US Presidential election 2016

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  1. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Isn't that what Obama started.

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  2. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

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  3. MarysChild

    MarysChild Principalities

    But he knows many people are too stupid or "non-judgmental" to do anything other than take him at face value.
     
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  4. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Yes...it works for him every time!

    You have got to ask yourself...how does this guy get away with this..why are the folks so deceived?


    Wow...it makes you really worried...that someone like him could get this far...diabolitical....
     
  5. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    I'm not sure what Father Longenecker has written on other topics, but he gets it wrong on Trump and his supporters. It is clear from his article that he is a Rubio supporter. Since that is the case, I would like to know how he justifies supporting Marco Rubio's immoral and unjust foreign policy, particularly in Syria, a foreign policy that is directly responsible for the deaths of innocent Catholics in Syria at the hands of Western proxy "Rebels." No thanks, Father Longenecker, I won't be taking political advice from you or the warmonger Rubio.

    Father Longenecker virtually accuses Trump and "the Mob" that supports him of working for the Father of Lies and "being part of the problem." How charitable and non-judgemental of you Father. How hypocritical of you to accuse Trump of the very things you are guilty of doing in your own melodramatic, hit-piece article on Trump and his supporters. Are you that eager to hand Hillary the election, Father, that you would destroy the best chance of beating her? Between your comments against Trump, Father, and those of the Pope, I am beginning to think that there is a coordinated effort to destroy Trump and hand Hillary the election.
     
  6. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Well, darn, it looks like Rubio told a big, fat lie in the debate last night:
    According to court records and testimony, the Trump-Equitable joint venture hired Kaszycki and Sons Contractors Inc. at a fee of $775,000 to raze Bonwit Teller's 10-story flagship department store. Demolition Workers Local 95 of the Laborers' International Union of North America had a collective bargaining agreement with the Kaszycki company, of Herkimer, N.Y., requiring it to pay specified wages to union and nonunion workers at the Trump Tower site and to make additional payments for each worker into the local's pension and medical insurance funds.... http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/14/n...p-faces-yet-another-delay.html?pagewanted=all

    When Rubio mentioned this last night, I knew it had to be contractor related. This kind of stuff happens all the time. When you are in business, you hire contractors to do jobs like this. Contractors hire their workers or already have them in place or sometimes even hire sub-contractors. It's a business hiring a business. They have their own employee files and records and you do not have access to their employee files. The union guys went after the guy with the money...Trump. Typical.

    This type of thing still happens but was even more prevalent thirty some odd years ago. Just the fact that Trump hired that contractor would put him in the line of fire. So true story, but then again not entirely true as Trump did not hire the illegals personally.
     
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  7. MarysChild

    MarysChild Principalities

    He probably doesn't support Rubio's foreign policy. It's about finding the least bad candidate, and the first requirement to find someone who is authentically pro-life. All who aren't are eliminated immediately. It isn't about finding perfection. It doesn't exist.

    Why do you think Trump has the best chance of beating her when the polls all show that Trump does the worst of any candidate against her?
     
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  8. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Trump Could Win It All

    A new survey shows a sizable number of Democrats ready to defect from Hillary Clinton to Donald Trump.

    Nearly 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they'd cross sides and vote for Trump, while a small number, or 14 percent, of Republicans claim they'd vote for Clinton. When those groups were further broken down, a far higher percentage of the crossover Democrats contend they are "100 percent sure" of switching than the Republicans.

    When the firmed showed respondents the Trump ad, and assessed their responses to each moment of it, it found "the primary messages of Trump's ad resonated more than Democratic elites would hope."

    About 25 percent of Democrats "agree completely" that it raises some good point, with an additional 19 percent agreeing at least "somewhat."

    Mercury CEO Ron Howard, a Democrat whose firm works for candidates in both parties and corporate clients, concedes, "We expected Trump's first campaign spot to strongly appeal to Republican Trump supporters, with little impact – or in fact negative impact – on Democratic or independent voters."

    He continues, "The challenge to Hillary, if Trump is the nominee and pivots to the center in the general election as a problem-solving, independent-minded, successful 'get it done' businessman is that Democrats will no longer be able to count on his personality and outrageous sound bites to disqualify him in the voters' minds." http://www.usnews.com/opinion/artic...ald-trump-is-a-real-threat-to-hillary-clinton




    Trump has tremendous crossover appeal and without the ability to draw in the so-called "Reagan Democrats" as well as Independents, Republicans will never defeat Hillary. Trump will also decimate Hillary in the debates and on that strength alone might just win the election, never mind that he gets the crossover vote.
     
