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Discussion in 'Coffee House' started by "Quis ut Deus", Apr 28, 2015.

  1. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" Powers Staff Member

    I had a very very vivid dream last night, What made it very real for me was the message in the dream was from St Bernard who I have never known or read about, He was pointing to a room and told me to go and read the message when I went into the room a Iconic picture of Jesus was in a glass prism the picture looked like the one I have added below, When I approached the glass prism I could not see anything only the picture of Jesus pointing,then everything changed I was in a glass prism within a prism within another prism everything was spinning slowly until I was looking from behind the picture of Jesus as if looking through it the hand of Jesus was pointing to a note on the glass, It read The Mother of God forum is in danger and under attack be careful.

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  2. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Mary, we look to you to place your Mantle over us. O Lord, disrupt the communication among evil spirits and thwart the attempts to attack this little community. St. Joseph, pray for us!

    Let God arise and his enemies be scattered! Let those who hate Him melt like wax before the fire!

    Safe in the Flames of the Sacred Heart!
     
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  3. Spirit of Truth

    Spirit of Truth Archangels

    Hi, dear John. It seems to me you're having quite a bit of activity lately.

    I do not wish to be too bold.. well its not my dream, but to me if I may, it does seem like it may be a message regarding: reflecting, distracting the truth i.e. certain messages, posts that look good in parts; shiny trinkets; quite alluring; a certain duplication, misinformation in the mix. There is only one truth: that thereof; there is no other - be careful. On watch. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you.

    On a brighter note.
    ah, yes, it is a lovely "little community" of many good souls - God love and guide you all!
     
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  4. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" Powers Staff Member

    I think the dream all makes sense to me now, hopefully I can explain, a week or two ago Woman clothed with the sun posted a comment ( link here---) http://motheofgod.com/threads/how-to-get-to-garabandal-to-see-the-miracle.2366/page-2#post-84133

    I was going to reply to that comment suggesting that the sign/identification could be simply the symbols used in the icon that represents the Mother of God i.e the orthodox symbols on the icon picture that he posted..I forgot to reply to that thread..

    In my dream last night when I was searching for the message that St Bernard told me to read, the symbols in the picture of Jesus were moving randomly fast and slow and I was trying to figure out what they were saying, so there was a definite reason why an Icon picture and symbols were being used in my dream..I feel for sure that I was being told this warning to warn those in the "how to get to Garabandal thread" not to place any symbol or item on their person that identifies them as followers of Christ, I think the dream was warning the forum members to be careful in case they come under attack..

    Or I might just be plain nuts..:confused::oops::oops::p

    I just read this ..it makes even more sense now St Bernard is the patron saint of mountain travelers..;)

    St Bernard of Montjoux was probably born in Italy. He became a priest, was made Vicar General of Aosta, and spent more than four decades doing missionary work in the Alps. He built schools and churches in the diocese but is especially remembered for two Alpine hospices he built to aid lost travelers in the mountain passes named Great and Little Bernard, after him. The men who ran them in time became Augustinian canons regular and built a monastery. The Order continued into the twentieth century. He was proclaimed the patron saint of Alpinists and mountain climbers by Pope Pius XI in 1923. He is sometimes fallaciously referred to as Bernard of Menthon and the son of Count Richard of Menthon, which he was not. His feast day is May 28th.

    Bernard became patron and protector of skiers because of his four decades spent in missionary work throughout the Alps.
     
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  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The Mother of God forum is in danger and under attack be careful.

    Powerful prophecy!

    Padraig has always asked us to pray for the forum for this very reason.

    There is an explosion of wickedness as we can see in the news every night so anything is possible! Somehow this year I sense the enemy has been greatly strengthened and as the darkness has deepened so the Light Shines the More Brightly.

    This site is a shining beacon in the darkness.
     
