Alice Von Hildebrand Sheds New Light on Third Secret of Fatima

To paraphrase Sir John Harington:


"Apostasy doth never prosper: what is the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it apostasy."


GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!

 

All this is truly shocking. It's like 'the Invasion of the Bodysnatchers'. Who are they, really?

[Read your article, Brian. Fair play. However, as you point out, if things had been left to the clerics...].

 

Thank you....you are so right!

 

Something is very wrong. If, as some say that he is being misinterputed, then please Pope Francis, clear up the confusion! You can at least correct these issues...still waiting...."

 

I have seen the most-pro life priests in my area shunted aside and sidetracked in favor of liberals who take a flavor-of-the-month approach to Catholicism. (Racial justice and climate change are the two spring "adult faith formation" topics at the parish in my home town.) Pope Francis is not helping matters.

 

Yes Padrig,
How are we to understand what he is telegraphing to the world? It is the absolute last thing that one would expected from him....I haven't heard a explaniation yet that answers this.

 

I keep trying to find charitable, postive things to say. Very often I can come up with nothing.

 

Not only not helping...but becoming the problem for these good priest.

 

Is there any way of finding out whether the priests in a particular parish are members of that association?

 

Yes, Beth, Francis is actively undermining pro-lifer and faithful priests with his ambiguous statements. Fellow priests and the always outspoken (in my area) liberals are heartened. They double down on their agenda.

 

I have tried to stay neutral on this, but with each passing day, Im feeling like it is harder to defend these issues. I think more and more, for a lot of us, there are increasingly more questions than answers. What are we to think when the questions go unanswered? When no explaniation is forthcoming. If it is mere confusion, then please correct it...but I see no correction offered. Then you can only conclude that the statement stands ...am I wrong?

 

Oh...so true! As are the liberal priest in my corrupt diocese. They have cover now....sickening.

 

This same diocese also got rid of the respect life office immediately after the last corrupt bishop took control. It has gone down hill from then on. If the laypeople did not fight the fight...there would be no fight. Actually, the diocese thwarted the efforts of the ProLife community. We are in desperate need of a good bishop....especially now. It's horrible....no relief in sight. If the church is to be saved, it will need to be saved by the laypeople. Pity the good, few faithful priest left here...it's tragic for them...there are so few

 

I am not sure if there is a membership list. But if memory serves me there are over 500 priests attached to this group.



Constitution
1. Name: The Association of Catholic Priests (Ireland). (ACP)

2. Purpose of the association: To promote the aims and objectives, as laid out below:

Providing a voice for Irish Catholic priests at a time when that voice is largely silent and needs to be expressed.

Giving an opportunity for Irish priests to engage proactively with the crucial debates taking place in Irish society

Full implementation of the vision and teaching of the Second Vatican Council, with special emphasis on:

• the primacy of the individual conscience.
• the status and active participation of all the baptised.
• the task of establishing a Church where all believers will be treated as equal.

A redesigning of Ministry in the Church, in order to incorporate the gifts, wisdom and expertise of the entire faith community, male and female.

A re-structuring of the governing system of the Church, basing it on service rather than on power, and encouraging at every level a culture of consultation and transparency, particularly in the appointment of Church leaders.

A culture in which the local bishop and the priests relate to each other in a spirit of trust, support and generosity.

A re-evaluation of Catholic sexual teaching and practice that recognizes the profound mystery of human sexuality and the experience and wisdom of God’s people.

Promotion of peace, justice and the protection of God’s creation locally, nationally and globally.

Recognition that Church and State are separate and that while the Church must preach the message of the Gospel and try to live it authentically, the State has the task of enacting laws for all its citizens.

Liturgical celebrations that use rituals and language that are easily understood, inclusive and accessible to all.

Strengthening relationships with our fellow Christians and other faiths.

Full acceptance that the Spirit speaks through all people, including those of faiths other than Christian and those of no religious faith, so that the breath of the Spirit will flow more freely.

3. Membership: Membership of the ACP is open to all priests, those working in Ireland and also those working abroad.

4. Associate Membership: This is open to other Catholics who wish to join.

5. Becoming a member: To become a member a person can register on the website, or give their name and details to any of the leadership team.

6. To cease being a member a person can unsubscribe on the website, or inform one of the leadership team in writing.

7. Membership fee: This is currently €20, but may be changed by the leadership team, with the approval of an AGM. The funds of the association can only be used for the purposes of the association. A statement of account will be given at the AGM each year.

8. There will be a leadership team of five. Each person on the team may serve for three years, with the possibility of being elected for further three. Nobody can serve on the Leadership Team for more than six consecutive years. A leader may resign before the end of his term if he so wishes.

9. Leaders will be chosen at the AGM, which will be held annually.

10. An extraordinary general meeting may be called by two thirds of the members at 21 days notice, or by the Leadership Team.

 

Wow!

Cardinal Ratzinger: We Have Not Published the Whole Third Secret of Fatima

 

In fairness, I would not lay blame on Pope Francis. There are certainly many in the clerical Church who seem lukewarm, at best, about the evil that is abortion, but I don't consider our Pope one of those. Perhaps he isn't perfect, but we shouldn't expect him to be. Still, I can recall quite a few statements from him quite explicitly and forcefully condemning abortion, nor must we forget the pro-life ethos he stitched into the very core of the admittedly over-long and excessively environmentalistic Laudato Si.

 

What Cardinal Ratzinger said regarding the content of the unpublished part of the Third Secret doesn't match what the Von Hildebrands said about the apostasy coming from the top of the Church. Or am I missing something?

 

Does this help..

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Not really. Although pictures are good, sometimes the message still manages to go over my head. You might need big fat crayons to spell it out so I can understand.

If Cardinal Razinger was opening up to Fr. Dollinger, it seems strange that he didn't mention the part about the apostasy starting at the top, unless the implication is that the Pope who sanctioned the novus ordu was an apostate. Which Pope sanctioned it? Was it St. John XX111 or St. John Paul 11? Apostates don't get to be saints.

 

Couldn't it say both?