Climate of fear in Rome. POPE FRANCIS SACKS 3 PRIESTS FROM CDF OVER CHRISTMAS.... VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) - Italian media are reporting that Pope Francis dismissed three priests from the Congregation for the Doctrine (CDF) of the Faith over Christmas. Vaticanista Marco Tosatti reported on December 26 that the Holy Father ordered Cdl. Gerhard Müller, head of the CDF, to fire three priests, without giving any explanation. Müller held off on the firings because he wanted a private audience with the Pope to understand the reasons why, as the priests were among his top staff. According to Church Militant's working translation of Tosatti's article: [Cdl. Müller] was very perplexed, because they were good priests, and among the most professionally capable. He declined to obey, and asked the Pope for a private audience. He had to wait because the meeting was postponed several times. Finally he was received. He said, "Your Holiness, I received these letters, but I have not done anything, as these persons are among the best in the Congregation. What have they done?" The answer was: "I'm the pope, and I don't have to give reasons for any of my decisions. I've decided that they must go, and therefore they must go." He stood up, extending his hand, signaling that the meeting was over. The article explains that two of the three priests left by the end of the year, going without understanding the reasons for their departure after having worked in the CDF for many years. The third seems to have been granted an extension. According to Tosatti, one of the priests who left "freely expressed — perhaps too freely — his opinions on some of the Pope's decisions." Apparently, a close friend of the Pope was within earshot, reported the priest's words to the Pope, who then contacted the priest, issued some stern words — and now the priest is gone from the CDF. Tosatti concludes: "The clumsy attempt to send an investigative commission to look into a sovereign entity like the Order of Malta, independent of the Holy See ... and thus unable to be investigated by outside organizations, is another symptom of the autocratic atmosphere that has pervaded the Vatican."... http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/pope-francis-sacks-3-priests-from-cdf-over-christmas
My God is different from the god speaking throught people here. My God is never silent in matters of past and present.
I can only quote CIC http://www.intratext.com/IXT/LAT0813/_P3F.HTM My opinions are in accordance with Catholic Doctrine. You and your friend can obey fools full of Satan and proud, and god ouf adultery already wait for you in his kingdom. I come from kingdom of light and invite you both into heaven. Hey people, you publicly spread Satan's thoughts on catholic forum. You are absolutely ignorant of CIC, but absolutely possesed by Satanic opinions. Your god is Satan. Read canon 1075.2. The woman can never become a wife of second partner! Even if they have in house whole kindergarten of illegitimate children.
Ah, with the New Year the Francis critics will be re-invigorated in their work to undermine him! And now Michael Voris just copies the stuff from lifesitenews and onepeter5 and his previous 'I support the Pope' stance has gone for good (as I predicted last year). And to suggest that all this rebellion is from the devil is considered a 'tactic', God forbid! I am totally amazed at how quickly and easily people turn against the Pope and yet EXACTLY the same thing happened to Jesus. The only unknown is whether any of this will take hold in the Catholic community as a whole. With regard to the 3 priests removed from the CDF, neither I nor anyone on the forum has any detailed information on the reasons for the Pope's action but knowing some of the behaviour of some members of the CDF over the years, I am not at all surprised by the news.
A well known critic of Pope Francis. The website that published the video is https://thewildvoice.org/ which promotes the MariaDvineMercy messages.
When the woman was caught comitting adultery, Jesus didnt address her to begin with, he addressed the arrogant and pride filled who were not interested in mercy and compassion. He, the Lord, as the perfect law giver was the only person in the scene who had the right as a non sinner to carry out the punishment of Moses. What is significant in the story is that he didnt ask the woman if she was sorry . He told her I dont condemn you. Yes, he said go and sin no more, but he wasnt interested in fulfilling the "justice" as retribution. He proved in that scene that mercy -the -original plan of God- to bring true liberation was greater than ensuring the law of Moses was carried out. If Pope Francis had been in Jesus' place in that scene, many here would be saying he is condoning adultery because he let her off without her showing any repenance (as far as we know). Let me clarify once more, the Lord did say go and sin no more and that is essential for any conversion, but why did the Lord not ask her first: are you sorry?
Praetorian, LV must have recieved this important information in prayer! otherwise, how do you explain how he got hold of Gods calculater?
