ANTONIO YAGüE ALERT: Warning Astro Visualized - CONFIRMED

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Hi Mario,

What makes this system so hard to see (if it is there at all) is that it is closer to the sun than we are at this point in its path. Since it makes no light on its own (the Brown Dwarf does not nor does Niburu) and it is closer to the sun than we are, any light that hits it from the sun, is reflected back toward the sun. We are on the back side of the system. Think of our own moon when it is a "New Moon". It is there but we can't see it (and it is close!). In the evening, we might catch a glimmer of reflection from this system. We just can't see something that is dark until it gets real close (again, we can't see our own moon at times). We might not see it until it goes in front of the sun like Antonio shows in the drawing above. We will definitely see its outline then. To see a black dot that keeps getting bigger is just not going to happen because light fills in around it as sunlight passes it and comes to earth. Antonio's dot shows that the dark system will get optically bigger as it comes closer to us, we just can't see it because we can only see reflections (only God see's things as they truly are). This is why we can only see Mercury and Venus at certain times. They are also closer to the sun than we are and reflect the light back to the sun unless they are on the back side of the sun or at at 90 degree angle or so to it, it is then we can see them at twilight or in early morning before sunrise. If we are to see the Brown Dwarf or Niburu, the times should be the same to view it. If you have an infrared telescope, you can probably see the system now, but binoculars or a regular telescope can only see reflected light coming back toward us and there is nothing "behind earth" to provide that light unless it catches a reflection off of something else. I don't think we'll see it till it's on top of us, if it is indeed even there.

Peace My Brother,
Ed

 

The original image that was removed (the cross image) was placed on Google Sky in 2008 shortly after the South Pole powerful infrared telescope was established in 2007. It's interesting that the message given allegedly by our Lady about seeing "a Second Sun on the horizon, shortly afterwards would come great changes in nature" came in 2008! The original cross like image was replaced with the typically expected image with wings from the famous images, some in stone, left by the ancients. And the coordinates for the so called replacement image for the patched over area are different from those given for the original blacked out space.

A bit more on the replacement hoax:

http://yowusa.com/2015/07/google-sky-winged-object/

 

ETA, where is this message about the second sun from?

 

From OLOE which has the backing of Fr. Laurentin, Fr. Iannuzzi, Fr. O'Carroll, other Marian theologians....and which was left in the neutral position (due to complete testing of the seer) in two different dioceses for decades UNTIL this message arrived which bothered many who said that our Lady didn't speak about apocalyptic things!! (Now the recent messages given to Luz de Maria are similar....mentioning that "second sun") Not then familiar with Fatima I guess:



Public Message

Our Lady of Emmitsburg

To the World

through Gianna Sullivan

June 1, 2008



My dear little children, praised be Jesus!


Little ones, thank you for coming to pray. Know how much God loves you. He has given you tremendous gifts.


Children, for the last 20 years I have oftentimes spoken of “change.” I have told you that there isno time for fear; there is only time for change. You must know by now that I have recently spoken of an arising of “two suns.” When you see the two suns on the horizon, you must know that this is a time of change, a time of this new beginning about which I have spoken to you before. After you see the two suns, there is only a short time before you will see a tremendous change in weather. After this, as you know, there are more changes to come.


Children, God did not create only the Earth. God is the Creator of the cosmos, with its many galaxies, many orbits, different stars and different planets. God is the Creator! There are other planets like earth, far beyond your understanding.


I can tell you this: Even your governments and the Church authorities already have knowledge of the stars aligning and its implications upon you. You must not fear but must be prepared, primarily spiritually.


After awhile, you will see a time when there is another body in orbit around your solar system, coming between Earth and the Sun and leading to tremendous devastation. Approximately 60-70% of the world’s population, as you know it, will cease. Of those who survive, 60% of them coulddie of disease and starvation.



Prayer is the answer! Prayer can mitigate much of anything to come. Love and unity must be at the forefront, not survival of the fittest. But I can assure you that secretly those in governmental positions around the world and Church authorities all know. As your Mother and with you aschildren of God, it is my duty to forewarn you and to draw you to my Son for protection.

Look not too far before you will see two suns. Make my words known to all people: Life is important because God loves you. Those who are in control of the financial world think differently. But I your Mother know what true Life is!


So prepare, spiritually prepare. You will always be with my Son if you trust. God has a special plan, a new beginning! Look to Him; and do notfear, but love with all your heart.


I look to you, and I answer your prayers. Even if you are a sinner, and even if you were wrong, I come for your intercession. Now you must remove your “self” from your desires and look to help all people.


Peace to you (fading whisper).

