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  1. And such persons, as described, will NOT be "reluctant" types when showing great signs, or NOT caring or wishing for such fruits t0 be advertised! They'll want it seen and declared from the roof tops!
     
  2. BrianK

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    This is the photo op pope, always wearing his "humility" on his sleeve.

    False Humility
    [​IMG]It is often said that true humility consists in depicting oneself sincerely; but true humility, in the Catholic sense, is much more than that. It consists in taking and tending to the place where God has willed one to be. As a baptized Christian, a Catholic is obliged by true humility to unswerving faith, hope and charity for God above and beyond all else, and to love his neighbor as himself. False humility, however, puts on the display of self-effacement, but in fact refuses to remain in the place which God has willed for it.

    Take for example the teaching of the Apostle St Paul in 1 Cor. 11:26-27. Therein, the Apostle of the Nations condemns those who approach to receive the Most Blessed Sacrament of the Altar without first examining themselves as to whether they are in the state of mortal sin or not: those who are, are not to receive because otherwise they commit another mortal sin, the one most horribly punished, that of sacrilege.

    Now, a humble man who is Catholic accepts this teaching of St. Paul as well as all the others, especially that on true fraternal Charity, which was the subject of the Pope’s Discourse to the Cardinals this morning, which at the beginning, includes these words of the Pope:

    All of us, myself first and each of you with me, would do well to let ourselves be guided by the inspired words of the apostle Paul, especially in the passage where he lists the marks of charity.

    But it is the epitome of false humility, to cite the discourse of St. Paul on Charity, and work all the time to undermine the continued teaching and practice of refusing communion to adulterers and public sinners, as the Church has ever done for the last 2000 years, faithful as She is to this teaching of St. Paul.

    That the pope is working to overturn this teaching of St. Paul has been loudly decried and openly manifested in the recent Extraordinary Synod for the Family, the secretary appointed to which, Cardinal Badlisseri, himself has confirmed that the Pope was behind every scandalous moment and document which it issued. He even directed the Cardinal in the minutiae of the actions which the Cardinal made during the Synod, sending him, as is reported, frequent notes about what to do.

    That’s false humility of a most outrageous kind, the heretical one.

     
  3. Richard67

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    I think the blood of Saint Januarius only partially liquefied. Maybe he was only half-sure about Francis.
     
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    I knew a priest one time, a monk who had a great reputation for being a saint. In fact the guy was a child molester and his misdeeds had been covered up both by the police and the monastic authorities. Anyway a couple came to him who wanted to have children, the Doctors had said it was impossible this would ever happen. The woman conceived shortly after the child molester/priest gave his blessing.

    I believe God rewarded the great Faith of the couple, not the supposed holiness of the child molester.
     
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    Yes its true , none of us have all the answers. I doubt if any of us even have all the questions. :)

    When I was younger I had the the answer to everything. Now I find I am no longer sure even of the right questions to ask. Part of this is getting older, but part, I think is of the terrible times we live in.,
     
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    Do you, or do you not now believe in the messages of ZARO Padraig? You certainly had glowing remarks about believing in them a few weeks ago when I read the entire thread again. Our Lady had many things to say about her Pope Francis. Is she now a false prophet? Seems to me she was up on all the things happening now and was spot on. Never did she use the words, "False pope, non-valid pope, Antichrist, etc."
     
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  7. davidtlig

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    As the forum seems to have reverted to its focus on criticising the Holy Father, let me quote the actual text of the Pope's discourse from which the article Brian has quoted (from yet another traditionalist anti Pope Francis website). The Pope was speaking at the consistory for the creation of new Cardinals in February 2015:

    The cardinalate is certainly an honour, but it is not honorific. This we already know from its name – “cardinal” – from the word “cardo”, a hinge. As such it is not a kind of accessory, a decoration, like an honorary title. Rather, it is a pivot, a point of support and movement essential for the life of the community. You are “hinges” and are “incardinated” in the Church of Rome, which “presides over the entire assembly of charity” (Lumen Gentium, 13; cf. IGN. ANT., Ad Rom., Prologue).

    In the Church, all “presiding” flows from charity, must be exercised in charity, and is ordered towards charity. Here too the Church of Rome exercises an exemplary role. Just as she presides in charity, so too each particular Church is called, within its own sphere, to preside in charity.