  6. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers Staff Member

    It is so interesting to me John that first you had your attack and then you have this dream. Dreams, visions, locutions, etc are some of the ways we get consolation from God the father, which is the only consolations we should ever desire. We must not seek consolations from worldly stuff or people but from God alone. I go back to what I said to you before about your attack. I believe that God allows these times of attack and temptations as tests to help us grow stronger in our trust and faith ie our spirituality. Jesus has warned countless mystics that the dark times in our walk with the Lord will come when we will feel that the Lord has left us. This is when temptations come and the attacks come and then we must learn to overcome them with our faith and trust. These are the hard tests but the small triumphs through Christ teach us so much and we grow closer to Him. First you had the attack and now you get the reward, an encounter with the Lord through a dream. I have noticed this pattern in my own walk with God. I get an attack or get a period where I just feel blah or rotten and prayer becomes hard, but when I endure through those times, a great consolation comes and I feel I come even closer to the Lord. As I have been discovering these things, I then get the confirmation of these thoughts through other forms of medium, like the bible, books, this forum etc. All this I am talking about now I just got confirmation on in the past week through my reading of Imitation of Christ. This book is a treasure and one to truly keep by your side to read. Here are some readings further on this topic:

    The Eighth Chapter
    THE INTIMATE FRIENDSHIP OF JESUS
    WHEN Jesus is near, all is well and nothing seems difficult. When He is absent, all is hard. When Jesus does not speak within, all other comfort is empty, but if He says only a word, it brings great consolation.

    The Ninth Chapter
    WANTING NO SHARE IN COMFORT
    IT IS not hard to spurn human consolation when we have the divine. It is, however, a very great thing indeed to be able to live without either divine or human comforting and for the honor of God willingly to endure this exile of heart, not to seek oneself in anything, and to think nothing of one's own merit.

    A man must fight long and bravely against himself before he learns to master himself fully and to direct all his affections toward God. When he trusts in himself, he easily takes to human consolation. The true lover of Christ, however, who sincerely pursues virtue, does not fall back upon consolations nor seek such pleasures of sense, but prefers severe trials and hard labors for the sake of Christ.

    When, therefore, spiritual consolation is given by God, receive it gratefully, but understand that it is His gift and not your meriting. Do not exult, do not be overjoyed, do not be presumptuous, but be the humbler for the gift, more careful and wary in all your actions, for this hour will pass and temptation will come in its wake.

    When consolation is taken away, do not at once despair but wait humbly and patiently for the heavenly visit, since God can restore to you more abundant solace.

    This is neither new nor strange to one who knows God's ways, for such change of fortune often visited the great saints and prophets of old. Thus there was one who, when grace was with him, declared: "In my prosperity I said: 'I shall never be moved.'" But when grace was taken away, he adds what he experienced in himself: "Thou didst hide Thy face, and I was troubled." Meanwhile he does not despair; rather he prays more earnestly to the Lord, saying: "To Thee, O Lord, will I cry; and I will make supplication to my God." At length, he receives the fruit of his prayer, and testifying that he was heard, says "The Lord hath heard, and hath had mercy on me: the Lord became my helper." And how was he helped? "Thou hast turned," he says, "my mourning into joy, and hast surrounded me with gladness."[14]

    If this is the case with great saints, we who are weak and poor ought not to despair because we are fervent at times and at other times cold, for the spirit comes and goes according to His will. Of this the blessed Job declared: "Thou visitest him early in the morning, and Thou provest him suddenly."

    In what can I hope, then, or in whom ought I trust, save only in the great mercy of God and the hope of heavenly grace? For though I have with me good men, devout brethren, faithful friends, holy books, beautiful treatises, sweet songs and hymns, all these help and please but little when I am abandoned by grace and left to my poverty. At such times there is no better remedy than patience and resignation of self to the will of God.

    I have never met a man so religious and devout that he has not experienced at some time a withdrawal of grace and felt a lessening of fervor. No saint was so sublimely rapt and enlightened as not to be tempted before and after. He, indeed, is not worthy of the sublime contemplation of God who has not been tried by some tribulation for the sake of God. For temptation is usually the sign preceding the consolation that is to follow, and heavenly consolation is promised to all those proved by temptation. "To him that overcometh," says Christ, "I will give to eat of the Tree of Life."[16] Divine consolation, then, is given in order to make a man braver in enduring adversity, and temptation follows in order that he may not pride himself on the good he has done.