 

concerning this issue, has anyone seen the short talks EWTN is playing by the pope when he was a bishop? They are called "Before He Was Pope". I found them on youtube, I just googled "youtube before he was pope" and they came up: youtube before he was pope
There is one talk on the Eucharist. It is worth a listen, they are very short:

 

Thanks ETA,

I found this on Wikipedia:
On October 8, 2008, Most Rev. Edwin O'Brien, Archbishop of Baltimore, issued a Pastoral Advisory condemning the messages and revelations as not authentic and cautioned Talone-Sullivan from continuing the distribution of the messages as gravely harmful to the spiritual life of the faithful.[9] This Pastoral Advisory was addressed "to the Christian faithful of the Archdiocese of Baltimore", and distributed to every Catholic Church in Maryland. The letter from Archbishop O’Brien warned Gianna Sullivan not to disseminate in any way, by her own person or by any other person, by electronic means or any other means, on any church property or in any public or private place any messages. He then warns others not to disseminate her messages because it is harmful to the church and he hopes that this will stop the confusion of the faithful.

A study was done and a finding of "constat de non supernaturalitate" or nothing supernatural in nature was reached.

There is also apparently a "cult watch" regarding them.

Miracle hunter has what I believe is the latest official Church position on this.
http://miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/statements/talone-sullivan_20081008.pdf

I would stay away from these, especially since there are so many other messages without this type of warning from the Church attached to them.

 

I've just finished watching Antonio's last video. It is very informative and very balanced and worth to have it translated into English if anyone might be able to do so.

I will just jot out from memory a couple of main ideas and will see what else might do later.

There are not only one but AT LEAST TWO sets of previously unknown/unnamed astronomical systems approaching the Earth at this time from two almost opposite directions, which means that the 4 astronomical events in the Book of Revelation are not necessarily due to ONE and the same system

Then he goes at length into very detailed technical information of what can be observed in the sky, the spectrum -above and below the visible which is only a small piece. He explains in detail the characteristics and reliability of the information of the two main observers that we have already posted the links before in this thread. He also explains in detail why it is not being seen by the many observatories of the Sun. He also explains with pictures the two main satellites (Soho and another at the other end) ... etc . etc. Very interesting and explains why it is not being seen by everybody -or even anybody. He also explains how some of the "sightings" very popular in the Internet in recent days are plain errors mistaking Jupiter or other planets for the Warning aster out of ignorance.

He also says how observers are posting their findings but are not interpreting them. This is what he, Antonio, is doing, and is doing so by incorporating Scripture, Marian apparitions, and even prophetic dreams and even other current happenings that people are sharing with him. All this put together gives him a "structure" that is not apparent for the observers to interpret what they see.

The observations from Queretaro in the three days Nov 1-3 show that the body of the Warning is travelling at HUGE speed (five times the speed of the Earth) and is now very close to the Sun. His size is very big too. He explains in detail how he has created the hypothesis of the trajectory and speed.

All in all he has detailed maps of the movement of this aster. He says that the dates shouldn't be taken "literally" (meaning as EXACTLY) because the real data is very little so he says we should be thinking of only approximates -although he is not changing the dates he provided.

The dreams of people speak of this huge body appearing very "suddenly and unexpectedly". [Antonio explains in detail why it won't be visible to the naked eye still in some days. He is very strong in calling for caution in not to look at the Sun without filters]

Two dreams speak of the 14 as the day it happens.

There is one other dream of someone in Central America who sees both oceans come together and cover the whole earth on their geography. But this person in the dreams kneels in prayer and the water doesn't touch them -as an extraordinary protection.

Other young people in particular, unawares of anything of this topic are getting the urge to go to confession ...

Etc.

He recommends a lot of caution as to passing the information to people who is unaware. He recommends for people to go first through the whole information of the articles he has recently published (basically what I've posted in this thread). Also to not just give dates to people because that only makes the whole thing not credible. He invites to go to the information and try to understand it.

Hope this is helpful at least as a first -and very poor- reference of his video. He will continue posting updates in the on demand vimeo channel.

 

Please no one get so distracted by all this they forget to go and vote tomorrow in the USA! The balance in the Senate is crucial---if Hilary is president we must at least ensure enough pro-life candidates are in the Senate and House so they don't simply rubber-stamp everything she puts forth. Please do this! Think of how many times the devil has distracted people with preoccupations, all the while keeping them from doing what God wants them to do...

 

I can't thank you enough, WCWTS. The time and effort you spent doing this is very much appreciated. God bless you and your work of Mercy!

