of every human being, burning sin with relentless fire. He will feel no more resisting. The heart of man will be in constant spiritual fatigue, do not yearn to fill it with the Word of My Son or mine.
     
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  14. Any petitions going forth for Pope Francis to consecrate Russia by name at Fatima during his May visit there? Would such an event (doubtful) be a catalyst for a visit to Russia/Putin, to explain?

    Interesting how Fr. Gobbi unexpectedly received his first locution at Fatima about what his mission would be, spreading the MMP.

    https://www.ewtn.co.uk/news/catholi...ions-about-the-great-trial-of-apostasy-schism

    Why couldn't a Pope be expected to get his own message for such a "now or never" mission to finalize the original request at this late time? The "bishops of the world" part wouldn't be possible but heck the actual naming of Russia would be better than all the earlier attempts which too didn't have all of the bishops of the world but neither did they have Russia by name!!

    Legendary Vatican envoy predicts Francis may visit Russia, China

    https://cruxnow.com/church/2016/05/...nvoy-predicts-francis-may-visit-russia-china/
     
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  15. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    In one way I want the warning to come and in another I dread the thoughts of it. We the world need something to happen to turn back to God. I hope it's enough for everyone to change their ways that we may be spared the Chastisement or at least part of it.
     
  16. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    I think that every bishop that believes and is true to the church would drop everything to attend if it was the case, I also believe that if only half believed and showed up that would be enough as why have non believers there to taint the Consecration.
     
  17. Martina

    Martina Pray Hope and don't worry: Padre Pio

    Read the article above about how Pope John Paul II suffered over never being able to organise a meeting with the Russian Orthodox church makes my blood boil a little. No one can sort this out only Our Lady, as she has told us, it's so easy Consecrate Russia and leave the rest to her. How arrogant the Church had become.
     
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  18. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    It concerns me sometimes that so many people are expecting a major Fatima-related event this year. What if nothing happens? Will it give more ammunition to those who would shoot down the belief that Our Lady didn't appear to the children or that the promises were false? We can't put time constraints on Heaven. God will do things in His own time and not ours.
     
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  19. Jarg

    Jarg Archangels

    “I met with him every Wednesday for 13 years, and there wasn’t one occasion in which he didn’t speak to me about the Russian Church, it was an obsession,” the French cardinal said.

    Given the miraculous fall of the Soviet Union, pope JPII may have thought the consecration of 1984 was sufficient and that Russia will be then converted very soon...
     
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  20. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I am concerned about this also Dolours. Of course something very well may happen this year, but if I had to guess I would say no. Or at least not something huge and supernatural. I think the Church has just arrived at the foot of Calvary and we will be hanging on the Cross a long time. After all, World War II was a "Chastisement" of sorts predicted by the strange lights in the sky. That war lasted a long time, if you include the pre-war events going on around the globe that led up to the war, then the whole episode lasted about 10-15 years. I think this will be a long and severe Chastisement.

    I read an article by one of the speakers at the Fatima Center conferences and he said that most of the experts there now believe that 2029 is the date to keep an eye on because that is 100 years from the date that the Consecration of Russia was requested by Heaven in 1929. Yes there could be sweeping events of a grand scale happening between now and then, but I don't think anyone should pin their hopes on anything Earth shattering happening this year. Of course we should always be ready and indeed I think we are right at the beginning of the Chastisement now, perhaps even in it, but I think anyone who thinks it is something that is going to be a quick 1-2-3 is in for a surprise. There are many prophecies of sweeping events that will take at the very minimum several years.

    Another thing people should keep in mind is that the Illumination of Conscience is not an event that prophecy has said will happen at a particular time. It may happen before any of these events happen, but it may happen only before the Three Days of Darkness, which I think is much more likely.
     
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