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“The Political Pope.”

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by garabandal, May 3, 2017.

  1. Light

    Light Angels


    It seems to me that the Catholic Church is by and large not truly Catholic. I suspect that very many commit sacrilege especially at Sunday Mass by taking Holy Communion unworthily. Everyone goes to receive (most have the appearance of total indifference); I've seen fist pumps, nods, big smiles or hand wave given by some communicants on the way back to the pew.

    Action preach louder than words and nearly all we are seeing has the effect of contributing to the further dilution of the doctrine of the Real Presence. We do not even have any words from preachers on the sacredness of the matter or on the reality of Real Presence to counteract it.

    God Bless.
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  2. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod

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  3. Jarg

    Jarg Principalities

    "they will already feel in their hearts the effect of my Justice, it will be that the heart will say 'the time is not far away...'"

    It really feels that way already. Fatima was a crystal clear warning, it doesn't get more clear than that. We need to stick to our daily duties (our daily work, family, and those in need around us) I guess and continue to pray and be united to God in the sacraments. That is what the Virgin told the shepherds in Fatima, stick to your duties and prayer life, your daily life will then be sanctified, and you will glorify God by your live!
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  4. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Maybe I am a little off my rocker, but if I am being totally honest I have to say I am in a way exhilarated by all of this. Not in a sensationalistic sense, but in the sense that the faithful Catholics of this generation were specially chosen from before time began to help carry the Cross during the Passion of the Church. Aside from actually living during Our Lord's life and being in His vicinity, what greater honor can there be?

    Of course at the same time there is a horror of what is going on, but in some sense there is also a feeling of peace. We know that things are so far gone that man cannot make it right at this point. God is in charge and He will straighten all of this out through the Blessed Mother and His excessive Mercy. We must simply do our part by praying and helping as many to see the truth as possible. Pray, hope, and don't worry. God is Merciful. Even a Chastisement is an act of His Mercy. How many countless souls will be saved that would otherwise be lost if we were not corrected?
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  5. Byron

    Byron Angels

    1995 - "My secret concerns the Church. In the Church, the great apostasy, which will spread throughout the world, will be brought to its completion; the schism will take place through a general alienation from the Gospel and from the true faith. There will enter the man of iniquity, who opposes himself to Christ, and who will bring into her interior the abomination of desolation, thus bringing to fulfillment the horrible sacrilege, of which the prophet Daniel has spoken."
    Locutions from Our Lady to Fr Gobbi.
  6. Byron

    Byron Angels

    Maybe the next phrase will be that "Mass is not a sacrifice, but a thanksgiving..."
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  7. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    When there is a war in the Middle East with the intent to decimate Israel but it does not and the "hero" who saves the day draws up a covenant of peace with many for 7 years then we will know that the abomination of desolation is not far away, 3.5 years to be exact. I think there needs to be two wars one at the beginning of the 7 years and one at the end of the 7 years. The latter of which will be in conjunction with the Second Coming. I don't think that there is going to be an era of peace, I think that we missed that opportunity by not following the blessed mother's requests properly. Yep, I'm the pessimist in the bunch today but I think that Praetorian is correct about saving souls.
  8. Byron

    Byron Angels

    Carol, I think you may be mixing two different scenarios. Fr Gobbi's locutions were all about the Church, and its Priests and Bishops. It's not about Israel, and the building of a third temple, or a war, etc. The quote above from Our Lady to Fr Gobbi speaks of this as a secret. That secret coincides with what Garabandal states. It's about the destruction of our Church from within. It's not about the Second Coming end of the world, but about an intermediate coming before the chastisement, to warn us to change.
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  9. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Byron, I think all of it is tied together and may happen very quickly. The first beast from Revelation 13 has 42 months, I believe that this is the false prophet. If the second beast is the antichrist, he appears to have 7 years as written in Daniel and will set up the abomination of desolation after 3.5 years.
    I am probably over simplifying things but I would think that since the bible states that Jesus will make his name known to the Jews when Israel's enemies attempt to destroy them that this (their enemies will attempt to destroy them) must also occur when the Jews mistake the antichrist for their Messiah. My thought is to be certain of the signs so we can recognize when these things are going to occur.
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  10. Mary's child

    Mary's child Angels

    Sadly I agree with you.
  11. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Well yes, but it is also true that were we find great evil we also find great good.

    Archbishop Fulton Sheen reminded us that what is happening is like a great fire that burns away the dross leaving only what is good and true. There have been attempts to construct a False Church many times before. But they collapsed. That which is not founded on Christ will never stand.

    I suspect if we were to stand in heaven and look down on Earth we would be astonished at the number of great shinning saints we would see. I am ever positive and full of hope. If we were to look at things , the Church as merely an organisation we would despair. But if we see it as the Mystical Body of Christ we would be exultant.

    I am full of hope, we will pass through this terrible darkness and Mary's Immaculate Heart will Triumph as promised.

    But I do think many people are making a mistake as they look at the Church at the moment. They see a great beautiful house. They think things could not be better. When in fact the smoke of Satan has long entered. The house is in fact gnawed by termites utterly rotten and ready at one push to collapse into a heap.