 

WCWTS, I am not well educated in the solar system and its movements. However, I have a few questions hoping you could answer"
1. I understand that Niburu (or the brown dwarf star) does not give its own light. What light makes it visible at some point? The light from our sun or the sun in its own system?
2. Antonio seems to indicate that at some point very soon (day's) we will be able to see this star with our naked eye and this star is what brings about the Warning. Does he predict what star it seems to be on a collision course with, which the Garabandal seers see as the great light that penetrates every human soul (the Illumination of Conscience)? Could it be the moon?

 

From my point of view, the election is the distraction from the peace and prayer that God wants us to be focused on. No prophecy (approved or alleged) has the outcome of our election changing the course of our country or the world (although one could argue that Hillary gets us where we are headed faster). The prophecies are telling us to get prepared, cause what is coming, no man can change its course and only prayer/fasting will suffice to minimize it some. Oh, I will still vote, but it will not stop the purification at our door steps now. It is not only about the US, but find me one moral leader left in the world who can change the course of our ultimate global collapse. It is time to focus on spiritual, mental and physical preparations with whatever little time we have left before man and earth do its damage upon our world.

 

This object doesn't have light of its own and because it is so near to the Sun, the tremendous light of the Sun hides it. But once it has come this side of the Sun, we will see it in plain daylight. If you allow yourself to WATCH the video even if you don't understand the audio you will see wonderful images maps, and drawings that you'll be able to understand. There is one showing exactly what you ask, how it will be visible WHEN finally will be visible to the naked eye. [This video doesn't have the feature that shows the image on the bottom line as you run the cursor so It will take much time for me to go back and forth and find it but is there].

He doesn't talk AT ALL of a collision.
And from what I clearly remember the Garabandal seers spoke of "IT IS AS IF.... "two stars collide, meaning more of a visual effect than an astronomical event (this is my own response not Antonio's).

 

Blessings to all of you and your family always, through our Lord Jesus Christ. I would like to express a supernatural experience I had like two years ago . I always go to the tebenacle Monday through Friday . I would spend One to three hours in prayer for many years. Then I would come home and keep praying more. On one ocassion after arriving at home from the chapel, I went down to my family room and prayed for some more time on my knees. Suddenly when I paused to meditate, I heard a soft voice that said to me, " There will be a great Earthquake and more than a million people will perish, when you hear this, it will be a sign, take your family and leave this country at once". Just throwing this out there, maybe someone can comment on it , thank you. Your brother in Christ, Rey Urena. I currently live in the United States .

 

I don't doubt that you received a message, but I caution you on where to leave to, since many prophecies have this taking place all over the globe. Area's around ocean and large bodies of water are doomed as well with gigantic tidal waves will swallow up many countries. I think it is best to stay put until or unless you are directed by the angels where to go at any giving moment. Most importantly to stay in God's grace and pray the rosary daily. This is the best thing to be doing right now and through it all.

 

That Wiki spot is very inaccurate and wanting with regard to the factual evidence as to the history of these apparitions. They have been discussed on this forum previously with many more tributes and reports of the challenges. Those experts who have challenged this current non-study fraud of a "commission"....like Fr. Iannuzzi, Fr. Laurentin, Dr. Courtney Bartholomew et al have taken the errors to Rome and have been told that such errors had every right to be reconsidered. The fuller study and commission was completed in Arizona and that study was accepted in the Baltimore Archdiocese for years until the time of this message which initiated the fraudulently set up quickie biased "commission" which refused to include the complete history. It's private revelation and so one goes by the more accurately studied commission that most closely followed the Church's requirements for such study. One either accepts the Church's requirements for such commissions or questions the intentions of one that does not follow what is required be it the last or not. It was never condemned in any case. And the judgement's requirements for those involved have been obeyed. Frankly one should actually look for such challenges when it comes to authenticity since most true ones have gone through such times. You'll find "cult watches" fly as well with such as Medjugorje or Fr. Gobbi.

 

I am still waiting for the two Garabandal conditions to take place before the Warning: (1) "when communism returns" and (2) "when things are at their worst" For this reason, I don't see Niburu as being the Warning star in day's or weeks, unless something world wide collapses very very soon. Could the US election tomorrow be a trigger for this to take place??

 

IMPORTANT: THE VIDEOS WILL SELF TRANSLATE TO ENGLISH, FRENCH OR ANY OTHER LANGUAGE

Hello everybody. I don’t speak Spanish so I was trying to watch the videos as they are and see what I could get from them. I was playing the video and I thought to put on the CC closed captioning button on the bottom. That brought up the closed captioning in Spanish but if you then go to the “settings” button and go up to subtitles/CC you can click it and change the language to any language you want.

I never knew this. This should be able to be used on any Youtube videos that have closed captioning, not just Antonio’s.

 

Okay, you are welcome to your opinion. I am not trying to get in a disagreement with you. I am mostly concerned with people casually reading the thread knowing that there are problems with this seer.

