Since I don't have your original source here I'm a bit at a loss, but one of the theories of hell is that it is at the center of the earth....so "living beings" could just be demons or perhaps the condemned. For instance: The "Lake of Fire" in Hell is in the Mantle beneath the Earth Geophysical scientists that have studied the volcano inform us the mantle under the earth is so hot that the rocks are in a molten or liquid state called the magma. This layer is where the "the lake of fire" may be located. During the eruption of a volcano the lava that flows out of the crater gives us the evidence that the "Lake of Fire" in hell is under the earth. Russian Scientists Drilling in Siberia Recorded Sounds from Hell The following article appeared in the well respected Finland newspaper "Ammenusastia " As a communist I don't believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now believe in hell," said Dr. Azzacove. "Needless to say we were shocked to make such a discovery. But we know what we saw and we know what we heard. And we are absolutely convinced that we drilled through the gates of hell!" Dr. Azzacove continued, ". . .the drill suddenly began to rotate wildly, indicating that we had reached a large empty pocket or cavern. Temperature sensors showed a dramatic increase in heat to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit." We lowered a microphone, designed to detect the sounds of plate movements down the shaft. But instead of plate movements we heard a human voice screaming in pain! At first we thought the sound was coming from our own equipment.""But when we made adjustments our worst suspicions were confirmed. The screams weren't those of a single human, they were the screams of millions of humans!" ....Lucifer fell from heaven and was brought down to "Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit" (Isa. 14:12-14). ....The Hebrew word "sheol" is hell. The "pit" is a hole on the earth (Num. 16:30-33; Isa. 5:14). One thing is for sure....these discussions certainly do lead to points beyond!!
Please be very careful with Pastor Enoch. He's a supporter of a notorious false seer, Mary Jane Even: http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?14,9717 Moreover, he declared himself to be the prophet Enoch, waiting for Elijah. Absurd.
Luz didn't describe demons, she described creatures similar to humans... It reminds me of this: http://www.thenewearth.org/InnerEarth.html I went through all of her messages, I suppose she revealed those details in a written or video interview.
Anyway, Hell is not a physical place reachable in our current state. Same for Heaven. Completely different "planes of existence". So, we could look in the whole universe, we will never see those places. Until the universe itself will be transformed.
4.327 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace on the Feast of St Peter and St Paul, June 29, 2016 http://pedroregis.com/pt-br/ Dear children, bend your knees in prayer for the Church of My Jesus. Whatever happens, do not stray from the path I have pointed out to you. Stay with the Church of My Jesus and listen to the teachings of His/Her True Magisterium. Do not stray from the truth. There is only one Church of My Jesus* (A Igreja do Meu Jesus é única). The Victory will be [that] of the Church of My Jesus. Difficult times will come, but not back down. I am by your side. When you feel the weight of the cross, call Jesus and He will take care of you. Seek strength in the words of My Jesus and in the Eucharist. Victory will come for the righteous. Those who remain faithful to the Church will see the Mighty Hand of God act. Onward with joy. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having permitted Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. * Literal translation: 'The Church of My Son Jesus is unique'
There are a number of issues here which I think need to be dealt with separately. 1. The Medjugorje Bolzano site linked to above is indeed a very useful source of material that I would not have discovered otherwise (e.g. Paratico, Giglio tra le Spine, Valeria Copponi). However, I do seriously question the 3-star ratings of reliability that they give to Jacarei (officially deemed non-supernatural by the local bishop) and Stefania Caterina, collaborator of Tomislav Vlasic (clearly false), as well as their promotion of 'Die Vorbereitung' (at 2-star level), a source whose messages imply that Pope Francis 'pretends' to be Christ's vicar but is in fact a deceiver. 2. We have addressed the question of Luz de Maria's contact with Giorgio Bongiovanni elsewhere on this site. What is certain is that she now disassociates herself completely from him (she told me this herself directly by email). 3. On a broader level, there is a need to distinguish at least five different categories as far as alleged prophets are concerned: i) 'true' prophets who give only the undiluted word that they have received from Heaven in all circumstances ii) those whose charism is authentic but who may occasionally make mistakes or allow their own thoughts (or subconscious) to interfere with their messages - something that is actually extremely difficult to avoid as it can happen without our being aware of it iii) well-intentioned and undoubtedly pious individuals with an active imagination who however have never had any direct prophetic experience and are simply providing 'private meditations', although they do so in good faith, sincerely believing that they are doing God's will iv) false prophets whose writings are a deliberate deception (e.g. by means of plagiarism) and whose words are purely human in origin v) false prophets whose writings are demonic in origin My own sense is that category i) is actually very, very limited, given that private revelation always occurs in the context of its reception by limited, sinful human beings and within the restrictions of human language. There are cases in which we are obviously dealing with iv) (Maria Divine Mercy) and v) (a vast amount of 'channelled' New Age writing which is more widely-read than we sometimes realize), but most of the time we are trying to separate groups II and III. Being in group ii absolutely does not make a source 'false' - it just means that it needs to be discerned wisely, with messages evaluated on a case-by-case basis rather than given carte blanche. This is where the role of a competent spiritual director and optimally also a structure of prayerful group accountability are critical. 'Group ii prophets' are individuals with a genuine calling who are doing their very best and need our support, not our condemnation (this is where I would personally put Luz de Maria, Francine Bériault, Sulema, Javier Viesca, Vassula, Fr Adam Skwarczynski ... Fr Gobbi, - and even St Catherine of Siena!). Human error affects us all and it is not a crime.
