Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

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  1. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" ADMIN Staff Member

    Yup I remember when 911 happened I shared with friends how the two trade centers fitted perfectly to Rev 18

    9 “When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. 10 Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off and cry:
    “‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
    you mighty city of Babylon!
    In one hour your doom has come!’

    11 “The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore— 12 cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; 13 cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and human beings sold as slaves.

    14 “They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’ 15 The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment. They will weep and mourn 16 and cry out:

    “‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
    dressed in fine linen, purple and scarlet,
    and glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls!
    17 In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’
     
  2. Leo, just checked back in. Thanks for this translation. There is just too much recent info that points to the inevitable.....like the elephant in the room....while most are kept like mushrooms by those in the know= keep in the dark and throw manure over them! Grateful for Antonio's research.
     
  3. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    @Glenn please correct me if I am wrong... This really couldnt be the catastrophe of G. could it? Because wasnt the word it could be prevented with the conversion of the world? IF this was true (still not buying it at all as I dont think something that large could 'all of a sudden' sneak up on us. But if it could be prevented then this wouldnt be it I would assume. I would think it is something man made like war or terrorism.
     
  4. Glenn

    Glenn Guest


    Since I have not listened to these videos, I can only assume we are talking about the "end times" and the " Chastisement" mentioned at Garabandal, if so, then I can offer only what I know ( as it pertains to GBL prophecy ). While the Chastisement is " conditional ", it should also be noted that Conchita felt that humanity would not stay repentant very long ,and we would eventually bring the punishment upon ourselves.
     
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  5. This large system (which could not be seen earlier on without infrared lens on telescopes due to its distance and darkness) with its noticeable gravitational pull on outer planets has been known for decades as noted esp. by several major media in the 1980s:

    http://rabbithole2.com/news/top_news/revisiting_old_planet_x_nibiru_destroyer_10th_planet_news.php

    more recently as well:
    RE: the Emmitsburg message about govts (as well as Church authorities) knowing about these "alignments", this information about the system....or its "planet of the crossing, Nibru"....was recorded on Google Sky and then patched over (only place in Google Sky with such a patch over). I used very same given coordinates for Google Sky of original presentation of this image there and got the same patch over:

    http://crisisboom.com/2011/01/20/nibiru-planet-2012/

    Then, if you can pardon the rather "earthy" language used by this NASA employee one can see that such knowledge of this system has been out there for quite some time and one also can note the gravity of its possible effects...as it is also known as "the Destroyer"!:



    And re: Antonio Yague's theory of the sixth seal and pole shift/Warning caused by the magnetic pull of this incoming system, we also have the vision given to Sondra Abrahams (often covered on Spirit Daily as well as the videos from Archbishop Hannan's FOCUS videos)...around 2:20 min. that points to an earth that "had been turned upside down":

     
  6. Recently I have heard it mentioned that Mari Loli, now deceased, of Garabandal, had mentioned....witnessed I believe as I've been told by a priest at her parish......something like the Warning and the Miracle being very close together in time....something like perhaps only 3 or so weeks apart. I don't know about that and perhaps Glenn can better clarify. It was her parish in the U.S. This would of course differ from the schedule of Antonio Yague who places the Warning in Nov. of 2016 with Miracle in April of 2017.....on dates that "wrap" around the months of the apparitions of Fatima which is most interesting. And I believe Yague has Warning on feast of Bishop (Nov.) who converted the Saint of the Eucharist (as designated at Garabandal) whose feast is the date he (and others) chose in April. That too seems most interesting!
     
  7. Glenn

    Glenn Guest

    earthtoangels, Mari Loli did indicate in one interview that it was the same year.
    In an interview on July 27, 1975 ,Mari Loli was asked about the Warning,and this was her response.
    Q. Did the Blessed Mother tell you not to speak about the Warning?
    A. No, she didn't, but, because the Warning and the Miracle are within the same year, I feel it inside not to say anything.
     
  8. bona fide

    bona fide Angels

    But in the Spanish quotes of that interview of 1975, the answer of Mari Loli is
    accompanied by a note from Needles magazine saying that Mari Loli clarified that same year meant within a year apart.

    In the interview of 1979 to Fr. Benac Loli said:
    Fr. Benac: Would you say that this Warning will be a help towards ones purification? And is there any correlation between the "Warning" and the "Miracle"?

    Mari Loli: Yes, the "Two" will take place within 12 months.The Warning will be a purification and preparation to return to God.
     
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  9. Thanks. Then the timeline of Antonio Yague could just merit consideration.....Nov. 13, 2016 for Warning and Apr. 13, 2017 for Miracle.....the two months "wrapping" the months of the Fatima apparitions!
     
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  10. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    Really? So the Warning should be a preparation for us to leave this world? I wonder what the meaning of "return to God" is. For what I know, the Warning will serve as a purification to witness the Miracle, and for everyone to choose on which side to stand... good or evil.
     
  11. Pijon, I don want to respond for BF but I will say that
    "return to God", "convert", "turn back to God", "repent", "surrender our lives to God", and other expressions are practically synonyms here.

    "the Warning will serve as a purification to witness the Miracle"
    Your sentence sounds like buying a ticket for an spectacle. Probably it is not what you meant either.

    We have become so familiar with sayings around the words, Warning, Miracle, that we may come to believe that we know everything we need to know about them. But those are very mysterious events of a divine dimension, of which we are utterly ignorant. It is not about the externals but about who is the master of our soul, as you imply, indeed.

