ANTONIO YAGüE ALERT: Warning Astro Visualized - CONFIRMED

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  1. djmoforegon

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    Thank you, Carol.

    This is a little confusing to me. Is he saying that the new timing for the Warning is from January 10th to the second half of March?

    Also, I was reminded of the famed Chilean astronomer, Carlos Muñoz Ferrada. With all of the recent earthquake activity, it reminded me of his prediction of three locations to watch for strong magnitude, deep quakes. He said it would form a large triangle of devastation. Those three locations are: Chile/Argentina; Indonesia; and France/Spain/Italy.
     
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  2. Unless I misunderstood what AY wrote here he still holds to the projected Apr. 13 2017 for the Miracle. I found that to be a little odd since he knows well Garbandal and what it allegedly demands....that the Miracle follows the Warning and the Warning is to happen during an even numbered year. So unless he still expects the Warning to yet occur this year I would think that his Miracle date is also at least "postponed" as well. But perhaps once this year completes itself his projections into future years may have to rework his various hypotheses.
     
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    Thank you for posting that AY had an update, I think we should keep abreast of what he is reporting.
     
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    Because he's proven to be accurate??? I thought he was going to give up on dates because he missed 11/20 so bad?
     
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    You need to read my post in which he answers your questions. If you want to move on that's understandable. I am keeping one eye open for any of these (his & other's) predictions that may come up because I feel that we are close now and maybe someone will be right.
     
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    I think he still makes an important contribution. Where many make mistakes is applying a date to an event, yet we all try to figure out the timing so we are not completely caught off guard. That mistake has left me with egg on my face several times throughout the years. But until an event occurs, I am going to be vigilant and watchful.
     
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  7. Woman Clothed WithThe Sun

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    Many thanks for your translation, Carol55. I'm copying it here and adding the pictures that accompany the original article:

    [Carol55] I translated the text which AY posted but I gave up on trying to get the visuals :
    During the past month of November the expected Notice or Sixth Seal of Revelation, as predicted by the prophetic hypothesis supported by temporal signs of Sacred Astronomy, has not occurred. Neither did events occur that frame the Notice in Sacred Scripture and in private revelations such as wars, revolutions and an economic crisis. Some people ask me if this invalidates the interpretation that proposes this hypothesis, while others have abandoned their results as a guide for the monitoring of the times. The reality is that the principles of the hypothesis can not be judged invalid until the expected date of the Miracle is reached in April, and then the fact or sign of the Woman of the Apocalypse (Revelation 12: 1) .

    For the moment, 4 months from the possible future date of Miracle, it is enough to analyze reasons why events have not happened so far predicted and ask if they are still possible to happen in a next time environment. On the set of framework facts and preparation of the Notice, it is possible that they have been delayed and / or diminished in intensity by the conversions that the year of the Mercy has brought. However, as major attacks on the Law of God continue throughout the world, there remains the question of whether the Warning will occur in the coming months, even if there were wars and revolutions of lesser effect than anticipated.

    The foundation of the date for the Sixth Seal in last November were the orientations of the Virgin in Garabandal by which the Notice will occur in the twelve months prior to the Miracle. From this, the interpretation that reduced that period to 5 months arises from a sting that locusts produce to the men without killing them in the fifth trumpet of the Apocalypse (Ap 9, 5 and 10). The non-deadly torment it produced seemed to me to fit as a symbol of the internal struggles that will produce in each man the inner illumination of the Warning to obtain its conversion and that could last until the Miracle. Therefore, the date of last November for the Notice was not based on any specific prophetic data but on a personal interpretation. Therefore, no prophecy has failed, but only my association of the apocalyptic text trying to specify more the twelve months of the term indicated by the Virgin in Garabandal.

