Relevant to present day darkness- Malachi Martin with Art Bell

Malachi Martin's window to the Vatican. He gets it right...only his timetable is a little early.
Doesn't get more interesting. It's a shame he didn't put it in a book...it would have been a best selling. The nice thing about his take on the church and its future is that we get to hear it in his own words, unfiltered by the church. The sad thing about this is that it seems as though we are living through this apostasy.
It should have every faithful catholic on you knees and at the sacraments praying for our faith and our church.

Malachi, who actually read the Third Secret of Fatima, took an oath not to reveal it contents. He felt that as difficult of a prophesy as it was, that it was a mistake to not do as Sr. Lucy's had instructed....that it should have been revealed by 1960. Without breaking his oath, he tried to tell us what he could about this most widely discussed prophesy of our time.....
THE THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA.....

 

So... the idea that we were given the proper third secret of Fatima by the Vatican in 2000 is now blown out of the water. I had not heard this interview before. I did hear that the Akita prophecy was the same as the third secret but even Akita does not sound as terrifying as Fr. Malachi says the actual secret is.
Also, how is it that St. John Paul II who was healing people while still alive, could be so involved with ecumenism and the New World Order and one world religion? I find this a little difficult that a saint could be so fooled as fooled he must have been to be so adamant re the new order.

 

I would love to watch that video above, posted by Beth B, but the fact that it's nearly 2 1/3 hours long.....
Would there be a summary of it somewhere?

 

Ahhhhh, I know it's long. I play it on my speakers or tv while I'm doing house work. I do think that there are shorter versions....or the same video broken into shorter clips. If I find them, I'll be happy to post them here. This was such a revealing video that I have listened to it a few times.

 

This was Fr. Martin's "Big" interview where he delved deeper into the Third Secret than he ever had before. I have listened to this interview probably more than any of his others. They are all very informative on a number of things but this one is the most informative on the Third Secret. I wonder if Fr. Martin felt some pressure to say more as his life was drawing to a close. This was one of his final interviews.

The scariest thing to me is that he never revealed the "central theme" of the Third Secret which was apparently more horrifying that what was revealed. And what was revealed was that essentially the world would be totally ravaged to pieces. I can't imagine what the "central theme" that he would not speak of was. Whatever it was it would make the common person on the street run for the nearest church and beat their breast begging for forgiveness. What could do that?

 

Regarding the third secret of Fatima, at about 53:50 Art Bell reads out a version of the secret that someone sent him and asks Fr. Martin if it is accurate.

"A great plague will befall mankind. Nowhere in the world will there be order. Satan will rule the highest places, determining the way of things. He will succeed in seducing the spirits of the great scientists who invent all kinds of arms with which it will be possible to destroy a large part of humanity in a few minutes. Satan will have his power. The powerful who command the people and who will incite them to produce enormous quantities of arms. God will punish man more thoroughly than with the flood. There will come the time of all times and the end of all ends. The great and powerful will perish together with the small and weak. Even for the Church, it will be the time of its greatest trial. Cardinals will oppose Cardinals; Bishops will oppose Bishops. Satan will walk among them, and in Rome there will be changes. The Church will be darkened and the world will be shaking with terror. One great war will erupt in the second half of the twentieth century. Fire and smoke will fall from the sky. The waters of the oceans will change into steam, and the steam will rise and overflow everything. The waters of the ocean will become mist. Millions and millions of people will die from hour to hour. Whoever remains alive will envy the dead. Everywhere one turns one's glance there is going to be anguish and misery. Ruins in every country. The time draws nearer. The abyss widens without hope. The good to perish with the bad; the great with the small; the princes of the Church with the faithful; the rulers with their people. There will be death everywhere because of the errors committed by non-believers and crazy followers of Satan which will then and only then take control over the world. At the last, those who survive will at every chance newly proclaim God and His glory, and they will serve Him as when the world was not so perverted."

Fr. Martin's "measure responsed" to the above was:

"It is not the text which was given to me to read in 1960. There are elements in it which belong in the text." When asked whether the third secret is as traumatic as what was read or more so, Fr. Martin replied "More so. Much more so." He said that the central element in the third secret is awful and is not in what was read out. "Thank God".

Fr. Martin told one caller that within eight years he would have seen the worst of it. Clearly, that hasn't happened. Fr. Martin also said that the Garabandal is a brief version of the third secret.

