Signs in the sun, moon, and stars

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Leo, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. I am not buying Sirius. Stars are not that big.
     
  2. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    I do not disbelieve in the two suns theory but I also have trouble with all these videos. Every single sunrise and sunset everyday would show this phenomenon in the same spot that the videos were taken. The sky does not change on a daily basis if this was occurring and moving in a natural orbit. The problem with these videos is that they do not show up each day. Once in awhile I will check out those same site that many of the videos use showing these anomalies especially up in Alaska and one day you see the anomaly but the next day you do not. I try to look at the sunset as often as I can and still never see anything but then again I don't disbelieve but still want hard proof as to seeing these things often and not just the once in awhile videos on youtube.
     
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  3. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    From what I understand, this in an invading solar system whose planets orbit their sun and do not follow the same path as our sun and it's planets. Therefore, their locations will be in different places based on their orbits around their sun. I believe that it has been determined that there are five planets in this invading solar system.
     
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  4. Thank you Oregon. YES! That explains an awful lot.
    Well, I can see where you want hard proof. Perhaps there are reasons we do not understand yet why the phenomenon is only visible at certain times. I do believe that if it is for real, it will come closer and we will experience it, if we do not repent and come back to God as Blessed Mother has asked us repeatedly. I wonder how this fits in with the secrets?
    Many on this forum have expressed disbelief because they do not see how such a phenomenon could be hidden from us by the powers that be. I can hear my late grandmother say now, they are in cahoots. There is a whole web of deceit over our entire planet. I do not want to sound like a conspiracy-theorist gone wild here, but many deaths are unexplained, many things are hidden. All that is hidden will be revealed, at some point. The Lord says so. I speak for myself that I always want to know everything, know more, and sometimes I need to sit back and wait until God decides it is time for us to know. The mainstream media in the USA is "inbred", run by a group of people who are in the Global Elite, or married into it:unsure:.
    Nothing gets past them that is not supposed to be aired. So we soldier on. Heaven is sending us pieces of the puzzle.
     
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  5. Luke 8:17 talks about the things that are hidden will be revealed.
     
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  6. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    Here is something good to read. Do we really think there is a solar system invading our solar system and every credible astronomer in the world is keeping this a secret? it wouldnt happen People like Phil Plait, a world leading astronomer, and a HARSH government critic would be all over this. http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/nutshell.html
     
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  7. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    Thanks, Dean. I'll read this later this afternoon.
     
  8. Well, I respect your opinion but I do not agree with it. There is too much visual evidence to the contrary, now. And I cannot explain why experts are not picking up on this, except to say that they are experts. Perhaps that empirical knowledge and intellectual pride gets in the way. I don't know. I don't know any experts. I just know of people who have seen and filmed evidence of second sun and planet. (shrug)
     
  9. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    yes the planets involved with such a system would be moving around their dwarf/brown star (since it is determined this would be a binary star system with our own sun) and be in different locations, but the dwarf star would follow its orbital path around the sun even if this path would be different then the orbits our planets take. This dwarf star would thus be visible each and every day as it comes closer in the same spot as the day prior with only a little bit of difference the difference being it would be larger each day that wouldn't be visible to our eyes on a daily basis but say over a week or month would be noticeably different.
     
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  10. Okay. Then we are not at that point yet. I also need to interject that if there is a huge nationwide disaster, then FEMA would kick in, and the President would become, in effect, a dictator, and the Congress members would go back to their respective states and "rule". (This may be a reason why Charlie Johnston tells us that the 2016 election would be moot)
    I am just trying to put pieces of the puzzle together and I certainly am not perfect or dogmatic about it. National disasters can come from quakes, great floods on the coast, etc etc. Just sayin'. But some messages mention something coming from the skies. Blessed Mother to Luz, serious dangers are coming from the skies.
    We have to wait and pray and keep an open mind, IMHO.
     
