Signs in the sun, moon, and stars

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Leo, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. DBM

    DBM Angels

    Hmmm, I think 1 Light year is about 5.879 * 10^12 Miles

    Multiply that by 40 years to get to 2.3516 * 10^14 miles, or about 2.35 trillion miles,

    Which I think is actually 235160000000000 miles away, and divide that by your given spacecraft speed, eg above it was mentioned 84500 mph, and you get 2, 782,958,580 hours journey time, divide again by number of hours in a year (8760)
    and you get 317 ooo years, more or less. (Glad to see my math & opinion tallies with MMM, I couldn't get the numbers to match until I remembered/googled the number of hours in a year!)

    Lets get more science fact out there rather than all the crud available on the web...


    Greetings to all, my brain is now closed for the night,

    God Bless,

    DBM.
     
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  2. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    You are making my head hurt :confused:
     
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  3. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Revelation 12:1 Sign Will Appear In 2017

    I suppose most here are familiar with this. For those who are not... this is a good, short presentation:

    A vision seen by St. John and described in Apocalypse or Revelation 12:1 will appear in the heavens in 2017. According to non-Catholic astronomers who have studied and looked at how these constellations have moved and will move around in the future, this will be the only time in history things will all line up like this.


     
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  4. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    In addition to the video above, here´s a well-balanced article on the same subject:

    Apocalypse Now? Another Great Sign Rises in the Heavens
    Written by Patrick Archbold
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    On September 23, 2017, we will see the constellation Virgo with the sun rise directly behind it (the woman clothed with the sun). These events transpire during the 100th anniversary of the apparitions of “the woman clothed in the sun,” Our Lady at Fatima in 1917. What does it mean?

    [Editorial Note: In the following article, I intend to present a series of facts and observations from which I draw no definitive conclusion. Yet, these facts and observations are of such a nature, for no other reason than their observation and reporting, that lend themselves to misinterpretation. So let me be clear, in the following article, I predict nothing. I am offering my observations on some upcoming phenomena, both heavenly and man-made, potentially of great import, that people might find interesting and of which people should be aware.]




    * * *
    The Great Sign in Heaven

    What if God gave us a sign, would we even notice it? What if God, like He has done before, gave us a heavenly sign, a portent of great and terrible events? Would we even take notice? Are we, like so many that have come before us, so busy in our day-to-day lives that we never bother to even look up anymore? What if God gave us a heavenly sign today, would we notice? And if we did notice, would we care or just ignore it as some superstitious nonsense?

    What if I told you that there is a forthcoming astronomical event that closely mirrors a sign from the Book of Revelation, stunning in its precision, context, and timing? Would you look up?
    Revelation 12:1-5


    “And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars:

    And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered.

    And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems:

    And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son.

    And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne. “

    More here: http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/ind...e-now-another-great-sign-rises-in-the-heavens
     
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  5. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I told and showed some friends this and I might of well said the moon is full. No real interest whatsoever. Same with the anniversary of Fatima, nobody I know seems to care. I have told several people about the full solar eclipse as well that had no idea it would be taking place.

    It seems that either people are completely numb to it or they simply are tuned out completely.
     
  6. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    My personal opinion is that the world is separating into two camps. Our camp is pretty empty now, hopefully as things heat up more people will become aware of what is happening. There are no atheists in foxholes or so the saying goes. I think that is one of the reasons for the Chastisement. One is to punish us for our sins, but another is to shake things up and wake people from their stupor. It is easier to ignore God when things are going well in the world, sadly it is only when things get hard that most people turn to Him.

    All of these signs are happening right in plain sight, but only the elect are taking note of them right now. We are very blessed to have been given this time to prepare both physically and spiritually.

    Right now we are being given the opportunity to be like the wise virgins:

    The Parable of the Ten Virgins

    1THEN shall the kingdom of heaven be like to ten virgins, who taking their lamps went out to meet the bridegroom and the bride. 2And five of them were foolish, and five wise. 3But the five foolish, having taken their lamps, did not take oil with them: 4But the wise took oil in their vessels with the lamps. 5And the bridegroom tarrying, they all slumbered and slept. 6And at midnight there was a cry made: Behold the bridegroom cometh, go ye forth to meet him. 7Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said to the wise: Give us of your oil, for our lamps are gone out. 9The wise answered, saying: Lest perhaps there be not enough for us and for you, go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10Now whilst they went to buy, the bridegroom came: and they that were ready, went in with him to the marriage, and the door was shut. 11But at last come also the other virgins, saying: Lord, Lord, open to us. 12But he answering said: Amen I say to you, I know you not. 13Watch ye therefore, because you know not the day nor the hour.
    -Matthew 25
     
  7. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I love to think about the 100 Aniversary of Fatima. Don D and Blizzard, are you aware that the formation of the stars on the mantle of Our Lady of Guadalupe have been shown to be the same as the star formation you mention moving into place starting 20th November 2016; the feast of Christ the King and completing on 23rd September 2017. In other words if you look at a picture of Our lady of Guadalupe, it is incredibly like the description of the Woman Clothed with the Sun mentioned in Revelations, chapter 12. 23rd September is also coincidentally the feast of Saint Padre Pio.