  9. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Haha...there are no Reagan democrats...that's been over for almost twenty five years! Those were CONSERVATIVE democrats...they left that godless leftist party a long time ago.

    No, his crossover is with the dems who hate Hillary and sanders and who consider trump the next best liberal running! And they would be right...he is a progressive! They will love him if he is elected...they will have the Supreme Court of their dreams...stacked with progressive judges that would make Scalia turn over in his grave...regardless of what that con artist trump is selling you...wake up.

    How do you like you eggs?

    You'll be wearing them all over your face.
     
  10. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    More Romney Super PAC inspired talking points coming from Beth.

    The numbers don't lie, Beth. Trump will be the nominee - assuming the RNC doesn't do anything stupid - and Trump will defeat Hillary in a landslide.
     
  11. MarysChild

    MarysChild Principalities

    OK, I enjoyed your article, but the actual polls still show Trump getting throttled by Hillary, and doing the worst of any GOP candidate against her. I am sure quite a few Dems will vote for him because he's basically a Dem himself. The question is - how many Republicans will sit out and not vote for him? My guess is about 20% of all Republicans that would normally vote for the GOP candidate will be voting for the Constitution Party or something.
     
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  12. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Sorry to disappoint Richard...but I work for the unborn babies,,,not any political entity. Got that wrong! Your assumptions are as wrong as your candidate, trump.

    Second, if you are correct that Trump has this election, then please tell me...why in the heck do you end fifty percent of your post with ," keep that up and you will help elect Hillary" rhetoric!

    Look, if your progressive, liberal loving, con artist candidate Trump is going to win...then kick back, relax and let it go.If he is so wonder and fantastic...he doesn't need you defending him against his record. None of it matters! Trump can do or say anything....trump said he could literally shoot someone....and folks will still support him. So please, Please, don't lose any sleep about what I say....your guy is HUGE....HE is going to win BIG!dont believe me? Just ask him :)
     
  13. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Trump said that this organization is doing great things for women....can I ask you...do you think that any organization that murders babies and bids out their baby parts could be considered "good" on any level?

    As Christians...do we not view this as diabolical? Do we ever support anyone who would say, " they do great thing"??????

    If the answer is yes....this nation is gone...


     
  14. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Because if God forbid Rubio or Cruz is the nominee, Hillary would easily win the general election . There is an establishment faction within the RNC that would probably prefer Hillary to Trump because under Hillary some of their interests - especially on trade and foreign policy - would be secured.
     
  15. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    The Donald’s Odds Against Hillary

    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    In a Hillary Clinton vs. Donald Trump race – which, the Beltway keening aside, seems the probable outcome of the primaries – what are the odds the GOP can take the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court?

    If Republicans can unite, not bad, not bad at all.

    Undeniably, Democrats open with a strong hand.

    There is that famed “blue wall,” those 18 states and D.C. with a combined 242 electoral votes, just 28 shy of victory, that have gone Democratic in every presidential election since 1988.

    The wall contains all of New England save New Hampshire; the Acela corridor (New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware and Maryland); plus Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois and Wisconsin in the Middle West; and the Pacific coast of California, Oregon, Washington – and Hawaii.

    Changing demography, too, favors the Democrats.

    Barack Obama carried over 90 percent of the black vote twice and in 2012 carried over 70 percent of the Hispanic and Asian votes. These last two voting blocs are the fastest-growing in the USA.

    A third Democratic advantage is simple self-interest.

    Half the nation now receives U.S. government benefits – in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, student loans, rent subsidies, school lunches and Earned Income Tax Credits, etc.

    Folks who rely on government benefits are unlikely to rally to a party that promises to cut government. And as half the nation pays no income tax, these folks are unlikely to be thrilled about tax cuts.

    Bernie Sanders, who promises free college tuition and making Wall Street and the 1 percent pay for it, knows his party.

    While these realities of national politics would seem to point to inexorable Democratic dominance in coming decades, there are worms in the apple.

    First, there is the strangely shrunken and still shrinking Democratic leadership base. As the Daily Caller reports, under Obama, Democrats have lost a net of more than 900 state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 U.S. House and 13 Senate seats. Such numbers suggest a sick party.

    Republican strength on Capitol Hill is again as great as it was in the last years of the Roaring ’20s.

    Second, due to Trump, viewership of the Republican debates has been astronomical – 24 million for one, 23 million for another.

    The turnout at Trump rallies has been unlike anything seen in presidential primaries; and what’s more, the GOP voter turnout in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada set new records for the party.

    Yet voter turnout for the Clinton-Sanders race has fallen, in every contest, below what it was in the Clinton-Obama race in 2008.