The local bishop has the authority to properly discern these things though. I will follow that authority. The last very authoritative and explicit word on this was that there was nothing supernatural found and that the faithful were very strongly encouraged not to follow them.

The last Bishops commission findings and warning to the faithful was this one:
http://miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/statements/talone-sullivan_20081008.pdf

Note: She was receiving messages up until at least 2008 so the earlier studies when she lived in Arizona (the year 2000 I think) could not possibly cover the later messages as the 2008 bishops letter I cited above did.

 

Personally I feel that there are many arguments out there to show that communism has indeed returned under a more sinister guise. It has become such an abhorred word that people don't think of grouping words like socialism, statism, liberalism, and the like in the same category. Also, at what point can we say that we know things are at their worst? I do mean this sincerely, but who are we to judge the worst state the world should be at before God intervenes? I think we are the boiling frog, and each generation is less shocked by the same act/thought/idea/etc. than the previous generation would have been. How are we to recognize the worst state if we are so use to our rose-colored glasses? Also, we have been told over and over that prayer and victim souls help to mitigate disasters. The Lord's intervention may come sooner than otherwise because of this. I don't know if or when the warning will come, but I'm not sure I would say it definitely can't come yet because I'm still waiting on communism and the worst the world can get to.

 

Fatima, over the years I've read -in Spanish- a thillion things on Garabandal although I never took notes but I clearly remember that at some point at least one of the seers said that she was not sure if it was "communism" or if it was "revolution" -as if the words were to her only words more than concepts, meaning that she was not sure which one of the two was the right word to name what she wanted to express -or as if she couldn't remember exactly the word (if she had heard it).

In a previous post in this thread I've mention that we shouldn't treat the many -at times scattered- sayings of the Garabandal girls as we do with Scripture. The MESSAGE itself hasn't changed in over 50 years, but their memories, their sayings, although all very valuable, I think need to be taken with not only a grain of salt but at times with a spoonful. And I don't say this in any negative way. I'm a firm believer in Garabandal and highly respect each one and all the seers. BUT... to me that is ONLY a reference. I try to rather pray, watch, listen, and be open to have all my ideas turned up-side-down by the real thing.

I am a native of Spain from a town not far away from Garabandal but certainly not isolated and primitive; also of almost the same age as them. Spain in the sixties was politically isolated from the external world because Franco "shouldn't have won the Spanish War" and the powers that were in the world didn't forgive that to Spaniards. The calendar where Conchita saw that the date of the Miracle was a saint of the Eucharist, was most probably the very same calendar that was in my home kitchen (there weren't that many available or needed). I could tell the books they studied, the religious pictures and practices familiar to them ... many things. And I can understand the abysmal jump requested of them on the aftermath of the apparitions.

So I am not talking about them lying or speaking what was not true. But I can understand that they were ill prepared for the accuracy of expression that we try to project on every single word they pronounced that has been recorded. I can also appreciate the amazing wisdom they were gifted with and they learned from Our Blessed Mother, very amazing and precious.

But all in all, I'm not caught in the very rich literature we have as if it would have to happen exactly as it sounds.

One of the most puzzling things in the whole Garabandal event, to me, is that when God agreed to provide a miracle as a prove, the "milagruco" -little miracle- of the visible communion, the day was given for it to happen. The day came and went, and at midnight Conchita HAD NOT RECEIVED THE VISIBLE COMMUNION. About two hours after midnight -which technically was no longer the calendar day announced- THEN and ONLY THEN she received the visible communion. This is a fact that includes both the fulfillment and the not fulfillment of the promise. In any case you need faith to believe that the next day was as good as the date announced. This is the freedom of God and how even when he concedes and gives us signs we still have to believe IN FAITH.
The reason for the delay on that visible communion has been explained at length because Conchita had already received holy communion in church that morning. In those days it was not permitted receiving holy communion more than once in a day (as is now allowed in the Code of Canon Law in certain conditions). But you could say that Heaven knew that in advance, so failing to comply within the tame frame set by Heaven itself was the same as not fulfilled prophecy -and a prove AGAINST the seers and not on favor.

I offer this in the hope to be of help to expand our sense towards God's plans, and events, and how things are not going to be easy to discern except ON OUR KNEES and with a huge dose of humility, patience, and trust in God over and above every data we might gather.

I have to say that the same applies to me around Antonio's work. I've put many hours over several years watching his videos and reading his books. But I would not be surprised if he is completely off the mark. In any case I find his work of immense value because he provides a structure that helps us -me- to prepare for what is so hard to perceive just by reading Scripture or other things. I treasure his efforts and wisdom but I'm not caught into the need for him to be exact on dates and details to know that he is also a gift from God to help us negotiate the End Times.