Pijon, do you know if she is referring to living beings or creatures?I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but this comment about creatures under the earth caught my eye. In the prayers of devotion to the Holy Face, there is a reference to creatures under the earth in the Golden Arrow prayer, which was dictated to Sr Mary of St Peter by Our Lord: THE "GOLDEN ARROW" PRAYER May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and unutterable Name of God be always praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified, in Heaven, on earth, and under the earth, by all the creatures of God, and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen. After receiving this prayer, Sister Mary of St. Peter was given a vision in which she saw the Sacred Heart of Jesus delightfully wounded by this "Golden Arrow", as torrents of graces streamed from It far the conversion of sinners. I thought that this was referring to those in purgatory, or perhaps insects, bats or other creatures that we haven't discovered deep in earth's cavities, but maybe it's more than that. I'll catch up on this thread when I have more time.
Yes, some of the stars seems to be assigned in a random way (we already noticed that when discussing about other seers in a different forum), but I wanted to give a link to the Luz de Maria description where you'll read that previously she described the presence of living beings toward the centre of the Earth (and not creatures, if I recall correctly).
I don't think God wants all his messengers to be a parrott repeating the same message over and over again. It may work for Pedro, but not most. Every messenger has a personality that the message bearer gives.
You're right, but the problem is always the same: discern between good and bad messengers. Consider Enoch, for example. I don't know how many here used to follow him, but I'm not so sure that most of them knew about the little details I pointed out previously. Because, as we know, the Devil is in the details.
THE "GOLDEN ARROW" PRAYER May the most holy, most sacred, most adorable, most incomprehensible and unutterable Name of God be always praised, blessed, loved, adored and glorified, in Heaven, on earth, and under the earth, by all the creatures of God, and by the Sacred Heart of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar. Amen. I thought the underlined means those in Hell for this would include "by all the creatures of God" for God created them too but they said no to God. I pray the Golden Arrow prayer every day.
