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What does our Lady mean Rome will become the seat of the antichrist

Discussion in 'GARABANDAL LIBRARY' started by sponsa Christi, Jun 22, 2017.

  1. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    The above video is pretty good, it explains the 7 ages of the church. The bishop who presents Bartholomew Holzhauser vision does state what I said a few posts back, the 7th age is around 3.5 years long.
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  2. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    To continue my post about Melanie and St. Annibale DiFrancia:

    In a letter to a brother priest, Fr. Salvatore Jordan, Saint Annibale explained that Melanie had entrusted him with a rule that she had received from Our Lady for a religious community of "Apostles of the Last Days." (*see below for explanation)

    To Fr Jordan, St. Annibale stated that he had not been called to that mission, but that his community's prayer for holy priests contained within it the seed of a "'new and divine' holiness' "that would prepare the world for the coming of the supreme Judge." (see below comment on Pope John Paul II and the 'new and divine' holiness) Later, in a prayer of consecration he wrote for his Daughters of Divine Zeal, Saint Annibale referred to three fiats, or divine interventions in the history of the universe. These were the fiat of creation, the fiat of redemption, and the fiat of sanctification in our time, "with which", in his words, "begins the new spirit of a new holiness." In his writings, St. Annibale equated this third fiat with the fulfillment of the Lord's Prayer petition, "Thy Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." through a new outpouring of the Holy Spirit that would 'form souls who surpass the saints of days gone by." (In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort referred to the great saints that Our Lady would raise up before the end of the world.)

    Pope John Paul II speaks of a 'new and divine' holiness:
    In 1997, on the centenary of the founding of the Rogationist Fathers by St. Annibal Di Francis, Pope John Paul II wrote: "The modern means that human sciences and contemporary technology make available and that you rightly try to use in your apostolic work will only be effective if they are sustained and guided by the original charismatic inspiration of the blessed founder, who saw in the Rogate the means God Himself had provided to bring about that new and divine holiness with which the Holy Spirit wish to enrich Christian at the dawn of the third millennium, in order to make Chris the heart of the world."

    *Regarding Melanie's request from Our Lady about the religious community "the Apostles of the Last Days":
    After a through investigation, the Bishop of Grenoble ruled in favor of the apparitions. In addition to the public message of La Salette, Our Lady gave Melanie a private message, with orders not to reveal it until a later time. Melanie's private revelations included instructions for the formation of a religious community to be known as "the Apostles of the Last Days."

    About Melanie: Pope John Paul II stated: "As I wrote on the occasion of the 150th anniversary, 'La Salette is a message of hope, for our hope is nourished by the intercession of her who is the Mother of mankind."

    Now, all of this links to Luisa Piccarreta - Saint Annibale was the Spiritual Director for Melanie and the Extraordinary Confessor for Luisa. Jesus told Luisa all about the "new era" or the "new and divine holiness" - the fulfillment of the prayer Jesus gave to His Church, The Our Father.

    I hope this helps you. If you wish to know more about this, you may go to my blog: childofdivinelove.blogspot.com

    Also, for your discernment: I had just come into the Catholic Church and a friend gave me a newspaper article about La Salette. I was alone in my house and as soon as I picked up the paper and began to read, I smelled the scent of incense and felt a presence near me. I recognized that what I was about to read was truth and that there was a reason for my learning about La Salette and Melanie. It was just after this that I came across the writings of Luisa (The Book of Heaven) and learned about Saint (Blessed at that time) Annibale. (I have also been blessed with a First Class relic of St. Annibale!) It all has come together and now I understand what Our dear Lord wanted of me - that I live in His Divine Will. This is also what He asks of you and all who read this. I have read several times the 36 volumes of Luisa's and all other writings of hers as dictated to her by Jesus and Our Lady. If you have any questions, I would be most happy to try to answer them for you.
    In the Heart of Jesus and Mary,

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  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Lynne, Wow, thank you. Right now I only have one question and that has to do with the date of 1865 for the birth of the antichrist. How do you interpret that? Maybe this did not mean the birth of the actually AC but maybe something related to the AC?
  4. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Carol, I do not know anything pertaining to that date and antichrist. I can tell you that Our Lady told Fr. Gobbi in 1992:
    "The fourth sign is the horrible sacrilege, perpetrated by him who sets himself against Christ, that is, the Antichrist. He will enter into the holy temple of God and will sit on his throne and have himself adored as God." (read Dn 12:9-12)
    "Now, from the moment that the daily Sacrifice is abolished and the horrible abomination is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days." "The Holy Mass is the Daily Sacrifice." By accepting the Protestant doctrine, people will hold that the Mass is not a sacrifice, but only a sacred meal, that is to say, a remembrance of that which Jesus did at His Last Supper." "The moment of the full manifestation of the Antichrist is drawing ever nearer." (MMP, Dec. 31, 1992, #485)

