Carol, Just a thought, regarding cancer, perhaps it may be pointing to the U.S., as the U.S. became a separate nation under the constellation of cancer, July 4th? The U.S. at war?
When I state Second Coming it can not be in the physical but it must be a spiritual manifestation. I should have stated Mount Olives not Mount Zion. Natan's NDE continues to worry me, were was his message from? The bible tells us that Jesus will return on Mount Olives but we believe that won't happen until after the era of peace (correct?). If the AC appears on Mount Olives prior to this it will bring much confusion. It is scary how these visions like Natan's can have such a huge impact on our thoughts.
I agree, continue to pray and do what Heaven has instructed. But I think things will happen sooner rather than later. Would not surprise me a bit.
The Jews, it would appear, like others, seem to have their own built in conundrums when it comes to Gog and Magog, scripture meaning, and Nibiru! (also seem to be mixing "comet" into the definition of the actual planet, Nibiru, which will perhaps throw off comets, meteors, etc. as it passes) http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/6...ru-possible-jewish-world/#J6PggQ3BXWUD3Dar.97
In some photos I have seen, Niburu actually appeared to have a tail.....possibly from debris, as you said.
It's interesting that this Rabbi said: “In about a month and a half, they say a meteor will pass over the earth, and when it passes, it will send meteors onto the planet,” the rabbi said. “They say it will be a meteor strike the likes of which the world has never seen. And there is a great suspicion that as a result of this enormous catastrophe that they speak of, multitudes will be killed.” One fellow who has tried to determine the patterns (orbit cycles) of the various planets in the Nemisis solar system, believes that the next orbit of Nibiru will take place close to October 27th. This follows a 200 day pattern that he (Dave Dobbs) has tracked. That makes the Rabbi's comments in line with the next passing of Nibiru. This is all very close to Antonio Yague's prediction of the warning to take place on November 13th. Regardless, it is wise to heed the Rabbi's advice and tend to our souls, even if all of this sky watching is way off.
That article is from March 6th of this year so the Rabbi's next few weeks have come and gone. Guessing and such is a good game but He told us to just keep our lamps full as we know not the hour. Mabye we're better off simply taking Padre Pio's advice, Pray, Hope, and Don't Worry and modern day advice like Trust God, Take the Next Right Step, and Be a Sign of Hope to Others. It's coming, whatever "it" is, but only He knows the day and the hour, meantime my advice would be to just do what you can today to show God's Love to those around you and be simple as children. All this fretting and fighting over this and that isn't pleasing to God, methinks
Yes, Nibiru isn't a meteor itself but holds within its tail the "space junk" that will be pulled by the gravitational force of both our sun and earth....it would appear. Also this system seems to already be disturbing the Kuiper belt or Oort Cloud, throwing their own orbiting junk our of orbit and towards us and elsewhere. Perhaps it's that amount of force that can still be mitigated by our prayers and direct things otherwise, but since certain things are "written" there should be something to be expected as the grand wake up call. This "system" is more dangerous this time around apparently because it comes between the earth and our sun at its closest orbit. Previously that closest distance came on the other side of our sun from us.
