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The Immaculate Conception.

Discussion in 'Mother of God' started by padraig, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. Mario

    Mario Powers


    Safe in the Providence of God!
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  2. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    1 Thessalonians, chapter 5

    "Concerning times and seasons, brothers, you have no need for anything to be written to you
    For you yourselves know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief at night.
    When people are saying, “Peace and security,” then sudden disaster comes upon them, like labor pains upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape
    But you, brothers, are not in darkness, for that day to overtake you like a thief
    For all of you are children of the light and children of the day. We are not of the night or of darkness.
    Therefore, let us not sleep as the rest do, but let us stay alert and sober"

    So as Padre Pio said, "Pray, Hope, and Don't Worry" but definitely keep the armor of God up and your lamps lit :)
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  3. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Good quote


  4. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Archangels

    What a wonderful collection of divine tributes to Our Blessed Mother!!
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    “Thou alone and Thy Mother are in all things fair; there is no flaw in Thee and no stain in Thy Mother.” – St. Ephraim (370)

    One of my favorite Deacons that got it right! :D

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
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  6. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    We are so fortunate to have a parish Priest who is very much a Heavenly Mama's boy. Today he reminded everyone at Holy Mass that tomorrow is the great and wonderful day honouring the Immaculate Conception and telling us all to be sure and make a special request for a grace from Blessed Mother between 12 and 1 pm.

    I read on another thread on this Forum we should spend the whole hour in prayer. However our Priest did not ask us to do this, and many people who are at work would not be able to take an hour off on a working day. Just wanted to share the good news.:love:
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  7. Sam

    Sam Archangels

    by St. Maximilian Kolbe


    Just a few hours before his second and final arrest, St. Maximilian Kolbe on February 17, 1941, wrote down
    his last reflections on the Immaculate Conception. The question, "Who are you, O Immaculate Conception?"
    occupied his priestly mind and heart forming him to be a living witness of the power of the Immaculate
    and to die as a living offering of love.

    “IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. These words fell from the lips of the Immaculata herself. Hence, they must tell us in the most precise and essential manner who she really is.

    Since human words are incapable of expressing divine realities, it follows that these words: “Immaculate,” and “Conception” must be understood in a much more profound, much more beautiful and sublime meaning than usual: a meaning beyond that which human reason at its most penetrating, commonly gives to them.

    St. Paul wrote, quoting the Prophet Isaiah: “Things that the eye has not seen, that the ear has not heard, that the heart of man has not imagined” (Is. 64,4), such are the good things that God has prepared for those who love him (I Cor. 2,9). Here, these words apply fully.

    However, we can and should reverently inquire into the mystery of the Immaculata and try to express it with words provided by our intelligence using its own proper powers.

    Who then are you, O Immaculate conception?

    Not God, of course, because he has no beginning. Not an angel, created directly out of nothing. Not Adam, formed out of the dust of the earth (Gen. 2,7). Not Eve, molded from Adam’s rib (Gen. 2,21). Not the Incarnate Word, who exists before all ages, and of whom we should use the word “conceived” rather than “conception”. Humans do not exist before their conception, so we might call them created “conceptions.” But you, O Mary, are different from all other children of Eve. They are conceptions stained by original sin; whereas you are the unique, Immaculate Conception.

    Everything which exists, outside of God himself, since it is from God and depends on him in every way, bears within itself some semblance to its Creator; there is nothing in any creature which does not betray this resemblance, because every created thing is an effect of the Primal cause.

    It is true that the words we use to speak of created realities express the divine perfections only in a halting, limited and analogical manner. They are only a more or less distant echo- as are the created realities that they signify- of the properties of God himself.

    Would not “conception” be an exception to this rule? No; there is never any such exception.

    The Father begets the Son; the Spirit proceeds from Father and Son. These few words sum up the mystery of life of the Most Blessed Trinity and of all the perfections in creatures which are nothing else but echoes, a hymn of praise, a many-hued tableau, of this primary and most wondrous of all mysteries.

    We must perforce use our customary vocabulary, since it is all we have; but we must never forget that our vocabulary is very inadequate.

    Who is the Father? What is his personal life like? It consists in begetting, eternally; because he begets his Son from the beginning, and forever.

