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The third secret of Fatima....new developments.

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by Beth B, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Yes, I think this is it.

    But the bottom line is The Consecration has not been done....and it needs doing.
     
  2. AED

    AED Powers

    This makes a lot of sense. We did have an era of peace through the 80's although things got bad in Bosnia in the 90's and the first shot across the bow from Bin Ladin in the early 90's with first World Trade Center bombing. Warnings that were not heeded. We are on the whole a stiff necked and rebellious people as we're the Israelites our spiritual ancestors. Christendom these days is a disgrace and we need a shock to bring us back to God. I think we are going to get it.
     
  3. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    I don't think we truly understand just what our Lady meant by a period of Peace....what Peace actually means from heaven's point of view. I believe that this period wasn't just to gift defective humans with a happy time...some kind of earthly reward for enjoying this life on earth more, or just an absence of war for continuing civilization. I think perhaps it was always meant for a time period and a setting that would encourage souls to spiritually prepare themselves for the New Era where only those fully "spiritualized" and purified can live in the Divine Will fully....live finally "on earth as it is in heaven", thus fulfilling the Will of the Father from the beginning and lost by the first parents.

    Since we had to completely obey what was necessary for this great grace to occur...which in itself was not something difficult to accomplish....this time period for preparation of souls unfortunately has been shortened. That is why our Lady has been so sad at the thought of so many souls continuing to be lost. It's souls that are the focus for this period of peace. So they won't be lost. I also think that due to our Lady's sadness because of the delay of the Church giving her what she asked for, we have been given that greatest gift of the Divine Mercy devotion for these times so as many souls can still be saved..... through the help of others praying this devotion, esp. for the sick and dying. If we had done as asked perhaps this time of great Mercy would not have been necessary....and that is why once the Warning occurs there will be only Justice. So since so many souls are now being lost it can only mean that such a grace for saving souls, the right conditions, has not been drawn down because heaven is still waiting the fulfillment of its requests....coming "late" as stated.
     
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  4. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    Now, 9 days before 13th October 2017, the time comes to clarify the Secret.

    January 4, 1944:


    Now I will reveal the third part of the secret;
    This part is the apostasy in the Church!
    Our Lady showed us a vision of someone who I describe as the 'Pope', standing in front of a praising multitude.
    But there was a difference with a real Pope, the evil look, this one had eyes of evil.
    Then after a few moments we saw the same Pope entering a church, but this church was like the church of hell, there is no way to describe the ugliness of this place, it seemed like a fortress made of gray cement, with broken angles and windows like eyes, there was a beak on top of the building.
    We then looked up at Our Lady who said to us: you have seen the apostasy in the Church, this message can be opened by The Holy Father, but must be announced after Pius XII and before 1960.
    During the kingdom of John Paul II the cornerstone from Peter's tomb must be removed and transferred to Fatima.
    Because the Dogma of faith is not preserved in Rome, her authority will be removed and given to Portugal.
    The cathedral of Rome must be destroyed and a new one built in Fatima.
    If 69 weeks after this command is announced Rome continues its abomination, the city will be destroyed.
    Our Lady told us this is written, Daniel 9 24-25 and Mathew 21 42-44.
    Then we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendour that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: 'something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White 'we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

    1. you do not have to be a grafologist to see, that 3th official version is only description of the original version, and that the found document is true, but it is only the first page of the secret (the page is not ended with dot!)
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    2. about the apostasy in the Church we do not need to talk, because not only priests and the responsible Head are guilty, but almost all Christians are guilty of inadequate love to God and brothers.

    3. The cathedral of Rome must be destroyed. If 69 weeks after this command is announced Rome continues its abomination, the city will be destroyed. Our Lady told us this is written, Daniel 9 24-25 and Mathew 21 42-44
    In human words, the Church must be crucified as Jesus was. Since 69 annual weeks after january 1944 Rome continued its abomination, the city was destroyed in 2013 (February 11).
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    4. Then we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand... the Angel cried out in a loud voice: 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: 'something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it'
    They see the Illumination of Conscience, the Warning, which is connected with st. Michael (read Revelation... who angel cried in a laud voice three times: Penance and when he did it?).

    5. About the persecution after the Warning it does not make sense to speak now.
     
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  5. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    The above is a load of Cobblers.

    The Mystical body of Christ is not buildings, it is made up of souls, yes our souls if we are united with Christ.

    The best description I ever read about the Mystical body of Christ is we the people make up the mortar (prayer) to make strong the Shepherds who are the stones. And the Shepherds make available the Sacraments instituted by Jesus Christ for our spiritual food on our earthly pilgrimage, along with the Gospels and scriptural readings.

    United in prayer and love and Holiness, the Mystical body of Christ endures. Buildings can be replaced souls can't.
     
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    Little Voice can you give me links to this information. I want to read further. Who has authenticated it?
     
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  7. And what about the shepherds disguised as wolves?
    Since Pope Benedict remains the valid pope what does this say about the people around him?
     