    The devil does not sleep, nor is the flesh yet dead; therefore, you must never cease your preparation for battle, because on the right and on the left are enemies who never rest.

    The Tenth Chapter
    APPRECIATING GOD'S GRACE
    WHY do you look for rest when you were born to work? Resign yourself to patience rather than to comfort, to carrying your cross rather than to enjoyment.

    What man in the world, if he could always have them, would not readily accept consolation and spiritual joy, benefits which excel all earthly delights and pleasures of the body? The latter, indeed, are either vain or base, while spiritual joys, born of virtue and infused by God into pure minds, are alone truly pleasant and noble.

    Now, since the moment of temptation is always nigh, since false freedom of mind and overconfidence in self are serious obstacles to these visitations from heaven, a man can never enjoy them just as he wishes.

    God does well in giving the grace of consolation, but man does evil in not returning everything gratefully to God. Thus, the gifts of grace cannot flow in us when we are ungrateful to the Giver, when we do not return them to the Fountainhead. Grace is always given to him who is duly grateful, and what is wont to be given the humble will be taken away from the proud.

    I do not desire consolation that robs me of contrition, nor do I care for contemplation that leads to pride, for not all that is high is holy, nor is all that is sweet good, nor every desire pure, nor all that is dear to us pleasing to God. I accept willingly the grace whereby I become more humble and contrite, more willing to renounce self.

    Always take the lowest place and the highest will be given you, for the highest cannot exist apart from the lowest. The saints who are greatest before God are those who consider themselves the least, and the more humble they are within themselves, so much the more glorious they are. Since they do not desire vainglory, they are full of truth and heavenly glory. Being established and strengthened in God, they can by no means be proud. They attribute to God whatever good they have received; they seek no glory from one another but only that which comes from God alone. They desire above all things that He be praised in themselves and in all His saints -- this is their constant purpose.

    Be grateful, therefore, for the least gift and you will be worthy to receive a greater. Consider the least gift as the greatest, the most contemptible as something special. And, if you but look to the dignity of the Giver, no gift will appear too small or worthless. Even though He give punishments and scourges, accept them, because He acts for our welfare in whatever He allows to befall us.

    He who desires to keep the grace of God ought to be grateful when it is given and patient when it is withdrawn. Let him pray that it return; let him be cautious and humble lest he lose it.

    The Eleventh Chapter
    FEW LOVE THE CROSS OF JESUS
    JESUS has always many who love His heavenly kingdom, but few who bear His cross. He has many who desire consolation, but few who care for trial. He finds many to share His table, but few to take part in His fasting. All desire to be happy with Him; few wish to suffer anything for Him. Many follow Him to the breaking of bread, but few to the drinking of the chalice of His passion. Many revere His miracles; few approach the shame of the Cross. Many love Him as long as they encounter no hardship; many praise and bless Him as long as they receive some comfort from Him. But if Jesus hides Himself and leaves them for a while, they fall either into complaints or into deep dejection. Those, on the contrary, who love Him for His own sake and not for any comfort of their own, bless Him in all trial and anguish of heart as well as in the bliss of consolation. Even if He should never give them consolation, yet they would continue to praise Him and wish always to give Him thanks. What power there is in pure love for Jesus -- love that is flee from all self-interest and self-love!

    http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imb2.html#RTFToC85
     
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  7. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" Powers Staff Member

    Very beautiful Andy indeed a treasure..
     
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  8. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    I love St. Bernard! He was known for his intense devotion to the Mother of God. There's a story that he was always praying the rosary. One day as he passed a statue of the Blessed Mother in the chapel he heard her say, "Hail, Bernard!"

    God grant me the devotion that my "Hail Mary's" will inspire such a sweet mother to call out to me one day, "Hail, Kathy!"
     
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  9. Indy

    Indy Praying

    I discern that is a very genuine warning in your dream. Lets all say a few prayers for this forum and that this attack or deception can be revealed or even removed. Any of us could be used to attack so lets also continue to pray for each other. I have also been under some kind of attack lately so please also pray for me, thanks.
     