    For this reason, I believe that the “hymn to charity” in Saint Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians can be taken as a guiding theme for this celebration and for your ministry, especially for those of you who today enter the College of Cardinals. All of us, myself first and each of you with me, would do well to let ourselves be guided by the inspired words of the apostle Paul, especially in the passage where he lists the marks of charity. May our Mother Mary help us to listen. She gave the world Jesus, charity incarnate, who is “the more excellent Way” (cf. 1 Cor 12:31); may she help us to receive this Word and always to advance on this Way. May she assist us by her humility and maternal tenderness, because charity, as God’s gift, grows wherever humility and tenderness are found.

    Saint Paul tells us that charity is, above all, “patient” and “kind”. The greater our responsibility in serving the Church, the more our hearts must expand according to the measure of the heart of Christ. “Patience” – “forbearance” – is in some sense synonymous with catholicity. It means being able to love without limits, but also to be faithful in particular situations and with practical gestures. It means loving what is great without neglecting what is small; loving the little things within the horizon of the great things, since “non coerceri a maximo, contineri tamen a minimo divinum est”. To know how to love through acts of kindness. “Kindness” – benevolence –means the firm and persevering intention to always will the good of others, even those unfriendly to us.

    The Apostle goes on to say that charity “is not jealous or boastful, it is not puffed up with pride”. This is surely a miracle of love, since we humans – all of us, at every stage of our lives – are inclined to jealousy and pride, since our nature is wounded by sin. Nor are Church dignitaries immune from this temptation. But for this very reason, dear brothers, the divine power of love, which transforms hearts, can be all the more evident in us, so that it is no longer you who live, but rather Christ who lives in you. And Jesus is love to the fullest.

    Saint Paul then tells us that charity “is not arrogant or rude, it does not insist on its own way”. These two characteristics show that those who abide in charity are not self-centred. The self-centred inevitably become disrespectful; very often they do not even notice this, since “respect” is precisely the ability to acknowledge others, to acknowledge their dignity, their condition, their needs. The self-centred person inevitably seeks his own interests; he thinks this is normal, even necessary. Those “interests” can even be cloaked in noble appearances, but underlying them all is always “self-interest”. Charity, however, makes us draw back from the centre in order to set ourselves in the real centre, which is Christ alone. Then, and only then, can we be persons who are respectful and attentive to the good of others.

    Charity, Saint Paul says, “is not irritable, it is not resentful”. Pastors close to their people have plenty of opportunities to be irritable, to feel anger. Perhaps we risk being all the more irritable in relationships with our confreres, since in effect we have less excuses. Even here, charity, and charity alone, frees us. It frees us from the risk of reacting impulsively, of saying or doing the wrong thing; above all it frees us from the mortal danger of pent-up anger, of that smouldering anger which makes us brood over wrongs we have received. No. This is unacceptable in a man of the Church. Even if a momentary outburst is forgivable, this is not the case with rancour. God save us from that!

    Charity – Saint Paul adds – “does not rejoice at the wrong, but rejoices in the right”. Those called to the service of governance in the Church need to have a strong sense of justice, so that any form of injustice becomes unacceptable, even those which might bring gain to himself or to the Church. At the same time, he must “rejoice in the right”. What a beautiful phrase! The man of God is someone captivated by truth, one who encounters it fully in the word and flesh of Jesus Christ, the inexhaustible source of our joy. May the people of God always see in us a firm condemnation of injustice and joyful service to the truth.

    Finally, “love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things”. Here, in four words, is a spiritual and pastoral programme of life. The love of Christ, poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, enables us to live like this, to be like this: as persons always ready to forgive; always ready to trust, because we are full of faith in God; always ready to inspire hope, because we ourselves are full of hope in God; persons ready to bear patiently every situation and each of our brothers and sisters, in union with Christ, who bore with love the burden of our sins.

    Dear brothers, this comes to us not from ourselves, but from God. God is love and he accomplishes all this in us if only we prove docile to the working of his Holy Spirit. This, then, is how we are to be: “incardinated” and docile. The more we are “incardinated” in the Church of Rome, the more we should become docile to the Spirit, so that charity can give form and meaning to all that we are and all that we do. Incardinated in the Church which presides in charity, docile to the Holy Spirit who pours into our hearts the love of God (cf. Rom 5:5). Amen.