I live in God's love and mercy I pray for guidance everyday and so far God has not asked me to be hateful and delight in condemning my friend but rather be there to pray with her on her journey. You believe in a vengeful God that sends most people running for the hills. Today I will pray for you and that you realise just how merciful God, Jesus Christ and Our Blessed Mother are. May those who have never sinned throw the first stone. No matter what you say God is our judge read his acts of mercy I think that would be much more fulfilling for you.
I can only repeat what I said. My God is not your god. I look forward to death for meeting with my God, you fear your god.
God is mercy to sinners yearning for him but severe to people who want to commit adultery seeking support from Church. I quoted CIC and your friend can never become wife of her current partner. When her children will be adult, she has to leave her partner. I said God's Will and the Way of her salvation. She can choose: her partner or her God. Hell or Heaven.
And I am confident the right choices will be made as God is guiding her, as she has not returned to God through Satan it is God who has called her. In your previous comments you said we fear our God but it you that comes across with the most fear of God and attack the way you do because of your fear. God wants us to love him not dread him.
My only fear is about your salvation, because my God can everything except one thing: to dwell in a soul of adulterer.
Your God uses a calculator, with appartenly no consideration of a persons heart! My God, 'Jesus Christ' who trully rose from the dead, said from His cross of death-----------forgive them Father for they know not what they do! However, I think you, Little Voice, know exactly what you do!
This is worth reading in the context of the current discussion on divorce and remarriage: https://www.ewtn.co.uk/news/latest/unrealistic-unmerciful-a-longer-response-to-austen-ivereigh Excerpt: Austen Ivereigh’s latest Crux article, asks for a response to a concrete situation. Taking the example in his article and making some reasonable assumptions, we are left with the following: A Catholic man and a woman are married in the Church. The marriage has no impediment and is consummated. Accordingly, the marriage is valid and cannot be dissolved by any power. Only the death of one spouse can do that. Subsequently, children are conceived and born to the couple. The husband is then abusive (it is unclear if physically or in some other way). The husband then leaves and contracts a civil marriage. The wife then contracts a civil marriage to provide for her children, and engages in an on-going sexual relationship. Subsequently, the wife wishes to be admitted to the sacraments of Reconciliation and to Holy Communion. If I understand correctly, Ivereigh proposes that this may be possible, conditional upon the wife engaging in an approved discernment process by a pastor, but without giving up the sexual nature of the new relationship. This sounds pastoral and merciful. Sadly, it is not. At the heart of this proposal is a refusal to face reality. It does not look at the specific case. It does not address the consequences that flow from the proposal. Instead, it repeats a mantra rather dealing with the situation. To be clear: it makes the situation of the wife worse, the situation of the husband worse, the situation of their new partners worse, the situation of the children worse. It has serious societal and religious consequences. It is as if the doctor, who was alluded to in the introduction above, refused to treat us, and simply let our sickness overtake us.....
God is not an idea! God is not a good thought that you, little voice had one day! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- God is truth! God sees all and He knows all! In fact the double edge sword of the Holy Spirit cuts so finely that it seperates the soul from the spirit! He is infinately greater than your, my or any other persons expectations! All bend their knee and lower their heads, in His presence! God is glorious and His being is omnipotent and transcendent! Remember all this before you pronounce judgement on another!
Repentance is most sincerely expressed by abstaining from sin. Verbal expressions are mere words without a sincere and realistic attempt to abstain. Our Lord would have spoken with such a commanding Authority to this woman that she sin no more that her words would have been completely superfluous and it is debatable that, in her awe, she may not even have had the wherewithal to utter them.
It is to deem that the appropriate response to adultery is counter-adultery. A reversion to 'an eye for an eye'. In order to support the children, the civil law should, if necessary, take the shirt off the back of the primary adulterer. This is the law that needs adjustment. Ivereigh's proposal will lead to more adultery. Perhaps the abandoned wife will hook up with another married man?
Yes, but the point is Jesus didnt wait for any sign of repentance as far as we are told. My point is that he anticipated it by not throwing the stones of death at her. His attitude was, while she lives she has a chance to change. If she dies now its over (if she was in actual mortal sin)