    Bernie’s millennials aside, the energy and excitement has been on the Republican contest, often a sign of party ascendancy.

    Not only would Trump at the top of the GOP ticket assure a huge turnout (pro and con), he is the quintessence of the anti-Washington, anti-establishment candidate in a year when Americans appear to want a wholesale housecleaning in the capital.

    As a builder and job creator, Trump would surely have greater cross-party appeal to working-class Democrats than any traditional Republican politician. Moreover, when Bernie Sanders goes down to defeat, how much enthusiasm will his supporters, who thrilled to the savaging of Wall Street, bring to the Clinton campaign?

    This is the year of the outsider, and Hillary is the prom queen of Goldman Sachs. She represents continuity. Trump represents change.

    Moreover, on the top Trump issues of immigration and trade, the elites have always been the furthest out of touch with the country.

    In the 1990s, when Bill Clinton fought the NAFTA battle, the nation rebelled against the deal, but the establishment backed it. When Republicans on Capitol Hill voted for most-favored-nation status for China, year in and year out, did Republican grass roots demand this, or was it the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Business Roundtable?

    On immigration, where are the polls that show Middle Americans enthusiastic about increasing the numbers coming? Where is the majority demanding amnesty or open borders?

    The elites of Europe are as out of touch as America’s.

    Angela Merkel, Time’s Person of the Year in 2015, is at risk of being dumped in 2016 if she does not halt the next wave of Middle Eastern refugees who will be arriving on Europe’s shores when the seas calm in the spring in the Aegean and the Mediterranean.

    If we believe the immigration issue Trump has seized upon is explosive here, look to Europe. In the Balkans and Central Europe, even in Austria, the barriers are going up and the border guards appearing.

    Mass migration from the Third World to the First World is not only radicalizing America. It could destroy the European Union. Anger over any more migrants entering the country is among the reasons British patriots now want out of the EU.

    America is crossing into a new era. Trump seems to have caught the wave, while Clinton seems to belong to yesterday.

    A note of caution: This establishment is not going quietly. http://buchanan.org/blog/the-donalds-odds-against-hillary-124874
     
  16. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    Yesterday, I heard Laura Ingram say on her radio program, Cruz was the only one who voted to defund Planned Parenthood.

    I know Rubio has in the past but where is he now? He was a no show for this important vote (especially
    with the killing/baby parts selling PP videos).
     
  17. MarysChild

    MarysChild Principalities

    It's true - he should have been there. But it was known that the budget bill was going to pass, so it didn't affect anything. The bill passed 65-33 with Rubio and one other not present.
     
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  18. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Cruz is the most conservative , anti moderate establishment , pro constitution, ProLife, pro religious freedom candidate of all of the viable contenders. Rubio is the next best candidate. Trump is a progressive nightmare.

    Super Tuesday could decide if we go left and continue the fundamental transformation that Obama started, or we remain a constitutional government. This will effect the world...not just the USA.

    Trump is a dangerous man...his history proves that he cannot be trusted.

    You have the choice right now to support Cruz or Rubio. If they lose, America is gone....the Supreme Court goes progressive / left, and our religious freedom is history...

    Please, vote for Cruz or Rubio....a conservative Supreme Court is at risk with any other choice.
     
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  19. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Funny...even the Democrats know who the more committed conservative is...they rightfully fear that Ted Cruz has real, conservative convictions.

    They admit that Trump is not to be feared...because he has no core convictions other than helping himself.

    Take a look...

     
  20. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie





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    Max Lucado: Trump doesn’t pass the decency test

    Policy aside, shouldn't we all demand that our president at least be decent?

    I don’t know Mr. Trump. But I’ve been chagrined at his antics. He ridiculed a war hero. He made a mockery of a reporter’s menstrual cycle. He made fun of a disabled reporter. He referred to a former first lady, Barbara Bush, as “mommy” and belittled Jeb Bush for bringing her on the campaign trail. He routinely calls people “stupid” and “dummy.” One writer catalogued 64 occasions that he called someone “loser.” These were not off-line, backstage, overheard, not-to-be-repeated comments. They were publicly and intentionally tweeted, recorded and presented.


    Such insensitivities wouldn’t be acceptable even for a middle school student body election. But for the Oval Office? And to do so while brandishing a Bible and boasting of his Christian faith?

    I’m a pastor. I don’t endorse candidates or place bumper stickers on my car. But I am protective of the Christian faith. If a public personality calls on Christ one day and calls someone a “bimbo” the next, is something not awry? And to do so, not once, but repeatedly, unrepentantly and unapologetically? We stand against bullying in schools. Shouldn’t we do the same in presidential politics?
     
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