    However when the house collapses we will see a beautiful new Church emerge. However the old one must collapse first. We can actually see, for those with eyes to see, that this is actually happening.
    But I am full of trust and hope.

    These events were long foretold
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  12. Mario

    Mario Powers

    In the Book of Lamentations, Jerusalem is personified by Jeremiah so as emphasize the horror of the destruction and suffering of Judah during the crisis leading to the Exile.

    Lam 1:16 "For these things I weep; my eyes flow with tears; for a comforter is far from me, one to revive my courage; my children are desolate, for the enemy has prevailed."
    17 Zion stretches out her hands, but there is none to comfort her; the LORD has commanded against Jacob that his neighbors should be his foes; Jerusalem has become a filthy thing among them.
    18 "The LORD is in the right, for I have rebelled against his word; but hear, all you peoples, and behold my suffering.

    This morning the breviary's first Psalm was 143, a psalm of David in which he holds himself out as God's servant. I decided to present David's plea as a plea of the universal Church personified! As you say, Padraig, a passing shadow, but how impenetrable the darkness seems at times! But Jesus Christ is risen indeed!

    Lord, listen to my prayer: *
    turn your ear to my appeal.
    You are faithful, you are just; give answer. †
    Do not call your [Church] to judgment *
    for no one is just in your sight.

    The enemy pursues my soul; *
    he has crushed my life to the ground;
    he has made me dwell in darkness *
    like the dead, long forgotten.
    Therefore my spirit fails; *
    my heart is numb within me.

    I remember the days that are past: *
    I ponder all your works.
    I muse on what your hand has wrought †
    and to you I stretch out my hands. *
    Like a parched land my soul thirsts for you.

    Lord, make haste and answer; *
    for my spirit fails within me.
    Do not hide your face *
    lest I become like those in the grave.

    In the morning let me know your love *
    for I put my trust in you.
    Make me know the way I should walk: *
    to you I lift up my soul.

    Rescue me, Lord, from my enemies; *
    I have fled to you for refuge.
    Teach me to do your will *
    for you, O Lord, are my God.
    Let your good spirit guide me *
    in ways that are level and smooth.

    For your name’s sake, Lord, save [Your Church]; *
    in your justice save my soul from distress.

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
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  13. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I love it when the young priest sings the Regina Coeli after mass in the hospital at the moment. I imagine Mary meeting her Risen Son and the joy she felt. I like to believe we all share in this joy. A joy which is Eternal.

    This is a joy that lifts us over the pain of the present. However I am deeply saddened by the souls who may be lost over this, poor souls who are told that evil is fine and not a problem. Hopefully the Just Judge will have mercy.
  14. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod


    Windswept House Echoes in Neumayr Book
    Some of you will recognize the title of a very controversial--but little-read--novel written by Malichi Martin, an ex-Jesuit priest. The novel made some rather shocking allegations about various Catholic Church prelates.

    So happens a priest-friend of mine corresponded with Martin while the book was being written--and Martin gave him a "key" to the characters in the book. The most important U.S. figure was identified as Jos. Cardinal Bernardin of Chicago, whom Martin portrayed as a Satanist.

    I told you it was rather shocking.

    Anyhow.....George Neumayr now reveals a not-shocking bit about Bernardin.

    In the course of researching No Higher Power: Obama’s War on Religious Freedom, I learned that the late Chicago cardinal Joseph Bernardin helped pay for the education of Barack Obama in Saul Alinsky’s ruthless tactics....

    ...Garrow treats Obama’s Bernardin-financed foray to Los Angeles for the IAF training as one of the keys moments in his Alinskyite education. Anyone who doubts the leftist infiltration of the Catholic Church should read that section in Garrow’s book. Socialists disguised as Catholic leaders stood ready to help Obama at almost every turn during his “community organizing.” What I said in No Higher Power — that the Church had bred one of her own destroyers — is abundantly clear in Garrow’s account.

    U.S. Catholics continue to be burdened by Bernardin's legacy: the "Catholic" Campaign for Human Development--which was tossing money hand-over-fist into various Alinskyite entities for years, and continues to do so to this day.

    But ALL U.S. citizens will be burdened by the legacy of Bernardin named Obama.
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  15. picadillo

    picadillo Powers

    Jesuit cardinal Martini was Bernadin's "handler." The pope wrote a preface to a biography of Martini praising him. Windswept House is true. The satanic ceremony of enthronement is true. I have a testimonial of the woman (was a girl then) that Bernadin abused on the altar. I have talked to a seminarian (whom he claimed was represented by Stephen Cook) who were abused by Bernadin and his cronies. I am sworn to secrecy. Sorry DavidT, all lefties, masons, and one-worlders. Cook never recanted about Bernadin, he said he could not trust his memory, a huge betrayal to the 3 seminarians he represented. The pope's philosophy just so happens to mirror theirs. If the pope wanted the truth, all he has to do is contact Steve Brady or any member of RCF. Everyone I know affilliated with RCF is disgusted by this pope. The truth will set you free. Pope Francis is either a simpleton or very evil.
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