At about 1:46 on the tape, Art Bell quoted a friend from Australia who claimed to have been told part of the secret by a friend who was a Jesuit Priest. According to this person, the priest said that the last Pope would be under the control of Satan and that Pope John fainted thinking it might be him. Fr. Martin's response was that it sounded like they were reading or had been told the text of the third secret. He said "it sounds like it, but is sufficiently vague to make one hesitate. It sounds like it.

Then Art Bell quoted a caller from Davenport, Iowa: "I was told by an old Catholic priest while I was stationed in Asia in the late '70s that in the last days nature will attack everything we have and know and that all food will be gone. Starving will be so widespread that families will eat other members of their families just to stay alive. This madness will be so widespread there will be no place that will be safe and no place to hide until all the people who do not believe in God are dead. Then life can start anew." In response, Fr. Martin said "no, that's not part of it" Then he said that the first one is and that there's a certain element in the second one which is near the truth.

A caller asked Fr. Martin whether the US is mentioned specifically in the secret. He replied that it is not mentioned specifically but that something very relevant is mentioned.

Fr. Martin was of the opinion that the death of Pope John Paul 1 was very suspicious and that he was "probably done in" because a lot of men within and outside the Vatican couldn't put up with the reforms he was going to inaugurate. He said that nobody believed Pope John Paul 1 died naturally.

Towards the end of the tape, a caller asked about Fr. Gruner revealing the third secret on lecture tours. Fr. Martin said that Fr. Gruner never revealed the actual text. He emphasised "actual text". The caller said she remembered Fr. Gruner telling them at a lecture that there would be a lot of civil unrest; that children would be disobedient to their parents; that they would be tattooing and piercing their bodies, and that children would be killing children. In response, Fr. Martin said that no, that wasn't the sensational part of the third secret as far as he remembered.

Almost at the very end of the tape, a caller asked about a prophecy from Medjugorje concerning comets. Fr. Gruner said that there were no comets mentioned in the secret.

The discussion on the third secret concluded with Fr. Martin saying that Sr. Lucia had said that the whole of the third secret is contained in Chapters 12 - 17 of the Book of Revelation. He recommended that the caller try to get a hold of the painting of Sr. Lucy's last vision in 1929 - the one of the Crucifixion with Our Lady in it.

Fr. Martin was of the opinion that Pope John Paul 11 was opposed to certain things in the NWO but that the Pope's attitude was that he couldn't stop it because it was here already and he was trying to make the best of it.

It seems that the two paragraphs in bold text above are closest to the contents of the third secret although the actual secret is far more terrifying. That said, it's important to note that Fr. Martin didn't confirm that the last Pope would be under the control of Satan. "Under the control of" doesn't necessarily translate into a willing accomplice.

Anyway, I'm probably among the minority here in believing that St. John Paul's consecration of Russia was, indeed, acceptable to Heaven - at least acceptable enough to mitigate the worst of the chastisements.

Hope the above helps. It's by way of a thank you to SgCatholic for praying for us all at the shrines in Europe.

 

Dolours, thank you sooo.... much for this! I am really grateful God Bless you.
At least I can just zoom in on the relevant parts you have so painstakingly documented, if I want to watch the video.

 

Dolours, thanks for clarifying about St. John Paul II. I have a slight hearing impairment and don't catch everything properly. I see that my above question re JPII above is answered re his attitude of "making the best of it" (NWO).
So due to Our Lady's intervention here on earth and the people who have tried to follow her messages, the worst part of the secret may have been mitigated. She has certainly obtained from God, the prolonging of the time of mercy! Hail Mary full of grace!

 

I think you are so right Pratorian. I think he wanted so badly for the truth to be revealed because he knew that folks would race back to their faith if they knew what the third secret was. Sr. Lucia wanted it revealed by 1960....and the Vatican would not abide a directive from Our Lady.
The Vatican waited until after Malachi died to release their version of the third secret....when Malachi was no longer alive to dispute it.....

 

Wow Delorous...you need to get paid for all you work and research. Thank you!

 

Thank you Beth for the video and Dolours for your input on this topic.

It is enormously scary when you just think of the worst scenario that might come if people do not repent and come back to God. I say 'might come' in the sense that I believe older people will more than likely not live to see the worst scenario as described; because it probably describes 'The Chastisement.'