  11. There have been THE most credible of astronomers from decades ago (and now today) who presented this system to those so called reputable scientists of the day....several of these most talented disappeared quite suddenly. The history is very easy to find. The Hubble telescope was able to discover it decades ago. There were many articles from the most well considered publications back in the '80s. It was deliberately hushed up after that. Now with the sudden appearance of "new" rather unexplainable planets in the news, and new surprising arrivals of asteroids, meteors, etc., (Kuiper Belt disturbances or disturbances of the tail of space junk trailing Nibiru) labeled with benign numbers, there are "new" discoveries of such planets with their own moons that are said to possibly be homes for "aliens" and such unexpected and untracked space "junk" demonstrate that this incoming system can no longer be hidden by chem trail types clouds and other atmospheric coverups. Since these objects don't generate their own light but are seen as they come closer to the sun's light in a darkened sky, they are as well hidden by clouds and other types of atmospheric interference. It's not until these rise from behind the sun that they become slightly visible...and only at certain times.

    Revisiting Old News Articles About the 10th Planet, AKA Planet X, Nibiru, Nemesis, Wormwood, Destroyer,

    http://rabbithole2.com/news/top_news/revisiting_old_planet_x_nibiru_destroyer_10th_planet_news.php

    And today's articles....From former skeptics of this Planet X (since Pluto was demoted it is now officially called Planet Nine):

    01/20/2016
    Caltech Researchers Find Evidence of a Real Ninth Planet

    "Although we were initially quite skeptical that this planet could exist, as we continued to investigate its orbit and what it would mean for the outer solar system, we become increasingly convinced that it is out there," says Batygin, an assistant professor of planetary science. "For the first time in over 150 years, there is solid evidence that the solar system's planetary census is incomplete."

    .........And indeed Planet Nine's existence helps explain more than just the alignment of the distant Kuiper Belt objects. It also provides an explanation for the mysterious orbits that two of them trace. The first of those objects, dubbed Sedna, was discovered by Brown in 2003. Unlike standard-variety Kuiper Belt objects, which get gravitationally "kicked out" by Neptune and then return back to it, Sedna never gets very close to Neptune. A second object like Sedna, known as 2012 VP113, was announced by Trujillo and Sheppard in 2014. Batygin and Brown found that the presence of Planet Nine in its proposed orbit naturally produces Sedna-like objects by taking a standard Kuiper Belt object and slowly pulling it away into an orbit less connected to Neptune.

    ........Batygin says that in a couple of ways, this ninth planet that seems like such an oddball to us would actually make our solar system more similar to the other planetary systems that astronomers are finding around other stars. First, most of the planets around other sunlike stars have no single orbital range—that is, some orbit extremely close to their host stars while others follow exceptionally distant orbits. Second, the most common planets around other stars range between 1 and 10 Earth-masses.
     
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  12. Yes, and apparently the danger this time around, in its 3600 year orbit, is that it comes between the earth and our sun at its closest position. Previously it was at this closest position on the other side of our sun from the earth. So that is why its magnetic pull upon our core or poles is posited to become far more dangerous to us this time around. It doesn't have to be that close to do such damage, like those who think it's actually going to collide with earth, and why the main star is labeled "the destroyer" by earlier generations. Its own farthest orbiting planet, Nibiru, is called "the planet of the crossing" since once this object is able to be seen it is said to be what "announces" the nearness of the main "nemesis/destroyer" star which will be the thing that will cause all the changes in nature and our cosmos.

    Again, that message allegedly given on June 1, 2008 by Our Lady of Emmitsburg:

    My dear little children, praised be Jesus!

    Little ones, thank you for coming to pray. Know how much God loves you. He has given you tremendous gifts.

    Children, for the last 20 years I have oftentimes spoken of “change.” I have told you that there isno time for fear; there is only time for change. You must know by now that I have recently spoken of an arising of “two suns.” When you see the two suns on the horizon, you must know that this is a time of change, a time of this new beginning about which I have spoken to you before. After you see the two suns, there is only a short time before you will see a tremendous change in weather. After this, as you know, there are more changes to come.

    Children, God did not create only the Earth. God is the Creator of the cosmos, with its many galaxies, many orbits, different stars and different planets. God is the Creator! There are other planets like earth, far beyond your understanding.

    I can tell you this: Even your governments and the Church authorities already have knowledge of the stars aligning and its implications upon you. You must not fear but must be prepared, primarily spiritually.

    After awhile, you will see a time when there is another body in orbit around your solar system, coming between Earth and the Sun and leading to tremendous devastation. Approximately 60-70% of the world’s population, as you know it, will cease. Of those who survive, 60% of them coulddie of disease and starvation.