    While the course of the calendar has revealed the interpretive error, it has also shown the appearance of a star not cataloged in the vicinity of the Sun, whose material and orbital characteristics have challenged astronomical science. On the one hand, it has been undetectable for the usual systems of observation of the Sun, whether in orbit or on the surface of the Earth. The explanation of this aspect I have made in the following videos published on my Youtube channel
    ◾ Update on the Notice: Astro Observations and Illumination of Consciousness,
    ◾Upgent update on the Warning: astro, impending development and prophetic dreams,
    Is the Astro coming? Update on the Notice (November 20, 2016)


    On the other hand, only professional photographer Carlos Calzada obtained a multitemporal series of images of the star and his approach to the Sun when he used a 950 nm infrared filter. The analysis of the orbit of the star fitted with what was planned until November 16, 2016. From then on, the star appeared to stop at a position in front of the Sun that remains today, a month later. The photographs of Carlos Calzada from then on are diffraction figures of the solar light that vary little between them and that apparently do not have an explanation from the point of view of the orbital dynamics of a star. It seems as if an unknown force had stopped him inside the solar halo, so that he does not allow to leave it to leave the opposite side to the one that entered.

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    To explain this apparent astronomical anomaly it is worth remembering what happened on November 28, 2013 with the passage of the comet ISON by the vicinity of the Sun. Because of the characteristics of the comet was expected to be an astronomical and scientific show. However, what happened was very different than expected. The approach to the Sun altered the orbit and destroyed part of the head of the comet. The figure shows the predicted orbit (in red) and the real one (in yellow) after approaching the Sun and how the comet varied in its tail and visible aspects.
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    Analogous to the case of comet ISON, the star detected in the photos of Carlos Calzada seems to have suffered an alteration of its orbit when passing through the proximity of the Sun, probably due to the result of the interaction of magnetic forces proper to the Sun and the star. The velocity has diminished notably on the one that showed in the previous days when approaching the Sun, perhaps by the force of magnetic repulsion. This has brought to the Sun the orbit of that encounter between the star and the Sun, in a compound form that is shown in the figure. According to the new orbital trace, purely empirical from the observations of Calzada, the speed of the star increases again as it moves away from the force of repulsion that stopped it in the vicinity of the Sun.

    The following figure shows an interpretative scheme from the ecliptic plane of the images of Calzada in the approach of the star to the Sun until November 16, 2016.

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    The orbit of distance from the sun to the sun, approaches the orbit of our planet, as initially planned, but more slowly than the initial and following an unexpected path, with two particular properties.
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    Viewed from Earth, as indicated by the adjacent figure, the new orbit maintains the position of the star and its debris envelope, within the solar halo due to the relative relative movement of the Earth within its orbit in front of that of the star. If the star continues to move on this new trace, the progressive approach to Earth will only be noticeable from our planet by a slight increase in its apparent size, which when it equals the size of the Sun will produce the total eclipse predicted in the Warning. Until then, the observation of the star will continue to be noticed through diffraction figures of light, similar to those obtained in the last 30 days.

    The last image shows a lateral scheme of the approach between the star and the Earth by the new orbit, which schematically explains the successive positions of the star that produce diffraction of the light of the Sun in the direction of the Earth, until it reaches the occultation of the Sun itself Of a total eclipse.
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    Finally, as the first figure of the article shows, the possible traces of the new orbit of the star can now converge in a new meeting point with the Earth's orbit from the first ten of the month of January until the last half of March. The expected effects for the natural phenomenon of the Notice of major earthquakes and overturning of the geographic poles could therefore occur within this new time interval.

    In the last 30 days at least the following unusual events in nature have supported the orbital path proposed in this article and the proximity of the star of the Warning, in a situation of near-alignment with the Earth and the Sun:
    1. Number and magnitude of earthquakes: 1 of magnitude 8, 4 majors of magnitude 7 and 16 majors of magnitude 6.
    2. Unusual Global Earth Core Vibration
    3. Unexpected change of magnetic displacement of the North Pole
    4. Reports of important fireballs (Spain, Arctic, Colombia, summary)

    In the online store of this website you can obtain various materials related to the Notice, such as the slides updating the last 2 videos on the Notice, the flood maps of different countries by the global tidal wave that will produce the overturn of the Geographical poles or a compendium on Sacred Astronomy.

