Locutions to the World

Everything in this says the opposite of delay or push back. She uses these words to say that things are definitely happening now, it can no longer be delayed! Talk about B.S. baffles brains. There is too much good comedy in this thead to leave it just yet.

 

Each can speak to themselves, but as for me LTTW was way out of what Peter B. coined the word 'prophetic consensus' to the extreme use of senastationalism. It in no way resembled either past or present approved or nonapproved messages or anything close to it providing play-by play speculations on what was to come. This is why it was not on my radar for past few years. It was way out of the box.

 

The Messages are being kept alive by people who can't let them go. Monsignor Esseff is out and has no connection to them. He told me himself this afternoon. He will not make a public announcement he is very private He has said no one is to forced to believe in any prophecy it is up to the individual to discern it and let it go until it comes to pass to be true. The Bishop office called me and the priest said Monsignor Esseff is not part of the locution and the priest who knows about the radio and internet hearsay and he said they will not burden Monsignor with this issue that chasers are keeping alive

 

No one who read the September LTTW messages from the time they came out on the 5th, sensed anything even close to what you have posted here. No one was fooled then as to what they were saying, but reading the spin now in hindsight, one would have to ask, was everyone wrong then and only a now we see the light of the September messages? I fear for the moment that the Antichrist comes on the scene if we cannot see what false messages are. He is much more cunning then the LTTW messages and will be much more believable too for most.

 

MMM, no offense taken : ). For me, that's the nature of "pondering". It's a process of thought. It doesn't claim to have the answer yet, it contemplates, tries to connect dots, eventually hoping to arrive at the truth as nearly as possible. In the process, inevitably it goes down unproductive roads. However if you eventually get closer to the Truth, it's worth it. If you're willing to think outloud and risk sounding crazy, you might get rewarded by someone else building on your thoughts in a valuable way, or you might build on your own faulty ideas in a valuable way. So, for me, it's a process. Thus my words, "I BEGAN to ASK...", "...CONSIDER this speech..., "I BEGAN to see..." and most important, at the end, "I will CONTINUE to PONDER". I figure if Mary did it, it must be okay. Thanks for your thoughts.

 

Thanks for that info, Marty. I don't mean offense by saying I want to talk to Monsignor Essef myself. I'm hoping to talk with him because I have a specific question about the Locutions.

 

I fail to see why people are spending so much time on these messages, does your prayer life not suffer? I know mine would if I was to be as caught up as some appear to be.
For those trying to discern, why not ask for the gift of discernment. When the Lord gives it you will just "know" and He will confirm it, and one won't have to be going around the world trying to figure it out.
That's my rant for tonight!

 

Did Monsignor Esseff happen to say whether or not he was still the one writing the comments after each locution up until the website was taken down? Did he happen to mention as of what date he stopped supporting them?

 

No

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No he does not give excuses and does not give detail. He is directly to the point. He said I do not support them although he believes God speaks to some people it is very hard to discern

 

No offense taken just trying to clear up the truth from what I have been told. The bishops office called me and said it was ok to clear his name where ever possible

 

MMM, this probably won't do much for you, but I forgot to include this comment about the family from Pope Francis's speech, that speaks to what's at stake: " Let’s protect the family. Because it’s in the family that our future is at play". I wish I knew everything in his mind and heart when he said "our future is at play".

 

So we're pretty much in the same stance as from the beginning: They've been presented publicly, (actually from the start stated as through his permission) as private revelations, for each person to discern and without "support" from Msgr Esseff beyond what he stated in the beginning: within private revelations no one has to believe and can accept or not. Kind of like when other private revelations are kept.....sometimes for years or forever.....in a neutral position.....without condemnation or complete approval esp. when they're ongoing. All the discussion surrounding them doesn't pertain to Msgr Esseff himself but to the messages, thus he does not need to be bothered. The discussion surrounding them is generated outside of him and by those keeping the various opinions about them alive. He's not involved in that part. And of course he also states, admits, at the same time, that God does speak through persons (which one can assume also includes this particular individual) but discernment is always difficult. So, once again, make your own decision according to your own discernment.

 

Glad to know that. Do you know if Paul Regan put his thoughts on this locution in writing? My understanding is that his show is not recorded, so you can't get a recording of it...

 

Paul is discerning them as all the rest of us are. He sees a wider and deeper intention and meaning, as in so many other private revelations with heaven's own meaning, beyond a myopic attention to only a small bit of the whole.

 

Right, either the Locutions are somehow untrue, or they are true and somehow our expectations are wrong (i.e. Sept 20 Locution that collapse is delayed, misinterpretation of "collapse", etc.). I was brainstorming from the "expectations" angle, apparently thoughts that were not on your radar... : )

 

I do not think his thoughts were in writing and the show was a live and my understanding is that it is not recorded.

Was anyone else listening to Paul Regan today? I heard most of what he had to say but with cooking dinner and keeping an eye out on my kids, I wasn't able to take notes.

 

I have been adamant about saying interpretation of any heavenly message is very difficult, best done "while looking in the rear view mirror." The western economy has collapsed, there are signs all around you. Russia just told the US to get out of Syria, they are bombing our "allies", the "moderate" moslems. Our foreign policy is a disaster and we are in debt up to our eyeballs. Can't cut rates anymore, the west is a paper tiger. We have shipped all our gold to China and Russia. Our money is backed by nothing, just printed paper with zero's on it. Maybe LTTW will be best seen in the rear view mirror.

 

I am not trying to argue. I am just saying he is not promoting the messages. He does belive God speaks to some people only God himself would know that. Monsignor can only discern to the best of his ability. He is not God and does not claim to hear him speak. I am just saying you can let it go it will take a lot of stress off you. The main point is he is not a supporter so that should ease your frustration over it not happening like the locution said. Monsignor did not force anyone to believe them or to waste time chasing them that was up to you.

 

Msgr Esseff never did "promote" the messages themselves. They were always left open for just the personal discernment of each person. It's others who have tried to make him go beyond what he did initially....to only permit them to go public. That doesn't mean he personally "supports" or gives more or less weight to them. As said, only God knows the real truth so see how they play out in the long run. Also, there was a blogger who was spreading falsehoods about them which included putting out that Monsignor himself was the locutionist and it is said that Monsignor had to get a lawyer to stop the errors being promoted. That was when the rumor got started about him suing locutions.org. No wonder he wants people to only discern or not....the messages....not him.