Just to inject a bit of science into the discussion: Comets are giant ice cream sundaes with lots of chopped nuts mixed in. (Not quite accurate, but hey, it's almost lunch time where I'm at.) Or, you could think of them as giant snowballs filled with rocks. Either way, they are large frozen objects that are a little heavier than water: If you had a big enough glass of water and dropped one into it, it would sink slowly. They're made up of rocks from the origin of the solar system, as well as a mixture of frozen gasses with a little water mixed in. When they're out in the Oort Cloud it's cold enough the gasses stay frozen -- the temperature there is close to absolute zero, or –459.67°F. As they start approaching the sun, though, the darker parts of the comet start absorbing heat. Soon, parts of the comet on the surface reach the melting points of the different gasses. Oxygen, for example melts at −361.82 °F. In a vacuum the gasses don't form liquids, they sublimate directly from solids into gasses. Thus, the surface of the comet starts fizzing, with tiny bubbles popping all over the place. Each little pop throws off a bit of debris. This debris forms a cloud of dust around the head (the coma) of the comet. As the comet approaches the sun, the pressure of the sunlight causes the dust to form a tail. This tail will be following the comet as it approaches the sun, and leading the comet as it leaves the sun. Comets are not dense enough to have the mass needed to affect other objects along their path. IF you want to confirm that the objects in these videos are comets, you'll need to have someone with more knowledge and experience than me figure out if the tails on these objects are following the direction of movement (in which case they are approaching the Sun) or leading the direction of movement (they are moving away from the Sun). They CANNOT be planets, planetoids, lost moons, asteroids, or any other item of significant mass. Such an item would cause disturbances in the orbits of the Earth and the Moon, significant disturbances which cannot help but be noticed not just by "the great cabal of scientists" that seems to be the view prevalent in far too many of these discussions, but also by amateur astronomers not just in North America but around the world. And if you think that so many of these countries are in lockstep with America, et. al., that they would turn a blind eye to bombing of civilians in Syria but join with America, Russia, China, et. al. to avoid making these government look bad bu suppressing evidence, etc., I hope you're planning on selling tickets to tour your magical world. (Oh, and in addition to all the amateur astronomers mentioned earlier, be sure to include the companies around the world that own and operate satellites that provide telephone and TV coverage for their respective nations, as well as the many, many, many military and scientific satellites, as well as the satellites that provide GPS signals literally around the world. These GPS satellites, in addition to provide services to ships at sea and FedEx, also provide time signals that are used by military, corporate, and academic entities. I'm sure one or two of these entities might have noticed something interfering with their operations.
If this thing's orbital period is about 200 days, then it's just within the orbit of Venus, which has an orbital period (a "year") of 225 days. If it is sharing an orbit with Earth, then this thing is moving hella fast.
Dolours is right Carol. The Church doesn't teach that there will be a literal 1,000 year reign of Christ. Many protestants believe this but it is incorrect. We are living in the time referred to as "the beginning of sorrows" but the end is not yet. The timeline is basically this: Apostasy from the Church's teachings, general wars, riots, economic upheaval, etc. The "Minor Chastisement" (it is called "Minor" only in reference to the later "Major Chastisement" of the antichrist. It will actually kill 2/3 to 3/4 of the population of the world so it is not really "Minor" at all.) This Chastisement contains 2 parts. One from man and one from God. The man made part will consist in Russia attacking the West and overrunning Europe up to the Rhine river. Many other things are included as well, but that is the main focus. The second part of the Chastisement will be the Three Days Of Darkness in which the demons of Hell will be let loose to kill all the remaining enemies of God. Then will come the Era of Peace promised by Our Lady at Fatima. Then the rise of antichrist. Then the return of Christ and then the final judgement. A great book on this is Trial, Tribulation, and Triumph by Desmond Birch. It goes through all the biblical prophecies, prophecies of the saints, approved apparitions, etc. and lays out the timeline in exhaustive detail.
Sounds interesting...... but I'm always so very confused with timelines. For example, you have antichrist coming after the enemies of God are destroyed and the era of peace is established. If that's the case, does that mean all those people who have been through the chastisements, still fall away again at some future date? And if the era of peace comes because of the Triumph of Mother Mary, can it really be a triumph if evil rises yet again?.......I personally don't have a clue on the order of events, and it must not be our focus, but it sure is confusing......
I'm afraid I cringe a bit when I see this kind of post. If it had begun with an introduction saying something like, 'this is my suggested timeline' or similar, it would be ok but instead it begins, 'the timeline is basically this' ! And the bit about Russia is so far from reality that I have to object although I recognize Western propaganda encourages this type of thinking. But maybe you are summarizing someone else's theory in which case I apologize for this post!