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  8. archangel michael

    archangel michael Moderator

    Little voice can you expand on the information you wrote? where you got it, can it be verified..etc
     
  9. Fiat

    Fiat The Good Shepherd

    Little Voice, this is false. As AED asks, where did you find this? Did you create this on your own?
    Putting this forth as truth shows a poor understanding of the written Scriptures, especially as it has to do with the Old Testament. It is generally accepted that the Daniels 70 week prophesy is comprised of 3 unique segments: a 7 week of years segment; a 62 week of years segment; a final 1 week of years segment. One "week of years" segment equals 7 years. Therefore 7 weeks of years equals 49 years; 62 weeks of years equals 434 years and the 1 week of years equals 7 years. In total 70 weeks x 7 years = 490 years. LV this is Bible 101. I suggest a good review of the Bible before you go off running on wild goose chases to allow a better discrenment of what is legitimate vs. the large amount of garbage put forth these days. As the world enters into turmoil, and the AntiChrist enters the arena, it will be CRITICAL for every Christian to be able to discern the true Christ vs. the AntiChrist and true dogma from false dogma. Satan's job is to confuse the elect and plant seeds of doubt as to what is right and what is wrong. As Sister Lucia says, this is the time of diabolical disorentation!
     
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  10. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    The simplest reply to your question is in all charity, I do not share your views. We just need to keep watch and pray. God will take care of the rest. In Him we must Trust, and praying for Our Shepherds is a duty of care for ordinary people.
     
  11. Indeed it is a time of diabolical disorientation.
    Pope Benedict remains the valid pope and Bishop of Rome.
    Bergoglio falsifies church teaching on marriage, confession and the Eucharist in his published writings in Amoris Laetitia. The church hierarchy is split and schism looms.
    That is where the Catholic Church now sadly is.
     
  12. Watch and pray while a false shepherd Fr Bergoglio SJ scatters the flock with false teaching?
    That has been happening since the invalid papal conclave of 2013.
    Pope Benedict initiated this crisis.
    I have no idea why.
     
  13. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    How is he false?
     
  14. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    I have a vague memory of a previous discussion on the forum about that supposed text of the Third Secret. Pretty sure it was debunked but I can't recall all the details. Something about a document supposedly in Sr. Lucy's handwriting but the document couldn't be authenticated and the consensus was that it was a forgery. My memory is sketchy. Perhaps someone else with a better memory could give more details.
     
  15. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    Brothers, as Jew and Catholic I know the Holy Scripture very good. I bring you hope, that your prison is ending. The time in God's meaning is not our time, it is not constant time. His time is measured by love.
     
  16. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Jarg posted the following on another thread in May this year:
    http://motheofgod.com/threads/the-third-secret-of-fatima.10651/page-2#post-173791

    This text of the 3rd secret first appeared to me to be pure nonsense, and the provenance is just horrendous. However now we have a positive graphological study by a reputed graphologist and the confirmation of the study by three more graphologists, one them being considered the top graphology expert in Spain - he is the head professor of graphologists for the Madrid police and is considered 'the expert' go to in the country for the most difficult Police cases. None of them are practicing catholics and they knew little or nothing about Fatima. They are very used to authenticating digital copies for which there is no access to originals, such as the case in question. So this to me is a problem, because such an opinion from four reputable graphologists constitutes a definitive proof in both national or international courts, and so far no one has provided proof against it.

    The #2 problem we have is that John Paul II did actually send a fragment of the tomb of St Peter to Fatima.

    #3 The fact that the name of John Paul II appears makes it even more problematic. Because a good forger would never have mention the name John Paul II and even less so in Spanish when they are writing a letter in perfect portuguese. If they know portuguese so perfectly, why would the forger write the name of JPII in spanish and risk the reputation of the forgery? Why would it also name John Paul II in it - it just sounds so fake, right?

    Yet, in the second secret of Fatima the Virgin uses the words Pious XI and he did not reign yet in 1917.

    So we will see if the "Cathedral of Rome" is destroyed, that is the next step according to this text. If that happens then this text would be incredibly relevant. The Cathedral of Rome is Saint John Lateran and not St Peter as some may think. St John Lateran is the first and oldest of the four basilicas in Rome, the oldest church in the west, and the ecclesiastical seat or cathedral of the Roman Pontiff. Contrary to St Peter Basicila it is not very well secured and it could easily be destroyed by a terrorist attack.
     
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  17. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Sorry...you cannot be Jew and Catholic. You can be Judeo-Christian. Words do mean something. Jew and Catholic is completely different. They are opposite poles.

    :(
     
  18. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    Old hairy legs is more than capable of fooling a graphologist.

    I'm worn out trying to keep up with all these prophecies. How many people claim to have read the secret, know someone who has read it, overheard it being discussed by someone in the know or knows someone who overheard someone? At this stage, a book of Third Secrets would be as thick as War & Peace.

    The imperfect consecration was accepted in Heaven because the Pope at the time wanted it done properly. That gave us some remission. After the fall of the Soviet Union, we doubled down on sin rather than mending our ways. Some of our shepherds started a movement to overturn Church teaching on marriage, undermine the sitting Pope and put their man on St. Peter's seat. We got a few decades before they were successful. We have had our period of peace and blew it.

    We don't really need any more disclosures of the Third Secret to know what's coming down the line. Sr. Lucy told Cardinal Caffara that the final battle with Satan will be over marriage. The battle is on. Very many Catholics have joined the opposition as have nuns, priests and bishops. This battle could drag on for decades. Our armour is prayer, especially the Rosary and our sustenance is the Blessed Eucharist.

    Incidentally, the loss of St. John Lateran or even the Vatican wouldn't cause me to lose much sleep. They're little more than museums these days. There's more reverence for God in our local parish Church than in any of Europe's grand cathedrals.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Well said Dolours!!
     
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  20. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

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