4.333 Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, July 12, 2016 Dear children, I am your Sorrowful Mother and I suffer because of what is coming to you. Many chosen to defend the truth will turn back, and in the House of the Lord there will be great spiritual confusion. Bend your knees in prayer. Only through prayer will you be able to find strength for the trials to come. I ask you to be Defenders of Truth. Seek strength in the Words of My Jesus and in the Eucharist. Hard times will come for men and women of faith. Whatever happens, stay with Jesus. In this great battle between good and evil, your arm should be the Holy Rosary. Give me your hands and I will lead you to Victory. Courage. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4.334 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, July 14, 2016 Dear children, courage. There is no victory without the cross. The Lord has chosen you for a noble mission and expects much from you. Do not turn back. Difficulties exist, but My Jesus is at your side. Trust in Him and all will be well for you. Humanity has gone away from the Creator and My poor children are walking as blind leading the blind. Have confidence, faith and hope. Be light for those who live in darkness. Allow yourselves be led by My Son Jesus, and great shall be your victory. Do not lose heart. The Lord knows your needs. Wait on the Lord with joy. When you feel the weight of the cross, call for me. I am your Mother. I am with you in joy and in pain. After all the tribulation, the Lord will wipe away your tears and you will see the Mighty Hand of God acting. The Righteous will experience great joy. Onward. Seek strength in Prayer, in listening to the Word and in the Eucharist. The Lord is in control of everything. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4.335 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, July 16, 2016 Dear children, courage. Do not lose heart. My Jesus is with you. Do not turn back. He is your all and without Him you can do nothing. I am your Mother and I come from heaven to help you. I ask you to keep the flame of your faith alive. You are living in a time of tribulation and only those who remain in the truth will withstand the weight of the trials that are underway. I know each one of you by name and will speak to My Jesus for you. My Jesus will wipe away your tears. Do not be sad. Rejoice in the Lord and let His peace penetrate your hearts. I love you and will walk at your side. Open your hearts and hope in the Lord. Let His will be fulfilled in your lives. Onward. Do not fear. My Jesus has prepared for you that which human eyes have never seen. Humanity will drink the bitter cup of suffering because of sin, but the day of your liberation will come. The Earth will be transformed and the righteous will live happily. Bend your knees in prayer. When you are away, you become a target of the enemy. Seek strength in the Words of My Jesus and nourish yourselves with the precious nourishment of the Eucharist. Whoever is with the Lord will never experience the weight of defeat. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4.336 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace in Campo Maior / Piaui, July 19, 2016 Dear children, return to My Jesus. You are in the world but not of the world. Leave sin definitively and serve the Lord with gladness. I ask you to live out My appeals and that in everything you might seek to imitate My Son Jesus. Accept the Gospel lovingly. In the Gospel is the Truth of the Father manifested by My Son Jesus. There is no half-truth in what my Jesus taught you. Be attentive in order not to be deceived. You are living in a time of great spiritual confusion. Bend your knees in prayer. Love and defend the truth. Be docile and accept the Will of God for your lives. Do not lose your hope. Tomorrow will be better for men and women of faith. Do not turn back. My Jesus is your Way. Stay with Him and you will be saved. I do not want to force you, but listen to what I tell you. If you happen to fall, do not be discouraged. Seek strength in Jesus. His Word will be your strength and His Presence in the Eucharist will be the assurance of your victory. You will still have long years of hard trials, but the Final Victory will be the Lord's. The Great Miracle of God will attract many of my poor children who are afar off. This will be the time of the Definitive Triumph of My Immaculate Heart. Give me your hands and I will lead you to my Son Jesus. Forward without fear. Whatever happens, do not lose your faith. You are important for the realization of My plans. Help Me. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4.337 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, July 21, 2016 Dear children, do not fear. My Son Jesus needs your public and courageous witness. Humanity lives spiritually blind and My poor children live in doubt and uncertainty. Many chosen to defend the truth will flee in fear. The Church of My Jesus will drink the bitter cup of pain. The Great Persecution will come and My poor children will weep and lament. I suffer for what is coming to you. Bend your knees in prayer. Open your hearts and let the words of My Jesus transform you. Do not forget: from the one to whom much has been given, much will be demanded. My Lord will give to every one according to the deeds done in this life. Be attentive. It is in this world, and not in another, that you must testify of your faith. Forward in truth. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4.338 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, July 23, 2016 Dear children, what you have to do, do not leave for tomorrow. Tell everyone that this is the opportune time for the Great Return to the Lord. Leave sin and serve the Lord with gladness. Bend your knees in prayer. Humanity has become infected with sin and My poor children walk like the spiritually blind. Repent. Sincere repentance followed by Confession is the first step to attaining the Mercy of My Jesus. If men would be reconciled to God, very soon Peace would reign on the Earth. Return. Difficult times will come for men and women of faith. Stay with the truth and you will be saved. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4.339 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, July 26, 2016 Dear children, you are the Lord's and Him alone should you follow and serve. Walk in the Light of the Lord. If you live afar off, your soul will be in a deficiency of God's grace. Return to Him who loves you and is your everything. You are living in a time of great spiritual confusion. Bend your knees in prayer. I suffer for what is coming to you. The Land of the Holy Cross [i.e. Brazil] will drink the bitter cup of suffering. Listen attentively to what I tell you. This is the time that I announced to you in the past. Stay with Jesus. Whatever happens, do not stray from the path I have pointed out to you. You will still have long years of hard trials. When there is no room for the Lord, the enemy wins. Repent and accept with love the truth of My Jesus. Do not turn back. I am with you. This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.