    Many Thanks again, Carol55
     
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  8. Carol55

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    WCWTS, Thank you I was hoping that someone might do that, now it will make a bit more sense. I ran out of patience this afternoon but I didn't want to waste the effort I put into the translation by not posting it.

    Can you please answer djnoforegon's question from post #621? Appears to be a yes.
    THANK YOU.
     
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  9. Another viewpoint among the many....without a lot of clarification:

    Planet X / Nibiru, World War 3 and the end of days
    http://planetxnews.com/2016/12/14/planet-x-nibiru-world-war-3-end-days/

    By Guest Writer David Meade


    The views expressed in this article are the writer’s own and do not necessarily represent those of PlanetXnews.com nor its parent company, XmediaX.

    ......

    The next piece of the puzzle is this – and remember that John, who penned Revelation, a book of supernatural origin – wrote the book of Revelation, according to my Stellarium matrix, in the exact period in which we are living. In other words, from the viewpoint of the planet Earth and from the timetable of December 24, 2016 to October of 2017.

    “A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.” -Revelation 12:1-2

    The great sign of the Woman as described in Revelation 12:1-2 forms and lasts for a few hours. According to computer-generated astronomical models, this sign has never before occurred in human history. It will occur once on September 23, 2017. It will never occur again. When it occurs, it places Earth immediately before the time of the sixth seal of Revelation. The Book of Revelation is literal and written in this exact time frame.

    The next event that follows is that Planet X will fully eclipse the sun and cover the whole earth and full moon in shadow on Thursday, October 5, 2017 (a full moon date). Our clue that this is the date is from Revelation, Chapter 6, verse 12:

    “I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red …” -Revelation 6:12

    October 5, 2017 is the only full moon that occurs after September 23, 2017 (the sign of the Woman), but before October 11, 2017, the end of the Woman’s pregnancy. Jupiter, known to the Jews as the planet of the Messiah, exits Virgo (the Virgin) on October 11, 2017, after having spent 291 days (December 24, 2016 to October 11, 2017) in the “womb” region of that constellation.

    The sign of the Red Dragon appears in heaven after the sign of “the woman.” Planet X is visible during this total solar eclipse, as the following verse indicates:

    “Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads.” -Revelation 12:3

    The Red Dragon will collide with the earth on Thursday, October 5, 2017. The Red Dragon will enter Earth’s orbit and fully eclipse the sun and cover the entire earth and full moon in shadow on Thursday, October 5, 2017.

    You have until October 5, 2017 to prepare for Planet X.
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    One of the comments after this article is a question I would have as well:

    What's the significance of the seven heads and ten horns with seven crowns on its heads as it relates to this planet then>


    And AY I think would disagree with the assertion about the Sep. 23, 2017 appearance of the WCWTS has never occurred before in history and would never again when I believe that AY says that that particular configuration does occur every dozen years or so....and that's why he went with the Apr. 13, 2017 date for the Miracle which he correlates with WCWTS since it included other alignments which won't occur again for 100,000 years.

    Once again in predictions confusion abounds....or sharing of MIS-information continues!
     
  10. Woman Clothed WithThe Sun

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    Yes, the answer to this question:
    according to A. Yagüe is YES.
    He explains that the date of November was her personal "deduction" not based on anything else but his interpretation:

    With my little additions -words in red- I think that Antonio's paragraph reads clear that in fact the failure of his prediction about November doesn't change the expectation of the Miracle for April 13, 2017.

    April 13, 2017 is the "cornerstone" of Antonio's dates. If it doesn't hold true then he will have to start from scratch. Thus it still holds his expectation for the Warning to happen from now up until April 13, 2017 -within his time frame. And it is because of this that he is suggesting almost "any" possible trajectory -he has three versions in his picture- to still have the astronomical event of the Warning happening before April 13 next.

    This is my understanding of what he states.
     