    Oh, the formation of the stars on the mantle of Blessed Mother of Guadalupe appears as if one was standing above the earth and stars, looking down. A mirror image so to speak. :)
     
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  8. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Julia do you by any chance have a link to that? I am not doubting you, I have heard people mention this before and I am interested in reading about it, but I have been unable to locate any article about this.
     
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  9. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    I came across this don't know if it clarify s julia's quote

    The stars on the Lady’s mantle shows that she comes from heaven. She comes as the Queen of Heaven but with the eyes of a humble and loving mother. The stars also are a sign of the supernatural character of the image. The research of Fr. Mario Rojas Sánchez and Dr. Juan Homero Hernández Illescas of Mexico (published in 1983) shows that the stars on the Lady’s mantle in the image are exactly as the stars of the winter solstice appeared before dawn on the morning of December 12, 1531.

    source...... http://www.olgaustin.org/symbolism.shtml

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  10. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    I found it in an article some time back. I will try and search by typing in things like Our Lady of Guadalupe, stars or something. Sorry I can't remember; but it is likely from Spirit Daily or even on this MOG site...some where. And I am not very good at finding things.

    I just did a google and found an article by Dan Lynch, and he mentions the star formation in the article. If you look up on the internet and find a contact for Dan Lynch, he will be able to tell you all about it, I am certain. Dan takes the Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe on visits to parishes. And there will be an email contact somewhere. Maybe one of the members on MOG will see this thread and let you know.
     
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  11. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    This is a bit different take on Mary's tilma and what the stars symbolized but close enough to be very interesting. It is taken from an article about a priest/hobbyist astronomer. ( http://www.thedivinemercy.org/library/article.php?NID=3439 )

    Looking to the Sky
    Now to the stars.

    "The Aztecs were master astronomers for the time," says Fr. Anthony. "They would understand the imagery on the tilma, which shows recognizable constellations on her clothing."

    Modern researchers say the star alignments on the tilma match exactly the night sky as it was on Dec. 12, 1531. Furthermore, Fr. Anthony points to a study by Catholic apologist Dr. Robert Sungenis, who in 2007 published a research paper called "New Discoveries of the Constellations on the Tilma of Our Lady of Guadalupe." In his research, Dr. Sungenis extended out the constellations on the tilma to include a fuller picture of the night sky on Dec. 12, 1531. By superimposing the night sky over Our Lady's image a miraculous story unfolds.

    For instance, the Corona Borealis, a small constellation in the northern sky whose Latin name means "northern crown," is located on Mary's head — a crown representing Mary as the queen. The constellation Virgo, Latin for Virgin, is located on her heart.

    Over her womb is the constellation Leo. "Leo represents the lion, and Jesus was called the 'Lion of the tribe of Judah,' in Revelation 5:5 to symbolize His victory over sin," says Fr. Anthony. "The star Regulus, meaning royalty, is Leo's brightest star and symbolizes Christ's kingship."

    The constellation Orion is located where the Aztec warrior (or St. Michael or Juan Diego) is located. Orion represents the hunter. The hunter is pointing his bow at the constellation Taurus, the bull with the two horns. "There you have a battle between the warrior, or St. Michael, and the beast," says Fr. Anthony.

    There's more.

    Dr. Sungenis planetary overlay includes 21 constellations. Seven are on Mary's left side; seven are on her right; and seven are on her dress in the middle. "So, there's three sets of seven. There's a lot of Christian symbolism to this," says Fr. Anthony. "Seven is the number of perfection and three is the number of the trinity."

    Much more numerical symbolism can be drawn from the image, but what most impresses Fr. Anthony is how Dr. Sungenis writes of how, when taken together, the 21 constellations implied in the tilma reflect imagery used in Revelation 12.

    Indeed, just to review, Revelation 12:1-2 describes how "a great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of 12 stars. She was with child." Sound familiar?

    Revelation 12 goes on to portray the power of evil, represented by a dragon, in opposition to God and His people. First the dragon pursues the pregnant woman, but her Son is saved and "caught up to God and His throne" (Rev 12:5). Then Michael and his angels cast the dragon and his angels out of heaven. After this, the dragon tries to attack the Child by attacking members of His Church. A second beast arises from the land, symbolizing the Antichrist, which leads people astray. The dragon continues to wage war against the rest of the women's offspring, "those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus" (Rev 12:17).

    Now let's consider all that in light of the image of Our Lady of Guadalupe and the research done by Dr. Sungenis.

    "In the original Greek mythology, there are good constellations and bad constellations," says Fr. Anthony. "You'll notice, the good constellations stay close to Our Lady, stay close to her heart. All the bad constellations are attacking ."