    But if it is so difficult to understand what a fellow member in the forum is talking about when using the expression "return to God"(which is a common human expression), what can we expect that we are understanding about everything else!

    Let's remove the blinders that we hold and try to understand others instead of just counter them with our better wording.
    Peace!
     
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  12. bona fide

    bona fide Angels

    The words are from Mari Loli not mine
    and a direct transcription of her response to Fr. Benac.
     
  13. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    Well, I didn't mean to attack anybody! The fact is that, as some of you already know, English is not my main language and I associated the "return to God" to a death. In my country, if I translate "return to God", usually it means meet God in heaven :rolleyes:. My fault! At least, you confirm that I had a correct interpretation of the Warning (purification to witness the Miracle, which should be one of the purposes of the Warning), so I'll keep sticking with that. Obviously I'm not talking of the Warning as a big TV show (I don't understand where you've taken that from), nonetheless it will be a unique event.
     
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  14. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    Ehm, an update. If you wrongly think that I'm talking of the Warning/Miracle as a big TV show, then you should say the same thing of Conchita!:

    Q. If I am situated far from the village in the mountains, but I am able to see the Pines, will I see the Miracle clearly? If I am sick will I be cured at that distance?
    A.
    You will be able to witness the Miracle clearly, and if God wills it you will be cured.

    http://www.garabandal.org/News/Garabandal_Warning_Miracle_Interviews.shtml

    So, me and Conchita used the same term :). Is there something so bad in "to witness"?

    P.S.: obviously neither me or Conchita think that these two miraculous events will be a fireworks show...
     
  15. Pijon, I apologize because I misinterpreted you. Using a second language is always tricky, indeed, and I never thought of that.
    Your explanation is quite fair. Thanks for your patience. Peace!
     
  16. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    No problem, misunderstandings are typical in these situations. Next time I'll try to be more careful, too!
     
  17. Well now...this latest news is rather intriguing...from yesterday. And spotted are two objects (Nemesis and satellite, Nibiru...the "planet of the crossing"??). Wonder if Mr. Yague has seen this news!:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...-Scientists-say-mega-planet-orbiting-sun.html

    Within the link (with NASA doing its expected debunking):

    WHAT IS PLANET X?


    Planet X, also known as Nibiru, is a hypothesised planet on the edge of our solar system.

    Conspiracy theorists believe the gravitational influence of the 'rogue planet' disrupted the orbits of other planets hundreds of years ago.

    They claim the next disruptive passage into the inner solar system could happen at any time.

    Some claims that this 'planet' is sending 'plasmatic energy particles' through our solar system.

    The flow of energy will disrupt the 'core flows' of the Earth and trigger catastrophic changes in Earth's climate.

    They claim, since 1996, we have already been feeling the disruptive effects of the inbound rogue Planet X.

    Conspiracy theorists often blame natural disasters and freak weather patterns on the planet.

    'Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an internet hoax,' Nasa has said. 'Obviously, it does not exist.




    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...y-mega-planet-orbiting-sun.html#ixzz3u9hheZ9d
     
  18. Blue Horizen

    Blue Horizen Guest

    Re Nibiru:
    The idea of the Nibiru encounter originated with Nancy Lieder, a Wisconsin woman who claims that as a girl she was contacted by gray extraterrestrials called Zetas, who implanted a communications device in her brain.


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    A Grey Extraterrestial

    She claimed that the Hale-Bopp story was manufactured to distract people from the imminent arrival of a large planetary object, "Planet X", which would soon pass by Earth and destroy civilization.[9]
    After Hale-Bopp's perihelion revealed it as one of the brightest and longest-observed comets of the last century,[10] Lieder removed the first two sentences of her initial statement from her site, though they can still be found in
    Google's archives.[9] Her claims eventually made the New York Times.[11]

    Lieder described Planet X as roughly four times the size of the Earth, and said that its closest approach would occur on May 27, 2003. Roughly a week before the supposed arrival of Planet X in May 2003, Lieder appeared on KROQ-FM radio in Los Angeles, and advised listeners to euthanize their pets in anticipation of the event as she had done.[15]

    After the 2003 date passed without incident, Lieder said that it was merely a "white lie ... to fool the establishment."[18] She refused to disclose the true date, saying that to do so would give those in power enough time to declare martial law and trap people in cities during the shift, leading to their deaths.[19]

    Though Lieder herself has not specified a new date for the object's return, many groups have taken up her idea and cited their own dates. One frequently cited date was December 21, 2012.
    Despite that date having passed, many websites still contend that Nibiru/Planet X is en route to Earth.[21]


    In 2012, Lieder claimed that U.S. President Barack Obama futilely attempted to announce the presence of Nibiru near the sun.[22] After 2012, she claimed that several world leaders had intended to announce the presence of Nibiru near the sun on October 20, 2014. Two weeks after the supposed date of announcement, she claimed that it did not occur because of consternation amongst the establishment.[23]
    WIKIPEDIA.

    The latest Nibiru view amongst the "experts" is for April 2016 with visibility from Dec 2015.
    http://ultimatesurvival.net/

    A bit of school maths suggests that Nibiru must be travelling at an average of 1.4 million kmh if it is going to make its alleged appointment with Earth. As it slingshots back around the sun it presumably travels many times faster than that, perhaps 10 million kmh. That's impressive, a planet travelling at 1% of the speed of light.

    Or not.
     
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  19. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    Uhm... If I recall correctly, dailymail is a rubbish source.
     
  20. Leo

    Leo Principalities

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