Locutions to the World

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  1. Marty haynes

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    Yes and thank you for your blessing
     
  2. josephite

    josephite Powers

    Marty, Let none of this trouble you.

    Go to Jesus in humble supplication at the foot of the cross.
    Go to Him in confession.
    Go to Him in Holy communion.

    Be silent and state to Him, ' all I need is your presence Oh Lord'.

    For His presence is all that is needed.

    Repeat over and over, Jesus I love you!

    Become intimate with His presence alone.

    Then go home and do not fear.

    Constantly tell Him, throughout the day that you love Him.

    Dismiss any words that come, for God will not place you in harms way, nor tempt you with words, when He is truly present and you have asked your Father for this.

    You will with Gods presence, overcome the insidious babbling that haunts you.
    God bless
     
  3. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Marty, Im curious by the phrase Im a false prophet ? Are you a known locutionist? or do you mean this in the sence you promoted LTTW and feel like a false prophet?

    My prayers for you and the Family, May our Ladys Mantle cover and protect you!

    Don't know if maybe moveing from your area is possibility?

    side note....Im not trying to bust your chops here Marty. We all can read false prophet and give a couple definitions to the phrase. My intrest is why you call yourself one?
     
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  4. Ed Kleese

    Ed Kleese Servant

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    Note to Myself on the Feast Day of St. Therese of the Child Jesus:
    In Jesus's time, there were those who argued in favour of Jesus, those who argued against Him, those who followed Him and didn't follow Him and those who could care less one way or the other. Which of these gained eternal life? It is not my call to make that judgement because I don't know the state of each individual when they went before Him at the moment of death.
    Jesus is the both the gate keeper and the gate. His heart and His love are what St. Therese found to be all in all. She taught the novices that the shortest way to Heaven is not to judge others but just do Christ's will in every moment of our lives.
    If LttW helped me, I will accept the blessing. If it deterred me from my daily duty, I will strive to not let that happen again and lose the precious time given me by my Saviour. What matters now is what is in front of me, not behind. Become love.

    This is what I will strive for dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ and I count as one of my blessings the finding of this forum. May God Bless all of us.
    Peace, Ed
     
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  5. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    BC,
    you are very wise soul!!!!
     
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  6. Marty haynes

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    I am a locutionist and I was sincere but the priest have different opinions and are trying to discern but some of them believe I was fooled by the adversy I never went public it is just people in my religious community that know of me.
     
  7. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Marty,

    First i am not sure if you are for real or not. But you make me sad reading your posts. Its a lonely world to touch the mystical. Now my first advice is to ignore the calling but to expand your prayer life. True Christian Mysticism will immediately lead you closer to God. That means more prayers, sacraments and penance. (Daily). And i'm not talking a few weeks but years of loving the Lord. Second, start looking for spiritual director...that will take months and possibly years. Once you find a spiritual director it will take months maybe years to gain his trust. One has to understand, that not only is spiritual director giving you advice... but he is observing how you act and trying to understand if the visions are from God.

    Never think God is telling you to immediately do something. For all saints it is a gradual path of discovery and awe. God doesn't need anyone to save mankind. Our Lord Jesus Christ did that through His Pain and Suffering.

    Most mystics are in a battle for their own souls and if they are worthy through the Grace of God...they will lead others to God.

    That is the magic :)

    May Gods Will be Done
     
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  8. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Thanks for replying Marty. I appreciate your honesty! I really do. I asked this ,for years ago I used to listen to Catholic and Protestant apologetic debates and defineing meanings of words. When I say Virgin Birth, whats your definition. So, I figured I'd ask what you meant by "false prophet". I had 4 different ways to look at it and you gave the one that matters! Stay close to confession and Spiritual direction, Holy Communion for sure.
    All will be well Marty, your in a Dark nite for sure....we are All praying for you!
    God Bless you Marty
     
  9. How do you mean? The only time Msgr Esseff's name was used by the LTTW website was in the very beginning which introduced the messages to the public with his permission. That was not a false use of his name. He had to give the permission for the messages to go public. I remember writing to Msgr after messages re: Francis and the mention of him consecrating Russia, wondering if he knew if the new Pope Francis knew about the locutions. He replied: "why don't you write to him yourself and let him know"! While he recognized them he always remained objective as far as the public was concerned. It's been the follow-up attacks, gossip, and errors being spread that included Msgr's name with misinformation that caused confusion for all. He never gave personal thumbs up approval, support, or anything else that people could hang their hats on. He always left it for individual discernment with the stated conditions for private revelations within the Church while it appears he also continued merely discerning them himself. And he always protected the privacy of the individual locutionist.