     
  8. padraig

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    There used to be a book called , 'Catch 22'. It concerned the USAF during the Second World War. Catch 22 was this. Anyone who was insane would be at once released from military service. However anyone who declared themselves insane could not be insane , since of they knew themselves to be insane they could only be sane to do so.:)

    Marian Apparitions are I think a little like this. If they were to utter objections to what is happening in the Church the Church would at once bury them or declare them false, as they did for instance with the Third Secret of Fatima or the apparitions to Bruno at Tre Fontane . If on the other hand they do not point to the terrible things that are happening in the Church we condemn them as the dog that did not bark.

    Catch 22.

    Marian messages are there to guide us not to rule us. There was a famous appariton to St Catherine of Sienna, a Doctor of the Church, in which Our Lady firmly declared that she was NOT the Immaculate Conception. This was used for centuries as a major objection to the proclamation of the Marian Dogma.

    They are there as guides not for direction.

    'The young nun heard a voice: “This punishment is for the twentieth century.” Then she saw three swords hanging over Our Lord’s head, each with an inscription. On the first was written, “I shall punish heresy”; on the second, “I shall punish blasphemy”; and on the third, “I shall punish impurity.”

    Then the Blessed Virgin addressed the young nun: “My daughter, do you wish to sacrifice yourself for these people?”

    “I am ready,” responded the nun. At that, the three swords plunged into the nun’s heart, and she fell dead by the violence of the pain.'

    Our Lady’s Prophecies About the Twentieth Century
    The Pope’s “infallibility will be declared a dogma of Faith by the same Pope chosen to proclaim the dogma of the mystery of my Immaculate Conception. He will be persecuted and imprisoned in the Vatican through the usurpation of the Pontifical States and through the malice, envy, and avarice of an earthly monarch.”

    “Unbridled passions will give way to a total corruption of customs because Satan will reign through the Masonic sects, targeting the children in particular to insure general corruption.

    Unhappy, the children of those times! Seldom will they receive the sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation. As for the sacrament of Penance, they will confess only while attending Catholic schools, which the devil will do his utmost to destroy by means of persons in authority.

    “The same will occur with Holy Communion. Oh, how it hurts me to tell you that there will be many and enormous public and hidden sacrileges!

    “In those times, the sacrament of Extreme Unction will be largely ignored.… Many will die without receiving it, being thereby deprived of innumerable graces, consolation, and strength in the great leap from time to eternity.

    “The sacrament of Matrimony, which symbolizes the union of Christ with the Church, will be thoroughly attacked and profaned. Masonry, then reigning, will implement iniquitous laws aimed at extinguishing this sacrament. They will make it easy for all to live in sin, thus multiplying the birth of illegitimate children without the Church’s blessing…

    “Secular education will contribute to a scarcity of priestly and religious vocations."

    “The holy sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed, and despised, for in this both the Church and God Himself are oppressed and reviled, since He is represented by His priests.

    The devil will work to persecute the ministers of the Lord in every way, working with baneful cunning to destroy the spirit of their vocation and corrupting many. Those who will thus scandalize the Christian flock will bring upon all priests the hatred of bad Christians and the enemies of the One, Holy, Roman Catholic, and Apostolic Church. This apparent triumph of Satan will cause enormous suffering to the good pastors of the Church...and to the Supreme Pastor and Vicar of Christ on earth who, a prisoner in the Vatican, will shed secret and bitter tears in the presence of God Our Lord, asking for light, sanctity, and perfection for all the clergy of the world, to whom he is King and Father.”

    “Unhappy times will come wherein those who should fearlessly defend the rights of the Church will instead, blinded despite the light, give their hand to the Church’s enemies and do their bidding. But when [evil] seems triumphant and when authority abuses its power, committing all manner of injustice and oppressing the weak, their ruin shall be near. They will fall and crash to the ground.

    “Then will the Church, joyful and triumphant like a young girl, reawaken and be comfortably cradled in the arms of my most dear and elect son of those times. If he lends an ear to the inspirations of grace – one of which will be the reading of these great mercies that my Son and I have had toward you – we shall fill him with graces and very special gifts and will make him great on earth and much greater in Heaven. There we have reserved a precious seat for him because, heedless of men, he will have fought for truth and ceaselessly defended the rights of the Church, deserving to be called ‘martyr.’”

