Charlie Johnson false prophet?

Discussion in 'Positive Critique' started by Malachi, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Fake news.
     
  2. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

    Whatever comes of it, this will not be the last of this kind of thing. Anyone who has lived in the NY area for a long time knows it. At some point something will come out that will cause him to have to step down. If it happens, I just want to make sure no one calls it a coup, a revolution or an upset of the "political system". It would absolutely not be outside the political system. The constitution says the the Vice President would become the president in this case. Mike Pence is a level headed, conservative, Christian man. No drama, no worries.
     
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  3. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Dawn, I think you are right and CJ has called it that way except not Pence. Our next pres must come from outside the political system. Sit back and watch the triple bank shot.
     
  4. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    CNN say that their report was compiled by Carl Bernstein. Bernstein's reaction to the election results destroyed any claim he had to being an impartial journalist. CNN have been turning themselves inside out all day trying to portray themselves as a trustworthy news source when in reality they are nothing but the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.

    It turns out that the FBI (or whichever US agency is responsible for these things) presented some kind of report to Trump (a report not compiled by them) supposedly from a form MI6 British agent, alleging that his Russian sources told him that Russia had been gathering compromising information about Trump. CNN, in their attempt to exonerate themselves for indulging in gutter journalism, are now saying that it's all Buzzfeeds fault. Even the New York Times, which is far from being impartial where Trump is concerned, refused to run the story because it couldn't be verified.

    A serious journalist would ask whether the former British agent is the same person that the Democrats employed to investigate their computer hacking fiasco.

    The same establishment (Republican and Democrat) that didn't want Trump elected is now trying to derail his presidency when he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. Evidently, they believe they will be better able to manipulate Pence. So much for respecting their own Constitution and democratic process.
     
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  5. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/...ackage-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
     
  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    This is a coup attempt by the War Party in the United States. The War Party consists of Democrats (the perpetual war party) and Republican Neo-Cons. This is why the Bushes supported Clinton. It is why McCain opposes Trump. A renewed Cold War would make inconceivable amounts of money for certain people. This is the 'military-industrial-complex that President Eisenhower warned of six decades ago.

    The despicable document that is causing the latest controversy is so ungenuine that even the New York Times has dismissed it. Only a person of very limited intelligence or of bad faith could choose to believe a document that is so lacking in credibility that it is hard to believe that the CIA, for all their history of lies, dirty tricks and propaganda would be associated with it.

    The more this goes on, the more the question is begged, just why the incredible resistance to Trump? Personally, he only rises in my estimation. If people this evil hate him this much, it can only be to his credit.

    My fear would be that these warmongers, the Culture of Death personified, might resort to more drastic measures, as their latest bungling backfires.
     
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  7. djmoforegon

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  8. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    Hi Dolours and DeGaulle! I liked both your posts because they are funny :)
     
  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    If that's meant as a counter, it isn't very effective.
     
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  10. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Not at all funny. A war between two powerful countries is a very serious matter. And that's what this gutter press type of reporting is leading to. That dossier was presented as an appendix to an official report for no other reason that to lend it an appearance of credibility, and giving the mainstream media an excuse to report it. CNN spun that story last night as though it were factual, merely needing a rubber stamp to verify it.


    For whatever reason (most likely money and global power) some very influential people in the US want a war with Russia. They have been demonising Putin for years. So what if he's not squeaky clean. He's no dirtier than Obama or Clinton. For that matter, he's no dirtier than war mongering McCain. So what if the Russians hacked the DNC computers and released the information to the American public. Thanks to the Russians, the American voters finally got the truth about Clinton and her gang. The Russian hackers used nefarious means to expose what the American journalists wouldn't investigate because they were too busy operating as Clinton's personal publicity department in a seamless transition from playing the same role for Obama.

    If the likes of McCain and Obama are so anxious to export democracy, why don't they relocate all the Syrian, Libyan, Iraqi and Afghan refugees to Arizona and DC? McCain would soon find himself out of office if his voters in Arizona had to deal with the results of his warmongering. And all those Democratic and Republican lawmakers might spend a little more time vetting the customers for their weapons exports.