July 19 and July 26, messages to Pedro Regis, Our Lady says that we will still have long years of trials ahead of us. I am sorry to hear this. In another thread, we were discussing possible timelines. So I picked up on this.
Yes HH, It felt like a blow to the 'hope' element of our faith to read we can look forward to maybe years of degeneration or whatever doom and gloom is being spoken of. Probably more than what is left of my lifetime. Ah well.
I don't know about these messages....... If you read his messages from 5 years ago, they say exactly the same thing. Very repetitive, almost word for word. Seems unnecessary for the Virgin Mary to give repetitive messages "to the world". In other apparitions like Fatima and Garabandal, the messages intended for the world as a whole are given once. And they are expected to be heard and distributed.
Messages from Our Lady- September 20th - 27th 4364 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, September 20, 2016 Dear children! Do not close your hearts to the Lord's grace. He has sent Me to you in order to call you to conversion and to bless you. Do not let the devil take you away from the way of grace. Now is the opportune time for your return to the God of Salvation and of Peace. I am your Mother and I come from heaven to tell you that this is the time when you must testify with your own lives to My presence in the midst of you . Open your hearts and declare to everyone that God is making haste. Bend your knees in prayer. Those who are far from prayer will not withstand the weight of the trials to come. You are heading towards a painful future. The Church of My Jesus will experience Calvary, but those who remain faithful to the end will receive the Lord's Great Reward. Courage. Love and defend the truth. The silence of the righteous strengthens the enemies of God. Onward. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4365 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, September 24, 2016 Dear children, God is in control of everything. Have confidence, faith and hope. I am your Mother and I will always be at your side, although you do not see me. Give the best of yourselves in the mission entrusted to you. What you have to do, do not leave for tomorrow. I know your needs and will always be near you. I will take your supplications to my Jesus. Rejoice, for your names are already engraved in My Immaculate Heart. Courage. My Jesus loves you and awaits you with open arms. Always seek Him in the Eucharist. Your victory is in Him. When all seems lost, humanity will find true peace. Men will see the Mighty Hand of God acting and all shall contemplate New heavens and a New Earth. Onward without fear. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. 4366 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, September 27, 2016 Dear children, calm your hearts. Do not allow the devil to steal your peace. I am your Mother and I come from heaven to bring you peace. Open your hearts and in everything be of the Lord. Order needs to be maintained in everything, but there should be no discord among brothers. Value the treasures that My Son Jesus has given you. Do not allow your actions and words to offend My Son Jesus. I love you as you are and ask you to be meek and humble of heart. Bend your knees in prayer and you will be blessed. Let the Lord's Light shine in your lives. The Definitive triumph of My Immaculate Heart will bring peace to men and women of faith. Make your contribution and you will be proclaimed Blessed of the Father. Onward without fear. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having permitted Me to gather you here once more. I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace. Translated by Peter B.
If read in context, Pedro's messages have said, "long years of trials" and "long years of suffering", not MANY. Have you ever heard the term, "I've had a long day at work"? It simply means it will be "hard" years, making it seem very long.
Yes, Fatima. I remember now that you have posted that meaning before. Not long time-wise, , just onerous. I also picked up on this: "What you have to do, do not leave for tomorrow." Blessed Mother, September 24, 2016. I have read these messages, and some of them I read twice, on a different site and here, but until now I did not pick up on those words about what you have to do, do not leave for tomorrow. I am taking that one to heart. It has caught my full attention.
I think what heaven is telling us at this moment is, stop arguing, complaining, criticizing the pope, the church events and whether they have happened or not etc....... because all of this distracts us from what God is trying to tell us and the urgency of it all. From all indication, "soon" is any moment now and not years. We need to ready our soul with prayer and fasting as this is the constant call from all current alleged messengers. If anyone is paying attention to the words between countries and the alignment of their nukes, it too is telling us we have little time left in the world as we have known it.
I came across this by accident on the website After The Warning, "On a Friday in 2016, Jerusalem will be destroyed during a nuclear event in the Middle East according to Mary, Mother of Jesus who appears at Anguera, Brazil to a man named Pedro Regis. She describes many events about to unfold. Jesus Christ will intervene on that particular Friday with a Warning or Correction of Conscience to every person, in the whole world." Can anyone confirm this? I don't think that I have seen anything from Pedro Regis that is so specific with a timeframe like this and I pray that this does not happen. Thank you.
