Testing all prophecy and retaining what is good is what scripture itself teaches. "Approved" messages by the Catholic Church are those have already to a large degree been manifested or had miracles associated with them, which the Church recognizes as of Divine origin. Many of the "approved" ones, such as Fatima and Akita are still pending major catastrophic events to take place, while others which bring about a prophetic consensus will not be 'approved' status until they are fully manifested. Most will choose to ignore what heaven is revealing in 'real time' prophetic events taking place, while few others will do what scripture teaches and test them . For me, it is not a question of whether heaven is sending messages for these end times, it is discerning which ones are from God and which ones are not. This has been the pattern of God's way throughout the old and new testaments of the bible and I am very thankful to God for this, as his love gives ample time for those with 'ears to hear' to prepare.
Fatima,.. My point is: To be fair & honest in "reporting" what some seer or visionary or cleric said about the BVM or anybody/thing else it should be stated "Up-Front" that the subject in question Is or Is Not approved by the Catholic Church! We have many new folks coming on line here and elsewhere that need not be confused ... at a time when Mass Confusion is Everywhere!! I, firmly, believe that we must be careful about what we "Broadcast" as "Truth" .. OK!?? GOD SAVE ALL HERE!! .......... and Merry 11th Day of Christmas View attachment 4003
"For the Lord God doth nothing without revealing His secret to His servants the prophets." Amos 3:7 Pray to the Holy Spirit for discernment when reading messages from visionary's and those receiving locutions. The Holy Spirit will not deceive you if you are in the state of Grace.
I understand what you are saying and respect where you are coming from. However, many of heavens messages (approved and alleged) go unheard of and worse yet heard of an ignored to ones own peril. Many, if not most, do not have a sound grasp of the teachings of the unchanging truths of the faith and would lack the knowledge, understanding and wisdom from the Holy Spirit to discern true and false messages. Even those of us who have studied and discerned messages for over 30 years must test the spirit of alleged messages and I don't mean reading just a few of them to make ones assessment of being true or false. It takes much time, prayer and discernment, which very-very few give to this end. Most do not have discernment (a gift of the Holy Spirit) to gage what heaven is revealing. No one, including myself has a 100% assurance of any alleged message from above, but ignoring authentic messages from above is very hurtful to the hearts of Jesus and Mary as they have painfully expressed. How many icons and statues of the blessed mother have cried real tears because no one will listen? I wonder what people of Noah's time were told by him? They laughed at him for 40 years before "D"day. He convinced no one accept his family. Jonah did not want his task from God, because he did not want laughed at. Yet after living for 3 day's in the belly of a whale he figured it was better to do the will of God and be thought to be a fool then to suffer God's punishment for not warning God's people. Then there was John the Baptist. How many people did he convince to repent? None of these prophets needed their messages 'approved' by a synagogue or a church before they preached repentance or else.... I think we are in the same period of history where we need to listen to heaven's messengers and not be afraid to pass these on to whomever will listen in a prudent way. I am not an 'expert', but like others on the MOG forum feel the Holy Spirit will not deceive those who's hearts want to hear His voice and that of the Blessed Mother. There are several holy men and women of God (priests, theologians, mystics and seers) to help in this discernment process as well. This is the consensus of prophecy that I speak of. Some may choose to not listen, others will choose to listen. In the end, I think those who tried will be blessed.
Fatima! I say again! I have nothing against your posted messages or any, Pending Vatican Approval, messages!! I just want you and others to state ... "Right-Off"... that posted messages ARE or ARE NOT approved. That, to me anyway, seems like a reasonable request/requirement..... and will avoid confusion or worse! GOD GIVE US DISCERNMENT & SAVE ALL HERE!!
According to my studies, Our Lady of Anguera is describing two persecutions in the messages given to Pedro Regis. The first will come through war, by Russia and some Muslims nations. The Second and final one, will be operated by the Antichrist. I personally don't think that Russia will start invading other countries and destroying churches during this year, nor that the Antichrist will start the persecution during this year. This will mainly be the year of the great and most destructive terrorist attacks, and we'll hear the first true rumors of war.
The Church created a commission which has been studying the case of Pedro since years. You could find the declarations of many catholic priests approving these messages, though. Anyway, the Church hasn't officially approved these apparitions, yet. The same thing is happening to Medjugorje. In the meanwhile, you could read the most valuable message given by Our Lady to Pedro Regis: http://www.scribd.com/doc/28689222/MESSAGE-458-Our-Lady-Queen-of-Peace-Anguera-Bahia-Brazil If you find something wrong in that message, then you would have all the rights to consider those messages as false. But I'm confident that you won't find a single word against the Catholic Doctrine. Please note: I don't want to affirm that you consider those messages to be false.
This is a good suggestion. I hope those who follow false prophets, would consider that, too. But, unfortunately, that almost never happens.
