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The Revelation 12 Sign - WCWTS

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Carol55, Jun 1, 2017.

  1. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    Sep to Dec? Why then. And it can’t be this year, it has to be even right?
  2. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    2017=5778 or (2+0+1+7)=10- even numbered year
    2018 - even numbered year
    2019=5780 or (2+0+1+9)=12- even numbered year
  3. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    So 3/4 of all years this century is an even year? I don’t think so. Talk about stretching to find a may to make anything work.
  4. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    No 3/4, but 5/8.

    I recommend to see the Directorium of Liturgical Year. Every liturgical year begins in Advent but its number is of next calendar year.
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2017
  5. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers


    I know some people don't like talking about dates and I am not making any predictions but on November 13th Venus will be in conjunction with Jupiter. This is not so unusual except for the fact that it is occurring on the 13th of the month and of course, this year is the 100th Anniversary of the Fatima apparitions in which the 13th of the month is significant.

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conjunctions_(astronomy) : November 13, 2017 06:10:03 Venus 17' north of Jupiter 13.8° West .

    What also makes the timing of this conjunction interesting is that it occurs 50 days after the Revelation 12 Sign, the Woman Clothed With The Sun, if we use the date of September 24th for the actual occurrence of the sign. We also know that the Holy Spirit came to the disciples 50 days after Christ resurrected.

    This particular Venus/Jupiter conjunction occurring on 11/13/2017 is being watched by many people since it occurs 777 days from the last blood moon of the tetrad in 2014/2015 and the number 7 is thought to symbolize divine perfection or completion in the Bible. The following chart is from Daniel Matson who made this discovery.


    Finally, this is from another "watcher",

    Another thing I found interesting is that this conjunction takes place at the VERY EDGE of the boundary for the constellation Virgo. In a few short days after this conjunction both planets will be out of Virgo (The Woman)... leaving only Mars in the constellation. Mars is often the planet of War... so perhaps this indicates war in Israel after the church departs? I am not saying this is the birth, but just another type of exit from the woman and potentially another piece to the puzzle. It could be something or it could be nothing, but I thought I would share.


    So will anything significant happen on 11/13/2017, I have no idea but I thought that I should mention this anyway.

    God bless you.

    PS- Maybe it's the date of the Formal Correction. The Woman Clothed With The Sun is thought to be the Church in addition to being Mary and Israel, this is from Pope Benedict. So, maybe Mars entering the Church represents the conflict that will occur as a result of the Formal Correction.
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2017
  6. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    Carol I mean no disrespect at all!!
    your argument is strong. Any lurkers who are reading this I wouldn’t worry. Not that we should ever be worrying. But I’m very confident we will wake up on the 14th looking for the next date.

    Not the part you wrote but the next part I find slightly disturbing. Too much astrology
  7. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    Whenever I see these posts with interesting signs in them I always wonder what it means. I always want to more deeply understand or think that it is a harbinger of some kind when the simple truth is that these signs may be far above my understanding and I am like a child when looking at the heavens. Simply in awe of God's majesty.

    I really love the stars and the heavens. I have often wondered when the wise men came to understand the sign given of Our Lord's arrival if they received a vision or a dream to help them understand. I am sure they were much wiser than the vast majority of men of our time.
  8. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Dean, Thank you. I suppose that part of your post refers to some of the text on Daniel Matson's graphic. I am absolutely not suggesting that I support his predictions. His graphic is not even drawn to scale, lol, but it helped demonstrate that there may be something special about November 13th in relation to the Church.

    Don, Thank you also.

    My guess for the Formal Correction occurring on that date is because it makes sense that Cardinal Burke would move forward before Advent and possibly even before Thanksgiving. For all we know he may have moved forward with the correction already, maybe it will become public on the 13th. I do believe that he is going to in fact move forward with it because he stated that he would and on 10/15 he also appeared to be giving us a sign that he would. https://romalocutaest.com/2017/10/1...of-st-thomas-more-a-heads-up-to-pope-francis/ http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edwa...enerates-relic-of-the-head-of-st.-thomas-more
  9. Heidi

    Heidi Archangels

    God does put signs in the heavens. What you wrote is NOT astrology. Astrology is things like horoscopes, where they are using it to predict the future and leaving God completely out of it.
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  10. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    I haven't looked at the following site, Unsealed.org, in awhile but I just found this post and it is very well done, imho.
    The site followed the Revelation 12 Sign and they are still watching the "signs". It is a very sad situation in Damascus and Syria in general,

    Days, Damascus, & The Dow
    Thursday, February 08, 2018 http://www.unsealed.org/2018/02/days-damascus-dow.html

    Isaiah 17:1 (DRA) The burden of Damascus. Behold Damascus shall cease to be a city, and shall be as a ruinous heap of stones.

