Sign after sign after sign...

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Torrentum, Jul 30, 2014.

  1. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    I was waiting for a response...Some times you have to poke the bull to get a response

    I was actually sad when they gave you the boot (twice).

    You, Mac and Brian keeps things interesting.

    Brother al



     
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  2. Richard67

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    Footage of the attacks on women in Cologne by ISIS (oops, I meant "migrants"). Truly horrific:

     
  3. Basto

    Basto Guest

    Port.

    According to tradition, the Christianization of the Iberian Peninsula is very ancient, it was the mission of Saint James the Greater (São Tiago Maior), brother of Saint John the Evangelist. The Iberian kingdoms were responsible for the evangelization of the most of what is known today as the Catholic world outside Europe. At the present moment, here and almost in everywhere, the Christianity is being paganized in large scale with the complicity, or even the active work, of our clerics. That’s a fact, not an opinion, however I believe you think that’s all right, perhaps you even recommend that way (calling it different names, of course) but I don’t.


    Santiago de Compostela Cathedral, 2010, Botafumeiro Ritual
     
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  4. Blue Horizen

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    I don't really understand how you've extrapolated this from my observations Basto.

    My small observation is that the Catholic Church over time very effectively absorbs and "baptises" foreign and even pagan elements into its life. This is how it transforms the world.

    Some on the forum believe this is highly irregular and the Church should have some sort of inviolable brain-blood barrier lest it becomes infected and corrupted.
     
  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Western European Civilisation is at a cross-roads. The establishment politicians and bureaucrats, almost all the mainstream media, the feminists and other victim lobbies have clearly nailed their colours to the mast. Are the mass of people going to surrender to this treason?
     
  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    "...the Catholic Church over time very effectively absorbs and "baptises" foreign and even pagan elements into its life. This is how it transforms the world."

    While there may be some partial truth in this, I would have thought that things were entirely the other way around.
     
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  7. Basto

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    My pessimism stands exactly on the things where your optimism resides Blue, because where I see more destruction you can always see some new achievements, we have different understandings on what is God’s project for His Church. I’m sure that one of us has misunderstood the Holy Spirit and – please don’t take it as an offense – I hope that wasn’t me, but I admit that I should practice some more praying and penance, just in case I am wrong.

    Despite some intellectual admiration, which makes you quite interesting and funny, I have you as one of the MOG’s members with less ability to influence me. However, I would like to know your opinion about something, if you don’t mind.

    Regarding the historical moment that we are living in, in which way could the editorial criterial of this movie be more pleasant for (1) the masonic architects of the NWO and (2) for the Satanists? This is not a rhetorical question neither a provocation, give me practical examples, I’m just trying to understand our enemy!



    I have already thought about that myself and I don’t think that any of those two lobbies could be any happier in the present historical moment, in the actual state of evolution of the people’s minds. (1) If it was said directly, word by word, that Jesus and Buda are the same, and those religions are equals, it could be straightly rejected, being counterproductive for their final goals. (2) No one would expect an extra character saying “I have confidence in Baphomet” because that’s not the usual Serpent’s methodology, is it? Then I must conclude that the video was just a bad and dangerous idea, unless the next one will contradict that first impression, something like a red herring, planned to present Jesus Christ, crucified and resurrected, as the only way to salvation, the True Love.
     
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  8. Basto

    Basto Guest

    I agree.
     
  9. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    What I don't get is all these liberals/feminists/humanists are fighting for Syrian Muslims...but what they don't understand is that the islamist HATE everything they stand for. There is no liberals/feminists/humanists in islam. They are scared and hiding.

    If you haven't noticed there are no liberal or moderate groups in the middle east.

    WHY?

    Because they cut off their heads.

    Islam only understands on thing...Power. If they see weakness, they take advantage of it. Europe is in for a big awakening when arms start filtering into the country.

    May Gods Will be Done
     
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  10. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    What islam and humanists do have in common... is that they are both based on the spirit of the wold. That means they have the same starting point. That is why they are working together. They are working together to cause chaos.

    And the liberals don't even know what is happening. Once muslims take over the humanists will be scared and go into hiding.

    :(
     
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  11. DeGaulle

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    Both Islam and liberalism have it in common that they are in tune with the spirit of the world. The difference is that, for all its faults, Islam at least deals with the real, actual world. Liberalism is dealing with a world entirely of its own imaginative invention. Liberalism is more precisely a mental illness.

    Muslims are raping women, it is wrong but a natural, real act that is typical of the barbarian. This is incomprehensible to the liberal who can't understand why events have not followed the intended course of everybody just getting along but can't accept that our Mahomedans are not equal to us in terms of how to behave in a civilised society (remember, for liberals, all cultures are equal), so he has to put the blame on the victims or on men in general.

    I expect that Europe will eventually become a war-zone, with both opposing sides tripping over themselves to hang any liberal they can find.
     