    Now what really surprised me and shows how everyone, including those considered "golden" scholars within the hierarchy was the very public pronouncement by Fr. Iannuzzi, in writing, to be circulated, who I've greatly respected in his most intellectual approach to the "proper" understanding of the Divine Will messages, that literally shamed Msgr Esseff publicly. How dare Msgr Esseff not immediately comply with the most "charitable" Iannuzzi advisory handed down to him, Msgr. Esseff, a man with decades more experience in actual pastoring, advising, and discerning the spiritual guidance necessary for many, than one can assume for the young Fr. Iannuzzi whose specialties thus far have been the study and translation, for years, of the actual documents pertaining to Luisa Piccarreta. That charism is in a different category from his elder brother priest and should have been recognized. And the long treatise that came after the beginning condescending correction of Msgr expresses more about his Church and now self anointing than any expertise of personal judgement that admittedly came only secondhand via a priest friend who communicated only through writing at that. Come on. I think it's great how this Pope is holding a mirror up for ALL to recognize their true motivations of spirit....and that includes the most adulated and shining momentary stars that the faithful easily hitch their wagons to for total adherence on just about every question.

    As WCWTS mentioned above (within a most excellent thoroughly considered assessment) with another current "prophet"/pied piper type.....there is always a casual cover when questioned on specifics and that is that he just doesn't look at the available messages received by others so he is not expert on them but then goes on with personal conclusions on the same that take up an entire thread (as well as voiced opinions within comments on other threads that mention the same things), also lecturing those who seem to him to "need" to be told each day what to think, etc. (paraphrasing) while his own "trip" does nothing but garner the same type of devotion he is willing to object to....go figure. And beyond that he includes his personal take on what he deems is simply the mis-interpretation by even now those saints as well as chosen messengers including recognized mystics of the Church re: the prophesied world wide warning and illumination of conscience. According to him people just have a habit of expecting way too much....that such visions or similar prophecies must only be symbolic and that just wasn't understood by the saint involved! And no one within the most adoring comment section dare to suggest otherwise....without being more fully corrected...with all charity of course! People are willing to drop even what the Church is on record to consider to expect if someone appeals in a more folksy, down to earth, manner. Some of the most startling signs of our times these days appear to be the great gifts of "chutzpah" displayed in the public and various media venues by our modern day local explorers of the spiritual realm!
     
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  10. Marty haynes

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    Thank you I know all you say is true it is just hard to believe when your. Mind and soul are being tortured I am also fighting outside attacks of the adversy and it is very hard for a human to comprehend. Most people would not believe how real the supernatural world is.
     
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  11. kathy k

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    In this time of the storm, it is imperative that we are docile and obedient, that we know His voice, and respond IMMEDIATELY if need be.
     
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  12. Marty haynes

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    I am for real. I would not play with a serious issue like this. I was just letting people know that prophets locutionist and visionaries mean well and do not realize that the adversy can come as the angel of light. And it hurts me to admit it I am humiliated and hurt I was deceived I am embarrassed and feel like a fool. But I know in my heart I truly believed my supernatural experiences were from God who I was trying to follow. And now I feel like the enemy
     
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  13. Marty haynes

    Marty haynes Guest

    I am for real thank you
     
  14. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    I did listen to Paul and the show before( wo my friend called last week and DOM told her Msgr Esseff gave permission to him to talk about the LTTW msg) Paul Reagan was just about quoteing Summerfields post on page 68 post # 1356 How the msg would be suppressed for a time but return. ( mind you when that specific msg was released I believe last spring came in a batch of msg's right after Congress passed Net Neutrality, where the internet talk on Drudge and others stated they could be shutdown includeing Religeous sites...etc ) I read the privacy policy for the Locutions site after it first went down on Monday. It list 3 points. Basically the 1+1 screen you see means you actually connected to Locutions.com. They state. We provide this service for those working on/developing a web page. So vistors can see they are connected to the site instead of receiving page not found. Some links are giving page not found tho.... Trust me, Locutions will be up and running again. They updated a batch of previeously released msgs at 8AM (roughly ) yesterday on itsw Facebook page . So someone is still at work at LTTW

    Side Note... If I remember right. At the time of the US Congress passing Net Neutrality into law a thread was started on the Forum wondering if MOG may have issues.
     