I do remember reading somewhere that Conchita from Garabandal believed the Warning and Miracle would come in her lifetime, she is about 69 now same age as me. Conchita also said she believed the Chastisement would come in the lifetime of her children.
When she had grown up and understood what was going on in the world, I believe she had said that it looked like people would not respond to being converted and that most likely the Chastisement would come about in the fullness of time. I believe when she was young she believed that people could repent and change their ways. But as she grew in wisdom and awareness, her belief that we could avoid the Chastisement changed to the view that the world was not interested in repentance, making the Chastisement more likely.

I do believe that if we the older ones can breath a sigh of relief because we may not be around to suffer the Chastisement, we are none the less accountable for our efforts to stay faithful and try to follow the Heavenly advice given in the messages of Our Lady. Lets just say messages at Fatima and Akita since they are approved by the Church. In any event all the messages call us to repentance and fidelity to Holy Mother the Church. And I feel we will be held accountable when we face our God, if we fail to 'Keep Watch and Pray' on our shift. By shift I mean our individual earthly journey to our Heavenly destination. Sometimes I think how would I feel in Purgatory or with Gods grace in Heaven, if I have to see my children and grandchildren going through the horror of the Chastisement down on the earth, if I have not done what I can while still down here on earth to mitigate or lessen the worst of it for the future.

And the saddest thing of all, those who are likely to live to see the Chastisement don't believe any of what we are warned about. They just carry on enjoying themselves and living like the people did in the days of Noah, and in the days of Lot.

God help and preserve us and our descendants, and all those in our territory of souls. Merciful Jesus, I trust in Thee. Mary Queen of peace, pray for us.

I take great hope from the modern apparitions of Blessed Mother, because it seems to be that because we did not get the serious warning from Fatima. Heaven has intervened to wake us up by sending Blessed Mother to continue calling us back to God, even pleading with us in some messages.

 

If I understand correctly, once we are in heaven at least, (not sure about purgatory), we cannot be anything but happy in God's presence. It is a mystery as to whether or how we can still see our relatives once we have passed, and still be happy if so, while watching them on earth. In God's presence, we can't be anything but ecstatic! But then there are the martyrs in heaven:
The Fifth Seal: The Martyrs
9And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. 10And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge those who live on the earth” and avenge our blood? 1
They don't sound so ecstatic!

 

What is certain is we will receive for all eternity in heaven the glory from God in proportion to the glory we have given to God while on earth. Those in heaven [the Church triumphant] and those in purgatory [the Church suffering] draw great joy in watching and assisting [the Church militant] here on earth doing the Will of God.

It came to me the other day to spend this lent in deeper union with the souls in purgatory by asking them to offer their sufferings for the Church, as it enters deeper into apostasy, as I offer my sufferings/sacrifices for them.

 

Wonderful idea Fatima!

 

The terrible part of the 3rd Secret, that Part quoted by Malachi Martin is related to extra Ecclesiam nulla Salus, What is worse than the destruction of our world and of most of humanity? Only one thing, spiritual catastrophe. The widespread loss of the eternal life of souls, after 9 Years with Fatima, I will never been the same anymore, this is my own testimony to this thread, thank you.

 

Aviso, can you clarify what you mean by "after 9 years with Fatima"?

 

Dear Julia,

These are my sentiments as well. I pray I'm not alive to live through the the chastisement, but if God keeps me alive, then He has a reason. I believe that as this world continues away from God into atheism and our own church away from the truth, that Gods justice will be necessary for the correction of both. He will not allow the gates of hell to prevail against His church.

I do not live in fear or panic, but of an awareness that is necessary for my soul and of those who I need to pray for.
Trying to remain in a state of grace and trusting in Gods mercy for myself and others.....but, with full knowledge that Gods justice will meet us whether it be here or before His throne. None of us will escape judgement... wherever He chooses to exercise it. Praying for mercy....Trusting in it....for us and those we love.
Jesus, I trust in Thee+

 

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Even as I hear that we have a Sorrowful Mother, I ask, but why. I know she mourns over the loss of souls, but is She suffering in heaven too....or has she offered to for our salvation? I don't know....

 

Great Lenten offering Fatima.....

 

The seers from Garabandal tell of the night of screams....it's possible that it is related to their third secret of Fatima.

The only thing we can do folks is stay in a state of grace......frequent the sacraments, and PRAY constantly. please don't waste you time worrying....pray to St. Michael to give you peace if you are.