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    The women clothed with the sun , with the moon under her feet and the twelve stars appears regularly. What does not is Jupiter in retrograde within her torso and then leaving her torso during the sign. That is what is unusual.
     
  12. So AY doesn't insist or perhaps doesn't even include the match of the Warning with the necessity of occurring in an even year in his own projections.....no?
     
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    Sterph, I believe that you are a little confused about what AY has stated. The woman clothed with sun, with moon under feet and twelve stars at her head is the rare event, people looked back 1000 years and into the future for 1000 years and this has not occurred, but it will occur on 9/23/17 only. The very interesting thing in addition to this is that Jupiter entered Virgo in November and remains there due to retrograde motion for what appears to be the length of a pregnancy. (So it is amazing because of 2 things!)

    What happens every year in the spring is that Jupiter does pass through Virgo and the moon is at her feet, this is definitely the case on 4/13/17, so at this time there is no sun on her shoulder (not clothed in the sun) and she will have only Leo at her head 9 stars BUT since the one time unusual event which will take place on 9/23/17 is in progress because of Jupiter remaining there for so many months until this complete is what makes this April unusual. And that is why AY is not changing his mind on the date of the miracle.

    I hope I explained this correctly. I also urge everyone to look at what I posted on the "What is the Storm Thread" I think that it could be important in figuring some things out.
     
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    ETA, AY agrees with what I wrote in the previous post, I urge you to watch his video again. He knows WCWTS sign from Rev 12 is only on 9/23/17. Personally, I am very convinced that his date for the miracle is correct. When and how the Warning occurs I believe will be a mystery until it happens but I think it will happen before 4/13/17.

    What you posted above is interesting, I am going to take a look at Stellarium again, they believe that the birth is on 10/11. Everyone here needs to realize that Virgo is a constellation and we don't know when she exactly became "pregnant" and when exactly she will give "birth", just because it appears to look like it occurs on such and such a date does not mean that is what is represented. So this hypothesis could be correct but I read Rev 12 as if it is all at the same time, WCWTS w/moon, 12 stars travailing (laboring) on 9/23/17. But who knows?
     
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    I totally agree with you. As much as I don't want to be caught off guard and I would like to know the how and the when of the Warning, I think it is possible that we are supposed to be caught off guard.
     
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  17. My observation of AY's hypotheses re: the Miracle as he also references Garabandal is that he equates the sign in the sky WCWTS to come with that Miracle and so he has posited both on his date of 4/13/17. He gives his own reasons for that date (not occurring again for 100,000 years) being the other referenced alignments he gives, taking place on his chosen date, that are not contained in the other "normal" date, occurring more often, that he acknowledges others have pointed out. I read him as then differing from them and not "so far" accepting the WCWTS date of 9/23/17 for his date of the Miracle. And his latest info seems to still count on that 4/13/17 date for the Miracle. That would then not appear to follow his other reference point, Garabandal, IF there is no Warning occurring this year and IF he knows of and accepts the statements re: that Warning having to occur in an even year.

    Just for clarification then, if you don't mind, since you say you are convinced that AY's date for the miracle is correct, 4/13/17, and you say that the Warning should just happen "before 4/13/17" do you also not put much weight to the even number year being the requirement for the Warning? If you do also believe that the Warning has to be in this even numbered year, 2016, in order for the Miracle to occur in AY's 2017 date, then you think it must occur between now and the end of this year....and that would also necessitate the other requirements of the Pope's visit to Moscow and Communism being more forcefully recognized as being in control....esp. in those countries that were recognized as "the world" to the Garabandal seers? It does seem that Garabandal, if included, influences outcomes as well.