    Prayer is the answer! Prayer can mitigate much of anything to come. Love and unity must be at the forefront, not survival of the fittest. But I can assure you that secretly those in governmental positions around the world and Church authorities all know. As your Mother and with you aschildren of God, it is my duty to forewarn you and to draw you to my Son for protection.

    Look not too far before you will see two suns. Make my words known to all people: Life is important because God loves you. Those who are in control of the financial world think differently. But I your Mother know what true Life is!

    So prepare, spiritually prepare. You will always be with my Son if you trust. God has a special plan, a new beginning! Look to Him; and do notfear, but love with all your heart.

    I look to you, and I answer your prayers. Even if you are a sinner, and even if you were wrong, I come for your intercession. Now you must remove your “self” from your desires and look to help all people.

    Peace to you (fading whisper).

    (More about that message series can be found on this MoG forum):

    http://motheofgod.com/threads/professor-courtney-bartholomew.9623/
     
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  13. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    I believe, after a brief search, that Our Lady of Emmitsburg was not approved by the local diocese. This is from wikipedia (not necessarily the most unbiased and accurate of sites):

    "On October 8, 2008, Most Rev. Edwin O'Brien, Archbishop of Baltimore, issued a Pastoral Advisory condemning the messages and revelations as not authentic and cautioned Talone-Sullivan from continuing the distribution of the messages as gravely harmful to the spiritual life of the faithful.[9] This Pastoral Advisory was addressed "to the Christian faithful of the Archdiocese of Baltimore", and distributed to every Catholic Church in Maryland. The letter from Archbishop O’Brien warned Gianna Sullivan not to disseminate in any way, by her own person or by any other person, by electronic means or any other means, on any church property or in any public or private place any messages. He then warns others not to disseminate her messages because it is harmful to the church and he hopes that this will stop the confusion of the faithful."

    If I am wrong about Our Lady of Emmitsburg, I apologize. I have not looked into these messages. But everything else that you have researched seems entirely possible to me.
     
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  14. As I linked to above you can get the entirety of that situation beyond the "bites" at the fuller discussion of same on this thread:

    http://motheofgod.com/threads/professor-courtney-bartholomew.9623/
     
  15. This link may have been suggested already on this thread but I believe this explanation is the more convincing of the patterns of the authentic captures of this approaching "second sun" system. The earlier suggestion that had the possibility of a far more defined object that was, on its own, rising far above the sun's rise was just too different from all of these earlier captures....and it was explained later as Sirius which made far more sense.

     
  16. THANK YOU, EtA!
     
  17. You are welcome HH!

    There are several other rather good videos from the place where the one in my above comment was taken.

    This one, while somewhat tedious in the beginning, brings out some other interesting points like how art, with its own inside information can give insight to the future:



    and another one which provides some history of NASA's knowledge for some time and just why the public has been left uninformed (while it passes along some of the usual misinformation about the binocular telescope, "Lucifer", in AZ) Anyway, it fills in some gaps of purposely missing info. So, again, you be the judge:



    BTW, all of this info already or now occurring, I feel, certainly gives credence to the OLOE message given back in 2008.....esp. the understanding that our govts. and Church authorities know about these "alignments of planets", as well as the number of fish dying, etc. And, armed with all of these various facts, we know that God, through His Mother, does not stop telling us the remedies for at least mitigating the results if nothing else.....and we know what these are.
     
  18. Latest Luz de Maria message, Sep. 5, 2016 (a portion):

    Pray, My children, the threat to Humanity is approaching from the Universe, you will see it approaching. My children will be afraid.

    Hmmmm
     
  19. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    ETA, here is the latest video from Skywatch. It is really credible, even to those who have many doubts.



    By the way, I have contacted Antonio Yague with a few questions. I seem to recall him explaining that NASA and the other International Space Agencies have remained silent about the incoming planets. He is my favorite expert on the subject because he ties in scripture, church approved private revelation, and science.
     
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  20. Leo

    Leo Principalities

    If one is willing to check out the stars on a clear morning before sunrise in a dark area, Sirius can be confirmed via an app or knowledge of Orian's Belt. A variety of apps are available:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/star-planet-finder/id361753588?mt=8
     

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