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  15. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    That is the cross that comes with mysticism...it's not the wonderful stories books portray. The moment one breaks through for whatever reason good or bad...life changes. It's pretty much a battle for your soul. There is a reason few people break through...it will cause great suffering but also great joy.

    We all know about the rockstar saints.

    What about those that came close but failed.

    May Gods Will be Done





    hay
     
  16. Just wanted to add another thought to the theory that the September 3 Locution, “Toward the end of his trip, he will have to shift his message and address the NEW WORLD SITUATION” was his “Improvised Address on Family” which occurred day five out of six (toward the end of his trip).

    Besides these already stated connections between LTTW and the Family Speech with the words CONFUSION and DESTRUCTION (forgive me for the repeat):
    Sep 5 Locution: “…the opposing forces will be clearly drawn up. Satan will have his terrorists, his nuclear Iran and all the CONFUSION caused by the DESTRUCTION of stable structures”
    Family Speech: “…And because sometimes we are a bit CONFUSED, we are DESTROYING it. But the most beautiful thing that God did, says the Bible, was the family… “the factory of Joy”….
    Family Speech: “Men and women, through the astuteness of the devil, have learned unfortunately how to divide themselves. And all that love that God gave, almost was lost. In a little period of time – the first crime. The first instance of fratricide. Love, beauty and truth of God [gestures with one hand] and DESTRUCTION and war [gestures with other hand].”

    …these “definitions” of the “NEW SITUATION” in Locutions,:
    Sep 9 Locution: “Pope Francis will understand the NEW SITUATION and will adjust the goals of his papacy. He will not understand the fullness of all that is to happen but I will help him in this new moment for the Church”.
    Sep 13 Locution: “New papal graces will pour out and I will lead him on a new search to discover the Church’s role in this NEW SITUATION.”

    …these connections between LTTW and the Family Speech with the word “FUTURE”:
    Sep 22 Locution: “At a much deeper level, there will be a trembling which few can understand. A war begins, heaven and hell locked in mortal combat, a shifting, a tremendous shifting which is so important for the FUTURE of the Church and the world.”
    Family Speech: “Let’s protect the family. Because it’s in the family that our FUTURE is at play".
    Family Speech: “A people that doesn’t know how to look after its children or grandparents is a people that has no FUTURE”.
    Family Speech: "Children, whether young or older, they are the FUTURE, the strength that moves us forward. We place our hope in them"

    In addition, consider the tone that Pope Francis delivers these words about the “future” of family. In a speech filled with smiles, laughter and heart-warming words, he is relatively sober when he says, “A people that doesn’t know how to look after its children or grandparents is a people that has no FUTURE”. And, consider that his statement, “…it’s in the family that our FUTURE is at play”, is the last line of his speech. Oftentimes, the last line is the most important thought you want to leave the audience. Also, although there is a little smile on his face in his last line, there is also a little soberness, and he delivers it with emphasis.

    Also, in this speech, the Pope is sober when he says these words listed above, which can be thought about in many ways, “Men and women, through the astuteness of the devil, have learned unfortunately how to divide themselves. And all that love that God gave, almost was lost. In a little period of time – the first crime. The first instance of fratricide. Love, beauty and truth of God [gestures with one hand] and DESTRUCTION and war [gestures with other hand].”

    Check out the speech if you have a chance. Would be nice to also research pro-family remarks made by Pope Francis after his trip, as WCWTS pointed out.
     
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  17. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Marty, keep your chin up! Your not the enemy, we all have feet of clay and are weak. Offer your heart to the Lord, a sacrifice of Praise. Ask our Lady to dwell in your heart as well.:)
     
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  18. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Sister k,

    Through the lives of the saints nothing is immediate.

    :)





     
  19. Just another thought. Hopefully, there will be more Locutions to come in the near future, and we can discuss them here. They could, of course, be a tremendous help in confirming or correcting our current theories about the Pope’s visit.
     
  20. Marty haynes

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    Thank you for your support and positive words
     
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