Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

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  1. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

  2. MMM

    MMM Archangels

    I can't wait till Jan. 2018 for the next flurry of "it's all about to happen in the next year or 2" to start up again.

    Yes I do believe things are going to happen as scripture has stated (when who knows!) and I do believe many seers and prophets are close at reading the signs of the times...BUT...Watching and praying as Jesus asked is one thing but living in constant expectation of a dwarf star, miracle, illumination etc. is quite another. I agree it's wise to be ready spiritually for change or death but I refuse to spend month after month and year after year living as if a major world cataclysmic event is just around the corner. The sheer number of seers and personal locutions that will claim God changed the timing "again" in the coming months/years will be just as overwhelming as the new dates and new messages. This will never stop happening till something actually happens. I don't begrudge anyone spending their time in this area of interest but I find it all a bit too much. Yes I have a passing interest too but I feel like I am being pulled away or maybe I just am starting to think it's all B.S.

    Please reference this post in Jan. 2018 after nothing predicted happens. I am keeping some popcorn on hand though to enjoy as the dwarf star heads our way!!
     
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  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I absolutely believe that something is going to happen soon (no BS) and I find it very difficult to discuss the situation with others because I want to give them a possible timeframe but when nothing happens in that timeframe, well...
     
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  4. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I think everybody is so focused on when "it" is going to happen that they aren't realizing it has already started. :)
    This is it people. The end times are here already. When you watch the evening news, that is the book of revelation and you have a front row seat.
     
  5. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Praetorian, no question that the signs are bad. My question is this, at what stage of the end of the times are we in?
     
  6. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I would like to see Praetorian's answer also.
    It must be the beginning based on what is happening, persecution. I am finding some peace in Verne's and Cleutus' prophecies right now.

    Just a thought and I know Saint Faustina said that the sky would darken for the Illumination of Conscience but it could be possible that we would see a vision in our minds of a darkened sky and a cross, there may be sound associated with it, and then we would see the state of our souls. It gives me some peace to think this will be what happens, it's ok if I'm wrong and I won't be debating it with anyone. I just need this peace at times. Peace and love to all of you.
     
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  7. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    In short Booklady, we are at the very edge of the "action" beginning.

    From my study of approved prophecy, we are in the time referred to as "The beginning of sorrows", but not the true "end of time". We are not in the time of the antichrist. Our Lady's Era of Peace has to come before he arrives. We are in the "dress rehearsal" for the end of the world. Most of the things that will happen in the coming years will also happen later before and during the time of the antichrist. We are to be a "type" for the end times, just as is found in the bible and Church history.

    We are in an age of Apostasy from the faith and on the edge of The Great Apostasy. Whereas the Era leading up to the Chastisement has been building since Our Lady's first appearances in the early 1800's, now we are truly on the cusp. We can actually see in the headlines what has been written in approved prophecy. There is to be a war between all of Europe and Russia, a Muslim invasion of Europe, a schism in the Church, a watering down of the faith to where a "version" of the faith is presented to the world that will not be the true faith. The true Pope will be forced to flee Rome and a false antipope will take over control of the Church from there. From this new entity which inhabits the old buildings will come forth a mockery of Catholicism which most former Catholics will join. It is a "religion of man" and much more accommodating to his desires, yet it will have many of the trappings of Catholicism. A remnant will still follow the old true ways but it will be in secret and they will be persecuted for it.

    Sister Lucy said the Third Secret is essentially chapters 8-13 of the book of revelation. This is the time we live in now. We are on the very cusp of things turning from "warm" to "hot".

    Personally I think that the 100 year time period we were given, as the King of France was given, ends in 2029. This is because Our Lady officially came to ask for the consecration of Russia in 1929, but that is just an educated guess. I think between 2017 and 2029 we will see things really heat up and the man made part of the Chastisement occur.

    According to approved prophecy there is still a lot to happen though. So all will not be finished in a year or two. The man-made part of the "Chastisement" will last at least 3 1/2 years and maybe 4-7 or more. The length and severity are dependent upon how we responded to Our Lady's call so there is no way to know that for sure. Then there will be a Heaven sent Chastisement of the Three Days Darkness and fire falling from the sky to wipe out a great part of humanity. Then comes Our Lady's era of Peace.

    This is one view of the end times. The one I have come to believe is true. There is another view that believes that the antichrist will come now and not at the end of the world. That is not the more commonly ascribed understanding of the end times that many theologians believe in though I cannot say for certain it is not the way things will unfold. Many in the earlier Church believed the antichrist would come before the end of the world. At some point (I forget exactly when, perhaps after St. Thomas Aquinas if memory serves) scholars changed their view on that.

    Both viewpoints however acknowledge that we are not living at the end of the world. Only through a period of Chastisement.
     
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  8. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    Thank you for your patience, Praetorian, you've cleared up a few of my confusions.
     
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  9. There is the view that believes in a type of antichrist before the era of peace ("Maria Valtorta and End Times" and another book called "The Antichrist and end Times" by Fr. Ianuzzi say the same thing using different sources) and the last antichrist after the era of peace.
     
  10. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I can't say that I am knowledgeable about the books that you mention but I believe from scripture it appears that this is quite possible.
     