    From the above article:

    "You can see how destruction is quickly approaching central Damascus as the United Nation's
    most recent damage assessment in the area directly adjacent shows:"


    Syria war: Israel 'strikes Damascus military complex'
    7 February 2018 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42973662

    Syria war: 'Chlorine attack' on rebel-held Idlib town
    5 February 2018 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42944033

    In addition:

    Israeli minister urges gov't to build Jewish temple at Al-Aqsa
    7 February 2018 https://www.dailysabah.com/mideast/...-urges-govt-to-build-jewish-temple-at-al-aqsa

    Finally, from the first article posted:

    "Today, 6 days after the DJIA crashed 666 points, President Trump delivered a stirring speech at the 66th annual National Prayer Breakfast.
    Remember that The Wall Street Journal recently reported that the U.S. government ran a $666 billion deficit in 2017. You can't make this stuff up."​
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  11. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

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  12. Steve79

    Steve79 Angels

    I think such number things are among the games which the evil handcrafters like to do (with us).
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  13. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    It could be a very early sign from heaven which some times happens too or simply a reminder of the evil in the world or from the evil one to cause fear and confusion.

    I should point out that I don't believe that this purported sign is pointing to anyone in particular.

    Exactly but there should be some time before Mr. "666". The "minor chastisement" will be difficult also, then hopefully a long period of peace and then Mr. "666".

    Btw, the divisions between the Arabs in the Middle East appear to be almost at their worst...

    'The Palestinians can go to he--, they betrayed the Arab world'
    Saudi blogger slams Palestinian Authority in viral video, calling PA 'ungrateful dogs'.
    Contact Editor Arutz Sheva Staff, 02/02/18 12:22 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/241481

    While the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is still nominally allied with the Palestinian Authority, a long-time client of the oil-rich custodian of Islam’s holiest cities, recent reports suggest ties between the two have been cooling in recent years.

    Covert cooperation with Israel against the common foe of Iran, along with the support of some Palestinian Arab factions of the Tehran regime, have encouraged the Saudi leadership to push the PA to accept a negotiated peace with Israel, even on terms less favorable than previous offers.

    According to a bombshell report in December, Saudi Arabia is even weighing its own peace agreement with the Jewish state without the establishment of a Palestinian state or final status agreement between Israel and the PA – a fundamental shift in the kingdom’s position.

    The cooling ties between the Saudis and the PA may also reflect a broader frustration within the kingdom for its erstwhile client.

    While public polling is far less common in the kingdom than in the West, and domestic media outlets constrained by state regulators, one Saudi blogger’s recent viral video reflected the changing relationship between the PA and Saudi Arabia.

    In the video, a two-minute rant, the blogger slams the PA as a “pigs” and “dogs” who have lived off of Saudi petrodollars without showing even the slightest appreciation.

    "This message is for the Palestinian pigs who only know how to curse and defame the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and its citizens.

    "With all due respect to the Palestinian Arab minority, you've been milking our economy for decades. We've given you billions upon billions of dollars. Our citizens needed that money, but it went to you.

    "That's right, we gave preference you over ourselves. We gave to you, instead of to our citizens. And what have we gotten in return? You're a bunch of dogs, rabid dogs, who only bark at those that feed them. You've turned your [political] issues into a source of income. You've turned our shared religion [Islam] into a way of making money. You've turned our shared language into a way of making money.

    "You're more hostile towards us than the Israelis are. You wish more for our destruction than you Israel's. You wish upon us the most horrible curses a person can conceive of.

    "You are the ugliest page in our history - like a bad memory that we'd like to forget. We want to tear this page out of [our history] and get rid of it completely, now and forever.

    "We've had to sacrifice having ties with Israel - the most advanced country in the Middle East because of you and your problems and your use of our religion, language, and the fact that you're Arabs [to demand our support].

    "You've made a mockery of your own plight - that's why the world doesn't take you seriously. You were homeless, so we built you houses. You were sick, so we built you hospitals. You were hungry so we gave you billions of dollars. And what did we get in return for our support? In return for all that, you support our enemy [Iran], who didn't give you even one percent of what we've given you.

    "Go to he--, you and your whole 'crisis'. Your situation doesn't interest us anymore at all. We're the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and we have nothing to do with you."
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  14. Byron

    Byron Archangels

    Interesting. Israel and Saudi Arabia teaming up. The Antichrist and False Prophet may just come out of here.
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