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  10. Spirit of Truth

    Spirit of Truth Archangels

    They say great minds think alike; but great hearts triumph. Send then in love, ascend oh fair dove oh sweet fathers arms above - ah, much love!

    Ah, when one becomes love all hell loses its bonds.. in effect God loosens your chains.

    Therefore there is no better step made towards God than in love - Pray this way!

    God Bless!
     
  11. Bella

    Bella Principalities

    Padraig - plse could you e-mail me. I can't contact you...

    B
     
  12. misericordia

    misericordia New Member

    As a bit of a dream interpreter, I would say St Bernard might be a reference to St Bernard rescue dogs what with the Nepalese earthquake and all.

    Your three 'prisms', might be 'prisons'. Maybe Our Lord is limited by the prisons we put him in; (as the Divine Will would have it), our intellect, our will and our acts either release him or bind him by respecting our free will.

    On the other hand, prisms break light beams into the corresponding colour sprectrum, this is His Grace.

    I believe the icon is called the "Pantocrator",
    The word Pantocrator is of Greek origin meaning "ruler of all". Christ Pantocrator is an icon of Christ represented full or half-length and full-faced. He holds the book of the Gospels in his left hand and blesses with his right hand.
    Do we hold back His blessing by our inaction?

    "Mother of God Forum is in danger", might mean something as simple as ....in danger of becoming trite if we don't really pray for those lost.
     
  13. padraig

    padraig New Member

    It's fun being a Spiritual Sherlock Holmes and guessing dreams meanings. Of course the interpretation of dreams is a Gift from God but like doing cross word puzzles I like to have a try anyway.:)

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  14. padraig

    padraig New Member

    St Bernard of Clairvaux was the founder of Modern Devotion to Our Bless Lady so there is a direct connection to things Marian right away.

    He was a member of the Cistercian Order, as was I so another little seal of Truth.

    The third little seal of Truth comes in the style of the dream which is very like that of Bernard himself. Using loads of symbolism and numbers.

    But my wild guess is a prism bends light beautifully, like a rainbow. The three prisms are the hiding of the Blessed Trinity. That God has been keeping the forum secret but now warns that what was hidden is about to be made known...

    Luke 8:17

    The Lesson of the Lamp
    16"Now no one after lighting a lamp covers it over with a container, or puts it under a bed; but he puts it on a lampstand, so that those who come in may see the light. 17"For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light. 18"So take care how you listen; for whoever has, to him more shall be given; and whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has shall be taken away from him."


    Pure guessing but fun.
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  15. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    Is Scotland Yard hiring Padraig? If so your sleuthing should put you in good stead for an investigator post.
     
  16. Mario

    Mario Powers

    :LOL::LOL::LOL:!

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
  17. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Indy,

    I'm lifting you up in prayer!

    Safe in the Father's Arms!
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig New Member

    prayers going up, Indy
     
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  19. "Quis ut Deus"

    "Quis ut Deus" Powers Staff Member

    Count me in too..

    Sorry Brother Padraig (sherlock-less) I couldn't resist

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  20. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers Staff Member

    Funny experience about St. Bernard. A very close, devout friend of mine, who was instrumental in my return back to the church a few years ago, had an interesting St. Bernard encounter during lent. He had a dream one night of a saint that came to him. The saint revealed to him that he was St. Bernard. The saint then urged him to look up his lost prayer that many do not know of anymore but is a powerful devotion that St. Bernard wanted him to pray and share. When he awoke, he admittedly did not know much of the saint. He began his search and found the devotion to the shoulder wound of Christ. He was shocked because earlier in the week or possibly even that day before the dream (I can't recall timing because it was a few years ago) he and I were discussion the Passion of our Lord and talking about his wounds and and placing much meditation on the wounds. Neither one of us knew of the shoulder wound of Christ. Needless to say we began to pray it, meditate on it and share it.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/kathys...f-clairvaux-and-the-shoulder-wound-of-christ/

    Padre Pio, Bernard of Clairvaux, and the Shoulder Wound of Christ
    April 30, 2014 by Kathy Schiffer
    What do medieval mystic St. Bernard of Clairvaux and modern monk St. Padre Pio have in common?