  11. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-revives-nuclear-shelters-as-cold-war-heats-up-1477301408
    What if the discussion of war is all a ruse? Could that be why the BVM said no WWIII? Maybe there is a brown dwarf headed our way and some how they know about it? IDK.
    And then again we have...
    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/24/how-russia-saw-americas-third-debate/
    “However much people criticize the USSR – the old fogies who ran it, one and the same, supposedly the conscience of the world, now we see the same thing in the USA: the exceptional country – the country that has bases everywhere, soldiers everywhere, is bombing everywhere in some city or other. They are making their ‘experiments.’ The next experiment is to have a woman in the White House. It will end badly. Hillary has some kind of dependency. A passion for power – and that is dangerous for the person who will have her finger on the nuclear button. If she wins, on Nov. 9th the world will be at the brink of a big war…”

    Sorry, I am torn between 3 threads but somehow I think that all of this is related, one way or the other. (astronomy, election, war?)
     
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  12. MMM

    MMM Archangels

    I would say that the the Bible proves the ac will come and precede the era of peace. It's in Daniel in detail, Jesus references Daniel and the ac in the new testament and revelations also confirms the same. Reading all these references leaves zero doubt for me.

    Were are we in that time frame? Using the 7 seals I would argue the 2 seal hasn't been opened fully yet. The world is in a horrible state but if peace is taken from the world like a seal being opened it will have to be much worse than the first or second world wars to get a special mention in the Bible. So we still have many seals to come. Yes they could all come in quick succession (or possibly much slower than we think). Mark Mallett sees the 6th seal as the illumination and his arguments for it and the general timing is better than I've read by anyone.

    As for the final week or 7 years of Daniel and the ac, I don't believe the 7 years even starts till the ac is revealed, he (or she ;)) will make a peace pact with many nations (due to the seals being broken, wars, financial collapse, famine, death, sounds fun eh?) and all will look up to "it" as a savior of sorts. But as the bible states just when people are saying peace and security then all hell breaks loose and the ac's true intentions and plan are revealed which will be at the 3 1/2 year mark. He will wage war on all those consecrated to Jesus and His Mother BUT, the refuge of Mary's immaculate heart will protect us during this time. Fear not, I think if God brings you this far He and His mother are going to be known to you better than you ever thought possible. The 3 days of darkness are at the end of the 7 years when God cleanses the earth of the ac and all who follow her (why not could be) and chain it and its likely millions of fallen angels in hell for the "thousand" years. Anyone lucky enough to make it to this point must literally have had their minds blown with what just happened.

    The question of when does the warming or illumination come in reference to the time frame of the 7 years I am not clear on. It very likely could be at the beginning. After the illumination, everyone choosing God will amend their life and KNOW you are heaven bound. This truth alone will likely reduce your fear of death to almost nothing. In fact God may reveal your role in getting to the time of peace.

    My guess is most on here will be very old or gone before this all happens. I could be wrong though. I also admit this is scary as hell but this is also the battle of faith.

    Wow, sorry to ramble on......likely all nonsense.....
     
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  13. Rey Urena

    Rey Urena Server

    Brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, don't want to stir any confusions or fear, As our Lord Jesus tells us in Scripture. " When you see these things coming to past, lift up your heads and be joyful, cause Christ our Lord Jesus will cone to liberate us" Glory be to God our father in heaven. On this note would like to express experiences I've been through, these past 20 years. Including signs and wonders deep prayer with many , many trials. I can honestly say, to my understanding. I hope that, I am wrong brothers and sisters in Christ. Please it's not to discourage or put fear in anyone or believe in what I'm about to say. There is only one we can put our faith and trust in, he is our Lord Jesus Christ. Also our bleseed Mother Mary. All this years had led me to believe that the 7 year tribulation will start these year 2016 through 2023.
     
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  14. JAK

    JAK Archangels

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    It's all horrific. The Russians have a point.

    I disagree with other posts that give time for events to explode on the world scene. I am of the belief that once it starts, we shall see everything we have been talking about occur in quick succession.

    The question is what the trigger might be? I was watching for those Russian ships to arrive in position and the Pope to go to Moscow. Now there's a planet in the mix!

    Meanwhile friends are chatting about normal stuff, clothes, shoes, holidays. I mentioned the US election to a friend today who roared with laughter that I could think anything other than a Clinton landslide.

    I feel I am in a parallel world and there are very few reading the signs.

    Are you all keeping things to yourselves?
     
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  15. Rey Urena

    Rey Urena Server

    Think about these times and all the easy communication there is, it was long ago this was not available. Here we are, all these subjects we all are talking about each and everyone of us, was not possible. But here we are, is this not the way is supposed to be, not to have fear, but have in our heart's everyday of our life's, the coming of our Lord. Is not the Devil plan to take away from our hearts, and doubt it. Scriptures says, do no sleep like the others, cause Satan is like a Ferocious Lion, looking to dismember.
     
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  16. Booklady

    Booklady Powers

    At this time, just my husband and I. Frankly, I am still confused, :eek: there are so many visionaries and some saying conflicting things. But the signs are there, clear as water for me.
     
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  17. Rey Urena

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  18. Rey Urena

    Rey Urena Server


    Amen.
     
  19. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I should have noted with the video above they discuss the 2 witnesses, WCWTS and the Red Dragon. It is pretty good in my opinion.

    Probably not the 2 Witnesses that we are expecting later to choose a special pope but maybe they represent out 2 living popes? Again, IDK.
     
  20. JAK

    JAK Archangels

    I'm bumping this. ETA, C55, Booklady, Praetorian, Rey, Dolours, Indy....

    Antonio Y mentioned 28th October as a 'perhaps' date. Can't bring myself to mention it to anyone except here.
     
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