    It is my personal belief that we are nearing ever so quickly to the times that Our Lady speaks of. You may want to read this:
    Jesus once told me several years ago, "As the veil in the Temple was rent in two, so will My Church be." At the time, I had no idea what this meant, but I am understanding now.
    As St. John Paul II told us, "Do not fear!"
  5. Byron

    Byron Archangels

    Well, the birth of communism began in 1865. The socialist/anarchist movement formed a group in London, but moved its headquarters to New York. It was the Lassalle group. And it was the first socialist movement worldwide that later spread to Europe.
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  6. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Byron, Thank you.
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  7. Mea Kulpa

    Mea Kulpa Angels

    .What does our Lady mean Rome will become the seat of the antichrist

    "All civil governments will have one and the same plan"

    "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the antichrist. The church will be in eclipse and the world will be in dismay"

    Melanie the seer stated

    The church will be in eclipse in this two fold sense

    1st people will not know which is the true pope
    2nd for a time the holy sacrafice of the mass will cease

    Our lady of good success expands on this

    "Unhappy times will come wherein those who should fearlessly defend the rights of the Church will instead, blinded despite the light, give their hand to the Church’s enemies and do their bidding"

    "This apparent triumph of Satan will cause enormous suffering to the good pastors of the Church…and to the Supreme Pastor and Vicar of Christ on earth who, a prisoner in the Vatican, will shed secret and bitter tears in the presence of God Our Lord, asking for light, sanctity, and perfection for all the clergy of the world, to whom he is King and Father.”

    "He who should speak seasonably will remain silent."
  8. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Because of apostasy, God will allow the destruction of the Vatican and the vacuum it leaves will become the seat of the Antichrist.
  9. Jarg

    Jarg Archangels

    As you know there is that possible non published letter of the ‘second’ part of the third secret of Fatima that states the Cathedral of Rome (it is St John Lateran, not St Peters) will be destroyed because the Pope would have stepped away from the dogma of the Faith. And then if the Pope does not repent Rome will be destroyed and the papacy will move to Fatima. The letter also requested that John Paul II should move a fragment of the burial stone of St Peter to the Basilica in Fatima during his reign, which he actually did just a year before he died - a privilege no other basicila in the world has. We will see, but so far this still looks like a possible future...
  10. Mea Kulpa

    Mea Kulpa Angels

    I think the venerable fulton sheen's prophecy are more acurate

    "[Satan] will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the [Catholic] Church … It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content.”

    "We are living in the days of the Apocalypse, the last days of our era. The two great forces – the Mystical Body of Christ and the Mystical Body of the anti-Christ – are beginning to draw battle lines for the catastrophic contest.

    The False prophet will have a religion without a cross. A religion without a world to come. A religion to destroy religions. There will be a counterfeit Church.

    Christ’s Church the Catholic Church will be one; and the false Prophet will create the other.

    The False Church will be worldly, ecumenical, and global.

    It will be emptied of all Divine content, it will be the mystical body of the anti-christ. The Mystical Body on earth today will have its Judas Iscariot, and he will be the false prophet. Satan will recruit him from our Bishops.

    The Antichrist will not be so called; otherwise he would have no followers. He will not wear red tights, nor vomit sulphur, nor carry a trident nor wave an arrowed tail as Mephistopheles in Faust. This masquerade has helped the Devil convince men that he does not exist. When no man recognizes, the more power he exercises. God has defined Himself as “I am Who am,” and the Devil as “I am who am not.”

    Nowhere in Sacred Scripture do we find warrant for the popular myth of the Devil as a buffoon who is dressed like the first “red.” Rather is he described as an angel fallen from heaven, as “the Prince of this world,” whose business it is to tell us that there is no other world. His logic is simple: if there is no heaven there is no hell; if there is no hell, then there is no sin; if there is no sin, then there is no judge, and if there is no judgment then evil is good and good is evil. But above all these descriptions, Our Lord tells us that he will be so much like Himself that he would deceive even the elect–and certainly no devil ever seen in picture books could deceive even the elect. How will he come in this new age to win followers to his religion?

    The pre-Communist Russian belief is that he will come disguised as the Great Humanitarian; he will talk peace, prosperity and plenty not as means to lead us to God, but as ends in themselves …

    The third temptation in which Satan asked Christ to adore him and all the kingdoms of the world would be His, will become the temptation to have a new religion without a Cross, a liturgy without a world to come, a religion to destroy a religion, or a politics which is a religion–one that renders unto Caesar even the things that are God’s.

    In the midst of all his seeming love for humanity and his glib talk of freedom and equality, he will have one great secret which he will tell to no one: he will not believe in God. Because his religion will be brotherhood without the fatherhood of God(masonry), he will deceive even the elect. He will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the Church, because he, the Devil, is the ape of God. It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content. It will be a mystical body of the Antichrist that will in all externals resemble the mystical body of Christ …

    But the twentieth century will join the counterchurch because it claims to be infallible when its visible head speaks ex cathedra on the subject of economics and politics, and as chief shepherd of world communism.