    Well, they’re both saints, sharing in the eternal reward which God has prepared for them.

    But beyond that, both had a sincere devotion to the Shoulder Wound of Christ.

    * * * * *

    SAINT BERNARD OF CLAIRVAUX, the French abbott and mystic who helped to renew the Cistercian Order in the twelfth century, related in the Annals of Clairvaux a conversation he’d had with Our Lord. He prayed, asking Jesus which was His greatest unrecorded suffering; and the Lord answered him:

    “I had on My Shoulder while I bore My Cross on the Way of Sorrows, a grievous Wound which was more painful than the others, and which is not recorded by men. Honor this Wound with thy devotion, and I will grant thee whatsoever thou dost ask through its virtue and merit. And in regard to all those who shall venerate this Wound, I will remit to them all their venial sins, and will no longer remember their mortal sins.”

    * * * * *

    ST. PIO OF PIETRELCINA, Capuchin friar, priest and mystic, died in 1968. Padre Pio was known as a confessor and a holy man who for more than 50 years bore the wounds of Christ (the stigmata) on his hands and feet.

    In a book published in the Italian language by St. Pio’s friary, titled Il Papa e Il Frate[​IMG], author Stefano Campanella reported that the future St. Pio had once had a very interesting conversation with Karol Wojtyla, the future St. John Paul II.

    According to Campanella, Fr. Wojtyla asked Padre Pio which of his wounds caused the most pain. Fr. Wojtyla expected Padre Pio to say that it was his chest wound; but instead Padre Pio replied, “It is my shoulder wound, which no one knows about and has never been cured or treated.”

    In 2008, forty years after Padre Pio’s death, author Frank Rega wrote about Padre Pio:

    At one time, Padra had confided to Brother Modestino Fucci, now the doorkeeper at Padre Pio’s friary in San Giovanni Rotondo, Italy, that his greatest pains occurred when he changed his undershirt. Brother Modestino, like Father Wojtyla, thought that Padre Pio was referring to pains from the chest wound. Then, on February 4, 1971, Brother Modestino was assigned the task of taking an inventory of all the items in the deceased Padre’s cell in the friary, and also his belongings in the archives. That day he discovered that one of Padre Pio’s undershirts bore a circle of bloodstains in the area of the right shoulder.

    On that very evening, Brother Modestino asked Padre Pio in prayer to enlighten him about the meaning of the bloodstained undershirt. He asked Padre to give him a sign if he truly bore Christ’s shoulder wound. Then he went to sleep, awakening at 1:00 a.m. with a terrible, excruciating pain in his shoulder, as if he had been sliced with a knife up to the shoulder bone. He felt that he would die from the pain if it continued, but it lasted only a short time. Then the room became filled with the aroma of a heavenly perfume of flowers–the sign of Padre Pio’s spiritual presence–and he heard a voice saying “This is what I had to suffer!”

    * * * * *

    St. Bernard of Clairvaux, after receiving the message from Christ regarding the pain He experienced in His shoulder, sought to foster devotion to the Shoulder Wound of Christ, and penned this prayer:

    Prayer to the Shoulder Wound of Christ

    Most loving Jesus, meek Lamb of God, I, a miserable sinner, salute and worship the most Sacred Wound of Thy Shoulder on which Thou didst bear Thy heavy Cross which so toreThy flesh and laid bare Thy Bones as to inflict on Thee an anguish greater than any other wound of Thy Most Blessed Body. I adore Thee, O Jesus most sorrowful; I praise and glorify Thee, and give The thanks for this most sacred and painful Wound, beseeching Thee by that exceeding pain, and by the crushing burden of Thy heavy Cross to be merciful to me, a sinner, to forgive me all my mortal and venial sins, and to lead me on towards Heaven along the Way of Thy Cross. Amen.

    (Imprimatur: +Thomas D. Beven, Bishop of Springfield.)
     
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