    There is also, to my way of thinking, the other hypothesis, looking to the state of the Church these days, as seeing this "invasion" of the womb of the Virgin, within this alignment in the sky as being evil, having already entered to some extent now for some time into the Church or figuratively in the Woman representing the Church, that this is the full or complete entering of that evil, with the Dragon standing by, into the Church and actually and finally being "birthed" = end of our recognized "institutional or organizational" Church. When that occurs those who have prepared themselves through all these times per the Mother's guidance and have been consecrated to her and her Son will be the ones to continue to live only with that help through the dark times....our only help. Others would be susceptible to the takeover of what had gone before once that full "birth" of evil occurs for the Church....and no more "real" Church as an institution. Just offering the speculations of others....why this is the kind of mystery only dealt with through following the current guidance of Jesus through His Mother for these times. And of course "prophecies" without dates are for doing what they suggest in order to mitigate that which is prophesied to "possibly" occur IF such conversion does NOT occur. Even prophecies of old can be mitigated by accepting the ongoing helps to the faithful over the centuries, through other Father permitted "visits" by the Mother, that can have actually changed what seemed to have been written in stone.....why not everything was able to have been written within the scriptures themselves, as John says, and why Jesus told us that He had to go in order for the Spirit to come and continue to teach us and reveal more understanding to us. We are then to watch the signs around us but that is also an instruction to alert us and the rest of the world as well to change and beg for the help still available in God's unfathomable Mercy before it's too late. Perhaps that is what is meant by "it will happen but it will be late".....the conversion that will bring all the graces stored up from the beginning still intended by God for His children! He never gives up even if we do!
     
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    ETA, I may have assumed that AY is aware of the WCWTS completing on 9/23/17 which is a little difficult for me to believe but he does not reference it directly enough in that video to be certain that he is aware of it. Is there a way which we could reach out to AY to ask him? I apologize if I mislead anyone but, in my opinion, Virgo is simply a constellation except for this period of time until 9/23/17, now she is representing the WCWTS.
    I said that I am very convinced about 4/13/17 but I don't think that I could convince anyone else because I know that many people are waiting for other events to happen first or for things to happen at a particular time. I would need someone to convince me beyond a shadow of a doubt that it could not happen then. When it doesn't happen on that date you can remind of my error. (Yes, I think it is possible the Warning occurs in 2017. I believe that it is possible that some error was made and it could be in an odd year.)
     
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    No, he is not taking that into his calculations as a well established data/condition that the date of the Warning needs to meet.
    At least I'm not aware of having heard him talk about this even year condition for the Warning.

    There is video of a Garabandal congress in Australia in 1991 where Mari Loly and Jacinta attended with their spouses. Maria Saraco was there too. It is very interesting to see that they are asked insistently about how near or far the date of the Warning will be vs the day of the Miracle and the only thing clear and settled is that it can be ANYTIME between days to under one year of the Miracle. Mari Loli specifically insists that it doesn't need to be on the same or different year, only WITHIN TWELVE MONTHS. At the same time APRIL is singled out as THE month of the Miracle with no question whatsoever from the seers.

    This is the video I'm talking about

    It is very interesting in this particular video how the visionaries keep such a low key record of details. The actual "expert" on Garabandal is Maria Saraco -who knows practically by heart so many details written here and there. The visionaries obviously have retained the experience but much of it is kind of ineffable. In this particular video they were on public TV and showed themselves very shy to talking. Jacinta's husband is truly her spokesman.

    Anyway, as I've said before, we can't take every detailed that has been written as spoken by the visionaries as we do with Scripture.

    One thing that struck me from this video is how there are assumptions that obviously create a bias and an expectation of how things are going to happen. And then 25 years later we realize some errors already exposed like: Joe Lomangino WILL HAVE TO BE PRESENT at the Miracle; what is going to be life for Mari Loli as a seer after the Miracle (questions dealt with in the panel of the video) etc. I certainly expect to have our expectations shattered by the "real thing" when it comes. Thus I think it is much more important to focus on the spiritual and personal preparation for the events, especially at a spiritual level, than anything else.
     
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    WCWTS, Can you possibly verify if Mr. Yague is aware of the completion of the WCWTS sign on 9/23/17? I think I have assumed this from his videos, it make sense to me that he is but maybe he isn't. Thank you.
     

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