    “At the end of the nineteenth century and throughout a great part of the twentieth, many heresies will be propagated in these lands.…

    “The small number of souls who will secretly safeguard the treasure of Faith and virtues will suffer a cruel, unspeakable, and long martyrdom. Many will descend to their graves through the violence of suffering and will be counted among the martyrs who sacrificed themselves for the country and the Church.

    “To be delivered from the slavery of these heresies, those whom the merciful love of my Son has destined for this restoration will need great will-power, perseverance, courage, and confidence in God. To try the faith and trust of these just ones, there will be times when all will seem lost and paralyzed. It will then be the happy beginning of the complete restoration….

    “In those times the atmosphere will be saturated with the spirit of impurity which, like a filthy sea, will engulf the streets and public places with incredible license…Innocence will scarcely be found in children, or modesty in women.

    “He who should speak seasonably will remain silent.

    “There shall be scarcely any virgin souls in the world. The delicate flower of virginity will seek refuge in the cloisters.…Without virginity, fire from heaven will be needed to purify these lands.…

    “Sects, having permeated all social classes, will find ways of introducing themselves into the very heart of homes to corrupt the innocence of children. The children’s hearts will be dainty morsels to regale the devil.…

    “Religious communities will remain to sustain the Church and work with courage for the salvation of souls.… The secular clergy will fall far short of what is expected of them because they will not pursue their sacred duty. Losing the divine compass, they will stray from the way of priestly ministry mapped out for them by God and will become devoted to money, seeking it too earnestly.

    “Pray constantly, implore tirelessly, and weep bitter tears in the seclusion of your heart, beseeching the Eucharistic Heart of my most holy Son to take pity on His ministers and to end as soon as possible these unhappy times by sending to His Church the Prelate who shall restore the spirit of her priests”




    http://www.tfp.org/tfp-home/about-our-lady/a-victim-for-the-twentieth-century.html

     
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  9. davidtlig

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    You may have missed the follow up, Richard:

    The Pope had taken the vial with the blood of St. Gennaro - displayed on the altar - in his hands and kissed it. Cardinal Sepe said over the microphone: “It is the sign that St. Gennaro loves Pope Francis: half of the blood turned to liquid.” The pronouncement was followed by a long applause from faithful. The Pope then replied: “If only half of it liquefied that means we still have work to do; we have to do better. We have only half of the saint’s love.” But the blood continued to liquefy until the whole relic had turned to liquid, with many faithful crying out as they witnessed this.​


    http://www.lastampa.it/2015/03/21/v...s-presence-RwgmeN7TxifcMiKu4UcOUO/pagina.html
     
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    When the most evil priest who ever lived held the Sacred Bread in his hands and pronounced the Words of Consecration the Bread became the Sacred Body of Christ this, because God Willed it, not because of the Holiness of the priest.
     
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    The , 'Concession demanded from the Clergy', Blessed Catherine speaks of here is, I believe the concession to public adulterers placed forward by Bergoglio to allow them to make sacriligeous communions. That is to make communion in a state of mortal sin.

    ..the 'People splitting into two camps', is the schism which Bergorglio has just inaugurated.

    The , 'Old priest crying bitterly', she mentions is, in fact, Pope Benedict.

     
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  12. smudger

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    I would still like an answer to the question I posed yesterday: Are all those in irrelgular second unions in a state of mortal sin? Yes or No?
     
  13. davidtlig

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    Thank you, 'smudger' (that's quite a name!), for your posts over the last 2 or 3 days. Please continue to defend the Pope. He is under wide attack on the internet and often those who love him get tired of reading and responding to those attacks. Pope Francis often asks for our prayers but that doesn't preclude helping him by responding to those who try to undermine him either through misunderstanding or for more malevolent reasons.
     
  14. smudger

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    You know David,
    I have had a suspicion for a while that pope Francis is the pope the children of Fatima saw having insults and if I remember correctly, rocks thrown at him.
     
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    If they have been in a sacramentally valid first union Jesus Christ teaches that he who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery.

    There is no way to get around the fact that a valid sacramental marriage is a permanent union in God's eyes.
     
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    Are you Joe Crozier in disguise again?

    If not you must be his twin.
     
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  17. smudger

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    No, sorry you didnt answer what I asked. Mortal sin?
     
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    Just calk him Joe for short;)
     
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    Yes adultery is a mortal sin.
     
  20. smudger

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    No I am not Joe. God is my witness to that
     

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