    The bad ones are the constellations Hydra, the serpent; Drago, the dragon; and Scorpios, the stringing scorpion. Hydra appears just below Virgo. "It's as if Hydra is waiting to devour the Child to whom Our Lady will give birth," notes Fr. Anthony. "And the serpent is sweeping his tail, whipping out stars. As it says in Revelation, the beast's 'tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to earth'" (Rev 12:4).

    The constellation Draco is situated directly in front of Our Lady's face. It's as if the dragon and Our Lady are confronting one another. The constellation Scorpios is situated such that its seems to be attacking her heart with its stinging tail.

    Dr. Sungenis notes other constellations in the image that represent significant aspects of the Christian Gospel:


    Ursa Major (the Great Bear) represents the work of Satan through man (Dn 7:5; Ap 13:2), while Lupus, the wolf, represents Satan's attack on the Church (Jn 10:12). Bootes, the herdsman, represents the shepherds of the Gospel (Rm 10:15), while Canes represents the shepherd's staff and his authority over the Church (1 Tm 3:1). Libra represents God's justice through the Gospel (Ps 37:28) and the Southern Cross, of course, represents the cross of Christ. Ophiuchus, the serpent-holder, represents the Virgin's strength and power from heaven to crush the devil (Gn 3:15). Lynx represents the power of spiritual vision to discern the Gospel given by the Holy Spirit (Mt 13:15-16).

    Centaurus (half man, half animal) represents the wicked on Earth (Rm 1:23), while Auriga, the goat, represents those who have been damned (Mt 25:33). The three constellations at her feet, Orion, the hunter; his dog, Canis Minor, and Taurus, the bull, represent man and the animal world on Earth that is now in a life and death struggle for salvation against the Devil (Gn 1:20-31; Rm 8:19-22; 1Pt 5:8).


    "This is all amazing," says Fr. Anthony. "It's all there! It's all on the tilma: the story of salvation!"

    Pointing to the Heavens
    Father Anthony positions his telescope to check out the pockmarked face of the moon. But, clearly, his mind remains focused on the edifying image of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

    "It blows me away when I see the symbolism and how this image wasn't just for 1531 — that it's for 2008, too," he says. "If the reason for the image was just to convert the people of Meso-America in the 1500s, then why is the image still around today? It was made of low-quality fiber that should have disintegrated hundreds of years ago. Why hasn't the image disintegrated? Why do we keep discovering all these new things about it?"

    Twinkling like votive candles, a million stars drape across the cold December night. For Fr. Anthony, they all serve as a reminder of one absolute truth: We have a Creator who, in the most generous act of Divine Mercy, gave us Mary Immaculate who calls us to conversion, who leads us to her Son, who brings us to salvation.

    "But we're under attack, constantly," says Fr. Anthony. "Our Lady of Guadalupe reminds us of that."

    He's squinting into the telescope's lens. He's pointing to the heavens.

    "Oh, there's the Corona Borealis," he says. "See the little crown? Awesome, just awesome."
     
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  12. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Hope this link works. It is one of the links I came across before and it was made available to me again thank you fellow member of MOG

    http://infallible-catholic.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/miraculous-image-of-our-lady-of.html
     
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  13. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Thank you everyone :)
    I am very interested in both Guadalupe and the coming astronomical events. I haven't had time to look through this yet but I will tonight. Thanks again :)
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    This is not apropos of the tilma, but earlier in the thread, Catholic astronomy was discussed. I have uploaded a photo of St. Mary's Church in Annapolis, MD, which was built in 1860. During a recent renovation, the stars were painted on the ceiling exactly as they were seen in the night sky on the night of the dedication of the church. This is a very holy church, a Redemptorist parish, and it has the Miraculous Icon of Our Lady of Perpetual Help. The church I sometimes attend, St. John Neumann, is a mission church of St. Mary's. It too, has devotions to OLPH. View attachment 6252
     
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  15. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Youtube is your friend. I recommend this excellent video about Guadalupe. It covers the miracle, the picture of Our Lady, and describes the patterns on Our Lady's dress and cloak and explains their significance.
     
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  16. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Thanks Dolours :)
     
  17. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Wow, thank you everyone. I had no idea that this as well tied into things. What an amazing thing to be witness to all of this.
     
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  18. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Exactly. As we can see, Our Lord´s words are coming to pass before our very eyes:

    They were unaware of what was happening until the flood came and swept all of them away. That's how it will be when the Son of Man comes.


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    Except that it´s not a physical ark now but...

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  19. More recent messages of Luz de Maria have mentioned changes in the sun effecting humans/earth.

    The sun is set to 'change form' as NASA says solar minimum is on the way
    • Sunspots are heading toward a low point expected in 2019-2020, NASA says
    • Solar minimum means certain types of activity, such as sunspots and flares, drop
    • But, it could cause coronal holes and enhance the effects of space weather

    According to NASA, solar minimum could also enhance the effects of space weather, potentially disrupting communications and navigation systems, and even causing space junk to ‘hang around.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ASA-says-solar-minimum-way.html#ixzz4lRpjULbf
     
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