Messages from Pedro Regis Message of Our Lady of Anguera--about Scientific Discoveries and Brazil-they are summarized - http://www.apelosurgentes.com.br/pt-br/cms/mensagens-sobre-descobertas-cientificas-e-sobre-o-brasil … A breakthrough will occur and many will rejoice.The cure will come.God is Merciful Father and does not abandon his children.Be meek and humble of heart.Your kindness will attract holiness… There will be a breakthrough in Israel and the men stunned.Listen to the voice of God.He wants to talk to you.Open your hearts. Dear children, a breakthrough will be made in the Land of Santa Cruz.Will be for the good of humanity and scientists will rejoice.I know that the Lord will not abandon you.Trust Him and you will be great in faith. (California? Spain? Brazil?-all have a city named Santa Cruz) Dear children, the day will come that the opponent will spread her errors on earth and there will be great contempt morally.The Church will live moments of great persecutions and carry a heavy cross.For a certain period, the Church will walk without Peter, but My Jesus is faithful to his promise. Courage.I'll be by your side.I ask you to not stray you from prayer.Humanity is sick and needs healing.Turn to the Lord.Come to the sacrament of confession and you will be healed spiritually.I live in the grace of the Lord.Do not defile yourselves with the things of the world.You are the Lord’s.Only He should be followed and served.Wise men will make great discoveries.The universe will come to power that will brighten the earth. Bend your knees in prayer.I repeat: pray, pray, pray Wise men will be surprised: a devastating fire will take place within the earth and many will experience a heavy cross.I suffer because of what awaits you.Listen to me Humanity has become spiritually poor because people have gotten away from prayer.Be prepared.Your cross will be heavy.Seek strength in the Lord.Eat ye the word of God and the Eucharist. Amazing facts draw the attention of men.An explosion in the universe will cause great astonishment to wise men.The earth will suffer. My poor children will experience a heavy cross. It takes all this to happen, but eventually you will come to the great victory of God. Forward without fear. Don't get away from prayer.Your strength is in the Lord.Do not stray from His grace.Days of suffering will come to mankind.God will and wise men will announce the arrival of what will despair and concern many.In many areas of the world the fire will spread everywhere.I suffer because of what awaits you. Listen to me.I do not want to force you, but what I say should be taken seriously.Be faithful to My appeals. I repeat: pray, pray, pray.The earth will pass through great and painful transformations.Men will be confused, because it put in place of the Creator.There will be inexplicable phenomena on earth and the wise men will not find answers. (what is IT?) The inhabitants of a great city of the Land of Santa Cruz will live moments of great tribulation.The wise men will announce and every population will flee.The discovery of the large gap called the world's attention.Turn to the Lord.It is with open arms waiting for you. (California? Spain? Brazil? All have a city named Santa Cruz) Dear children, the great sign of God leave them confused wise men.Seawater lose their natural flavor.When God speaks want to be heard.Mankind will face major crises.O men, turn ye fast.What I tell you is not to cause you fear, but that you may be prepared.I am your sorrowful Mother and I know what awaits you.Pray. Dear children, a region of Brazil desolate.The wise men will announce and my poor children will abandon their homes.Pray.Great suffering will come to you.TheAlbaniawill experience a heavy cross.I suffer because of what awaits you. A large explosion will cause terrible disasters and earthquakes destroy many regions of the Earth. An existing fault line in Brazil will cause destruction in many regions. Wise men do not know.Terrorists will act in the land of the womb and the pain will be great for my poor children.Shall be taken in Brazil.Turn you while there is time.Do not live in sin.This is the message I give you today on behalf of the Trinity.
Land of Santa Cruz = Brazil Land of Santa Fé = Argentina In Pedro Regis messages the land of Santa Cruz is always Brazil. It is not a city. It is the country.
Many question and unfortunately few time to answer them all, but it should be interesting to note that actually in Brazil there is a fault which hasn't been discovered, yet. When earthquakes will hit the world, scientists will warn the Brazilian population about the existence of that fault, and many will try to flee. That's the meaning of the specific message you posted. Regarding the cure, it could be connected to the virus which will be spread by the terrorists causing millions of deaths (I personally think so), or to heal from the Zika virus, considering the recent events and the fact that it started right there in Brazil.
4,269 – Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, transmitted in 2/27/2016 Dear children, I am your Sorrowful Mother and I suffer because of what is coming for you. Do not be discouraged. Have courage, faith and hope. Love the truth and defend it. You live in a time of Sorrows. Do not live separated from prayer. I ask you to keep alight the flame of your faith. You are moving toward a sorrowful future. The devil will cause great spiritual damage in the Church of my Jesus, such as has never happened since its Foundation. Be alert. The Truth of my Jesus is maintained in its completeness only in His True Church. Pray. Seek strength in the Eucharist and in the Words of my Jesus. Listen to the True Magisterium of the His Church and you will be saved. I love you and I want to help you. I know your needs and I will plead with my Jesus for you. Go forward without fear. Whoever is with the Lord will never be defeated. This is the message which I transmit you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for allowing me to reunite you here once again. I bless you in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Stay in Peace.
She's describing the period of the false church, guided by the proud false king (antipope), who will "throw out" the sacraments, attacking the Eucharistic.
Well, these actually are the most awesome and authentic messages you could ever read in our times (they're still going). This is why I really enjoyed spending many hours reading them all .
There is a message of Pedro Regis that is said people will find a tomb of Jesus and it will cause a great desbelief in resurrection. That event will be manipulated by scientists and even catholic people (masons). There is the same message to Agnés Marie in France in 90's.
If this is true, it coincides with the messages to Verne Dagenais in GSWYL, which speaks in-depth of this period. This is the abomination of desolation that scripture speaks of. However, this 'spiritual damage done to his Church' period spoken of in the Pedro message could be a precursor to the period of the AC.
I think we can anticipate many deceptions coming from the devil, prior to the time of the Antichrist. That is why our Lady keeps reminded, in many of hear messages, to keep the faith and do not fall from what you have been taught. If we can withstand the early deceptions, it will be a training period leading up the the greatest deceptions of the Antichrist.