Praetorian, Thank you. I think no one knows exactly what the order of events are but you are correct that I made a huge mistake in the placement of the second coming (I realized that I did this more than once) and I did try and correct it with another post stating that it must be a spiritual manifestation of Christ (if any) if it is to come before the era of peace. I absolutely got caught up in Natan's NDE and I am not at all certain about what he saw fitting into what the church teaches. David, I know I probably should not speak for Praetorian but I think both Dolours and Praetorian main goal was to correct the error that I made about the Second Coming which is something that church is clear about. (The timeline appears to be a summary of what is the suggested book which I sure is closer to church teaching than what I stated. Like I said in another post, I am a bit surprised that I got so caught up in Natan's vision.) Thank you again.
Yes apparently people do fall away again at some point and are deceived by the antichrist. We have no idea how long the Era of Peace Our Lady promised will be though. It could be a short time in which case some of the people who lived through the Chastisements may still be alive or it may be generations later.
Yes David. Fair enough Perhaps I should not have been as exacting in my statement. We are all in a grey area here. No one knows for certain how anything will unfold. This timeline however is well accepted by scholars of prophecy and takes into account most all biblical and approved prophecy. My comments about Russia have nothing to do with Russo-phobia. They are from saints prophecies. Easy enough to dig up if you would care to. I actually have respect in some fashion for Putin and the re-Christianizing of Russia. Just a sample prophecy on Russia: Blessed Elena Aiello, stigmatist, and others, (1895-1961) who was declared blessed by Pope Benedict XVI in 2011. "Our Lady revealed to her that Russia would wage a sudden war, would overrun all of Europe." "Russia will march upon all the nations of Europe, particularly Italy, and will raise her flag over the dome of St. Peter's. Italy will be severely tried by a great revolution, and Rome will be purified in blood for its many sins, especially those of impurity. The flock is about to be dispersed and the Pope will suffer greatly."
That is the part that I question also and does not fit with Revelations or what we have been told by Our Lady at least in my opinion. It seems to me that we are going to be given a chance for conversion (IofC/Warning & Miracle possibly) before the AC arrives on the scene but there will be one final battle after the Era of Peace in my opinion. The Judgment of Satan (from Rev 20) 7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth —Gog and Magog-- and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. I call it an order of events as opposed to a timeline, I added some dates to it in a previous post to see if some of these predictions could be true and they do seem possible. I went back and forth about Natan's NDE, first shocked then said no way seems demonic and we can't possible have Gog/Magog battle soon because of the above scripture. Then EarthtoAngels made me realize that Gog/Magog is just referred to as places in the above scripture. So then I began to believe Natan's NDE again but thanks to Dolours and Praetorian I have realized that it is possible that some of what Natan has stated is correct (I think it is possible that Obama is Gog) but I think the message may be demonic and is meant to trick Israel into believing that the AC is the messiah. This to me is the crux of what we will be dealing with and I started falling for it also. So we must believe that there are 2 or 3 battles, in my opinion, AC against the 2 witnesses, angel(s) against the AC then the era of peace and then God against Satan and his army from Gog/Magog. Read the link about the visions of the AC which I posted a few posts back and I think you will see why I see it this way. Then watch Natan's NDE video and see how dangerous it is. I am almost certain that he is referring to the AC and stating that he is the Messiah. As for the part about Russia, well I think that one of the nations involved in the Joint Plan of Action will be responsible for destruction in Europe (including destruction in Rome). Again read the link on the AC, in there is states that the AC will conquer Rome after it is destroyed. This makes perfect sense in my opinion. So when everything has been shaken in Europe by "hostilities in Europe" the AC comes on the scene to "save the day" (not). The most confusing thing is that the bible does state Our Lord appears on Mount Zion and Mount Olives, so I am leaning on what the church has told us second coming after the era of peace, anyone showing up before the era of peace would be the AC, correct? EDITED: And the link that I posted about the AntiChrist has a summary at the top of the page which states a similar order of events to the one which Praetorian posted. IDK