    Which corrosponds to John Paul II warning

    "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has gone through. I do not think that wide circles of American society or wide circles of the Christian community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-Church, of the Gospel versus the anti-Gospel."

    Which is referenced by fr linus clovis recent(ish) talk found here


    So rather than the church being destroyed by the antichurch as that could never happen both will exist alongside each other with the true church being suppressed hidden in the feild like a great jewel... as the wheat among the tares

    I think we can all now to some degree see this is so, as the warning of JPII becomes ever more clear
  11. Mea Kulpa

    Mea Kulpa Angels

    Yes i have heard this also and consider it to be very crediable
  12. Byron

    Byron Archangels

    Exactly what is happening today. Masonry and Communism have infiltrated our Churches, media, schools, government, etc. It is the war against an atheistic global world.
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  13. Byron

    Byron Archangels

    Google the Supreme Court of Jerusalem. There it tells you what we are up against.
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  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    The end-game for Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet is to destroy the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. When the protestant teaching on the mass is accepted, we will know that Masonry has reached its pinnacle and Daniel chapter 11 and the Abomination of Desolation will have occurred. This has taken a huge leap forward under Pope Francis.
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  15. Byron

    Byron Archangels

    Even watching the actions of the monarchy today shows how advanced Masonry has seeped into the Church.
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  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    There is no doubt in my mind that the Antichrist is already governing the events in the world through his puppets. He is the one behind the apostasy in the church and the cozening up with protestants to create a universal worship by taking the sacrifice out of the liturgy and accepting the Protestant liturgy. He is the one who's behind he general apostasy in the Church. He is the one who behind the many Masons within the walls of the Vatican in sheeps clothing. He is the one behind the daily war trumpets sounding and is waiting for the angel of God to permit him to wage global nuclear war and collapse societies, governments and economies. He is the one behind those who lie in wait to physically destroy the Vatican and then take his seat on his throne where he will govern the world through the 7 heads (Masonic Lodges) around the world and the 10 horns (leaders) he has chosen to exact persecution among the faithful. It is all in God's control, but the stage is set for the curtain to open.
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  17. Byron

    Byron Archangels

    Fatima, who do you think it is? The priest who headed the Marian movement, said, the antichrist is alive today, and will head the United Nations.
  18. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    Yes, which was built by the Rothschild family and donated!

    As well look at the flags of south American nations and the symbolism contained in them. Also. like that as well of places like Haiti. Much more symbolism, in fact it is everywhere. This is one of the big downfalls of our enemy in fact. It is secret yet can not help but proclaim itself through it's symbolism. Yet, many of us look right past it everyday. These symbols have meaning or they would not still be in use today. A great many have fallen asleep, lulled into a dream like state with the little lies of a modernist world. It is all simply advertising right? It can't actually mean anything!

    Did anyone else find it interesting that France was held up as one of the nations which has already changed the Lords Prayer? Go back and read what was posted in the beginning of this thread...

    "Here is the full text of Maximin Giraud's Secret:

    On September 19, 1846, we saw a beautiful Lady. We never said that this lady was the Blessed Virgin but we always said that it was a beautiful Lady.

    I do not know if it is the Blessed Virgin or another person. As for me, I believe today that it is the Blessed Virgin.

    Here is what this Lady said to me:

    “If my people continue, what I will say to you will arrive earlier, if it changes a little, it will be a little later.

    France has corrupted the universe, one day it will be punished. The faith will die out in France: three quarters of France will not practice religion anymore, or almost no more, the other part will practice it without really practicing it. Then, after [that], nations will convert, the faith will be rekindled everywhere."


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  19. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    The blue in the Russian Flag is in honor of Our Lady.
    I believe it is the only flag in the world to honor her.

    Is it a coincidence that Russia will be the tool which God will use to bring the West back to Christianity?
    I think not...
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  20. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    It was Cardinal Cocopalmiero's secretary who hosted the orgy in the Vatican. Cocaine was the drug of choice at the orgy. I reckon that Cocaine must be in the Vatican's drinking water for a Cardinal of the Church to come up with a statement like this:

    We say, everything is valid; nothing is valid. Maybe we have to reflect on this concept of validity or invalidity. The Second Vatican Council said there is a true communion [between Catholics and Protestants] even if it is not yet definitive or full. You see, they made a concept not so decisive, either all or nothing. There’s a communion that is already good, but some elements are missing. But, if you say some things are missing and that therefore there is nothing, you err. There are pieces missing, but there is already a communion, but it is not full communion. The same thing can be said, or something similar, of the validity or invalidity of ordination. I said let’s think about it. It’s a hypothesis. Maybe there is something, or maybe there’s nothing — a study, a reflection.
    He's talking about the source and summit of our Faith. Do these people have any faith at all or are they total apostates? The Fathers at Trent would have kicked his backside so hard he would have landed in the Tiber yet we're supposed to believe that he's being guided by the Holy Spirit? There's nothing holy about the spirit guiding this wrecking ball inside the Vatican.

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