  12. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    House Speaker, Paul Ryan is going to have two sisters from the Little Sisters of the Poor sit with him this evening at the State of the Union address. :D

    Here is more good news:

    Thomas More Law Center Files Brief in Supreme Court Declaring Neither Court Nor Government Can Determine What Is a Sin

    The Thomas More Law Center (TMLC), a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, yesterday, filed a friend of the court brief in the case of Zubik v. Burwell, in support of seven non-profit organizations including the Little Sisters of the Poor who claim they cannot comply with the Department of Health and Human Services’ mandate (“HHS Mandate”) because even the so called “accommodations” make them actively complicit in the sin of abortion. TMLC’s brief asserts that the Court is not the arbiter of sacred Scripture and, therefore, cannot determine whether or not an act constitutes a sin; it can only determine whether the government’s penalties for refusal to complete the sinful act are a substantial burden on religious liberty.

    https://www.thomasmore.org/
     
  13. Dolours

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    It's very simple. The social liberals/economic conservatives don't want to tell people that they need to have more children for society to renew itself, and they need immigrant labour for competition in the jobs market to keep wages low. The socialists don't want to tell people that they need to have more children for society to renew itself and to shore up their electoral base. Arab Spring types of upheaval and economic meltdown lead to mass emigration of people to richer countries that have civil and human rights not only enshrined in law but actually enforced.

    The Muslim Brotherhood has some kind of charter or constitution (I have seen it on the internet but haven't time to look for a direct link now) that advises its members to join left leaning parties and organisations. A quick look across Europe will show you that this strategy works. The fiscal conservatives get plenty of cheap immigrant labour and the socialists get plenty of new voters. This worked well for the host countries as long as there was enough work for the indigenous working class, they had someone to look down on and there weren't enough immigrants to pose a threat. It doesn't work so well in times of economic hardship when there aren't enough jobs at an income level high enough to keep the natives happy and not enough money to invest in social services to keep them quiet, hence the rise of what are termed "far right" parties in countries like France and Germany that are attracting support from working class people who would normally be the target of left wing parties. Greed and hunger for power on the part of both the political right and political left have caused this problem and it won't end well.

    What surprises me here is the way university students who are all about freedom, equality and justice don't appear to have any notion of what trans-national organisations like the Muslim Brotherhood actually stand for. I have never seen any generation as misinformed or as easily manipulated as our supposedly intellectual youth. They are committing cultural and social suicide yet don't seem to realise it.
     
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  15. Blue Horizen

    Blue Horizen Guest

    Lets wait for this momentous struggle to end DG and see if the Phoenix arises.
    If God is with His Church we can be certain of the outcome regardless of the battles lost on the way, surely?
     
  16. Blue Horizen

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    Basto I see the same things as you and I agree that things don't look good for the Church.
    But I follow a few principles I have learnt to accept from experience even if I don't understand how or why they work as they do.

    First, the plans and understandings of men come to nothing time and time again. So we can discern and judge and conspiracize and gaze upon all the forces pitted against the Church...and still have a completely wrong take on what is actually happening.

    Second, the Church has been on the floor numerous times in its past only to absorb and overcome its invincible enemy.

    Third, the way to to do this is to love one's enemy and talk to them and to let them attack you so that we might be a leaven to them in their own dark places. If we start by not seeing people as stereotyped enemies and keep sticking to our own knitting and leave the big plans and decisions to God I believe the Church will survive and not only survive but eventually thrive. "Destroy" your enemies by making them your friends.

    Re the video...its breaking the old approach which was to fill the moats with water and lift up the drawbridge.
    Like the above article says, that suited pre-Reformation times when we truly had isolated Christian countries and borders.
    Today we live in a mixed society, a new strategy is required.
    Not talking never solved anything.

    Obviously we hold Christ is essentially different from other faiths.
    I am secure in my faith, if it is the true religion I believe it is then nature itself will have a gravity that eventually attracts sincere people of other faiths to our cause.
    As St Francis said, preach at all times and if necessary say a few words :):):).

    Sorry if that doesn't make sense, its the best response I can come up with to your question thanks.
     
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  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I speak not of past defeats but of past victories-when the Church instilled and baptised its foreign elements into pagan cultures throughout the world and throughout history. Thus transforming the world.
     
  18. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    BREAKING Now !....Iran takes over to small US Navy ships...Iran says they will be returned soon ? FOX news

    10 US sailors detained (must not have been SEALS ) in Persian Gulf
     
  19. Basto

    Basto Guest

    Thanks Blue, I presume that you accept that the video could be, at least, very pleasant to those two lobbies.

    However, our Catholic concept of love is different from the humanistic concept of love. We know that the Salvation is only possible through a narrow door called Jesus Christ, crucified and resurrected, we are not loving the others if we don’t tell them that Truth clearly and undoubtedly. That’s the only way, not just one of the ways. If we know that our friend will die will die if won’t take that specific medicine, we are not showing him love by giving him support on his decision of just drinking Coca-cola. Talking about eternal death, it just makes it worse.

    The Church had problems before, it’s true but, in my opinion, never had such a problem with the size and the nature of this one, and the reason is because we believe that we don’t have a problem, we are not enough holy to see the problem. Nonetheless, the reason why the Church always got up again it was because there were always saints and martyrs who weren’t afraid of saying that Truth, paying a price for that Truth with their own lives. The first one was Jesus and that’s why he was killed, he could have said “ok, let’s find a compromise”, but he didn’t, He told them I’m the only way to the Father and He died for that. Many Christian martyrs fallowed his example, refused the easy way of the compromise, the way of the popularity, the way of the false mercy, and they died as well. That’s the true Love.
     
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  20. Basto

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    I have confidence in... the thing!

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    That's wrong, but very wrong!


     
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