    Putin is surely no angel. He could well be a nasty piece of work. But he didn't arm ISIS and didn't try to persuade the world, as Kerry did, that there would be no jihadis if Muslim had better career opportunities. Everyone making Putin out to be the Antichrist should be forced to watch videos of what the US State Department were saying while ISIS were decapitating, crucifying and raping their way across Iraq, Syria and Libya. If Trump and Putin can mend US/Russian relations, it can only be an improvement on what the world has been subjected to for the past twelve or so years.

    What use is freedom of the press if journalists act as propagandists for vested interests?
     
  11. picadillo

    picadillo Guest


    I wonder if the servant of servants will come out and deplore this "fake news"?
     
  12. Dawn2

    Dawn2 Archangels

    Well, it is funny because no one said the allegations are true. I don't know that, no one does. The concern on this thread was what Charlie would consider an abandonment of the normal political process. My only point was that should Trump find the need to step down at some point that would not qualify, because the constitution lays out what happens next. If you actually are interested in my opinion, I think at some point he may have to step down but I don't think it will be this soon. I also find humorous that the answer to everything that even slightly questions Trump is that it is a neocon conspiracy by new world order demons. Who is a new world order demon? Well, of course it is anyone who has ever been elected to office in the Americas or Europe, obviously, except Trump. Now that he has been elected though, shouldn't he count as a NWO demon too? Or does he have to wait for some proscribed amount of time?
     
  13. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Are you saying that the NWO is some kind of conspiracy theory?

    Why do you think he may have to step down? Surely not on the basis of a fake dossier supplied by an agent of the Never Trump campaign? As a Catholic, aren't you willing to give the man the benefit of the doubt.

    This isn't about "slightly questioning" Trump. It is a scurrilous attempt to besmirch a man's reputation to at the very least undermine his presidency if they fail to stop his inauguration. That members of his nominating Party have had any part in it or are lending any credence to it is a disgrace. That a security agency bound to uphold the Constitution under which he was elected would give oxygen to the rumours emanating from it is extremely dangerous.

    Putin ordering the hacking of the DNC computers doesn't indicate that he has any love for Trump or that he had any contact with Trump's campaign. The Democrats brought that on themselves when they tried to undermine Putin in Russia by supporting everyone and anyone who opposed him, from Russia's lavender mafia to that disgusting girl band whose claim to fame was stripping naked in churches. It's simply a case of what goes around comes around.

    The real shame of all this is that the ruling party in the world's most technologically advanced country couldn't protect their own files because one of their supposedly superior intellectuals used p@ssword for his password and he or some other of America's "brightest and best" clicked on a dodgy email. Hillary Clinton demonstrated that she didn't trust the nation's security services when she installed a server in her home and had an outside agency maintain it. And these were the people about to be entrusted with the nuclear codes? America dodged a bullet there thanks to Putin, yet there were and are senior people in the Republican Party who would rather her than Trump as their President. Doesn't that strike you as even a teeny weeny bit odd?
     
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  14. Dawn2

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    Oh, right, you reminded me, only 2 elected officials in the Americas and Europe are not NWO neocon demons, Trump and Putin. Of course. Thank you, now I can sleep.
     
  15. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    For what it is worth, Newt Ginrich (converted catholic) says he knows Trump is not a mason.
     
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  16. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    You can't explain why people in one political party would spend millions trying to block their own candidate in favour of the opposing party's candidate, so you resort to silly comments about demons. Had they favoured anyone but Hillary Clinton, you might have grounds for scoffing at those who find it suspicious, but Hillary Clinton? Hillary Clinton of all people! A woman who lied to the relatives over the coffins of the Benghazi victims. It made me sick to the stomach and I'm not even American.
     
  17. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    A humble apology and bye bye, ............. NO WAY THAT WILL HAPPEN.
    Charlie is already laying the groundwork for a return even if his prophecy fails.This is his own opinion. No mention of his spiritual directors backing of course:eek:.

    If Charlie judges he was close enough .... He will continue.
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The whole thing is starting to make me cringe. I can't imagine were Charlie is at.

    If it were me I would crawl up into a ball and die.
     
  19. little me

    little me Archangels

    Good to know.
     
  20. little me

    little me Archangels

    Charlie's "angel " said obama wouldn't finish his full term. So if obama does finish but things fall apart soon after- was his angel "close enough"? There's no interpretation needed on this one by Charlie. Good angels don't/can't lie. This is it for Charlie- in 8 days we'll know.
     

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