    Who is the son? He is the Begotten-One because from the beginning and for all eternity he is begotten by the Father.

    And who is the Holy Spirit? The flowering of the love of the Father and the Son. If the fruit of created love is a created conception, then the fruit of divine Love, that prototype of all created love, is necessarily a divine “conception.” The Holy Spirit is, therefore, the “uncreated, eternal conception,” the prototype of all the conceptions that multiply life throughout the whole universe.

    The Father begets; the Son is begotten; the Spirit is the “conception” that springs from their love; there we have the intimate life of the three Persons by which they can be distinguished one from another. But they are united in the oneness of their Nature, of their divine existence.

    The spirit is, then this thrice holy “conception,” this infinitely holy, Immaculate Conception.

    Everywhere in this world we notice action, and the reaction which is equal but contrary to it; departure and return; going away and coming back; separation and reunion. The separation always looks foreword to union, which is creative. All this is simply an image of the Blessed Trinity in the activity of creatures. Union means love, creative love. Divine activity, outside the Trinity itself, follows the same pattern. First, God creates the universe; that is something like a separation. Creatures, by following the natural law implanted in them by God, reach their perfection, become like him, and go back to him. Intelligent creatures love him in the conscious manner; through this love they unite themselves more and more closely with him, and so find their way back to him. The creature most completely filled with this love, filled with God himself, was the Immaculata, who never contracted the slightest stain of sin, who never departed in the least from God’s will. United to the Holy Spirit as his spouse, she is one with God in an incomparably more perfect way than can be predicated of any other creature.

    What sort of union is this? It is above all an interior union, a union of her essence with the “essence” of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit dwells in her, lives in her. This was true from the first instant of her existence. It was always true; it will always be true.

    In what does this life of the Sprit in Mary consist? He himself is uncreated Love in her; the Love of the Father and of the Son, the Love by which God loves himself, the very love of the Most Holy Trinity. He is a fruitful Love, a “Conception.” Among creatures made in God’s image the union brought about by married love is the most intimate of all (cf. Mt. 19,6). In a much more precise, more interior, more essential manner, the Holy Spirit lives in the soul of the Immaculata, in the depths of her very bring. He makes her fruitful, from the very first instant of her existence, all during her life, and for all eternity.

    This eternal “Immaculate Conception” (which is the Holy Spirit) produces in an immaculate manner divine life itself in the womb (or depths) of Mary’s soul, making her the Immaculate Conception, the human Immaculate Conception. And the virginal womb of Mary’s body is kept sacred for him; there he conceives in time- because everything that is material occurs in time- the human life of the man-God.

    And so the return to God (which is love), that is to say the equal and contrary reaction, follows a different path from that found in creation. The path of creation goes from the Father through the Son by the Holy Spirit; this return trail goes from the Spirit through the Son back to the Father; in other words, by the Spirit the Son becomes incarnate in the Womb of the Immaculata; and through this Son love returns to the Father.

    And she (the Immaculata), grafted into the Love of the Blessed Trinity, becomes from the first moment of her existence and forever thereafter the “complement of the Blessed Trinity”.

    In the Holy Spirit’s union with Mary we observe more than the love of two beings; in one there is all the love of the Blessed Trinity; in the other, all of creation’s love. So it is that in this union heaven and earth are joined; all of heaven with all the earth, the totality of eternal love with the totality of created love. It is truly the summit of love.

    At Lourdes, the Immaculata did not say of herself that she had been conceived immaculately, but, as St. Bernadette repeated, “Que soy era immaculada councepciou”: “I am the Immaculate Conception.”

    If among human beings the wife takes the name of her husband because she belongs to him, is one with him, becomes equal to him and is, with him, the source of new life, with how much greater reason should the name of the Holy Spirit, who is the divine Immaculate Conception, be used as the name of her in whom he lives as uncreated Love, the principle of life in the whole supernatural order of grace?”
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  8. padraig

    padraig New Member

    A meme for your facebook to share. :) Cooked it up myself.

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  9. padraig

    padraig New Member

    But there was another, earlier apparition confirming the Immaculate Conception at the Rue Du Bac on 18 July 1830. Fr Renee Laurentin has an interesting take on these apparitions. He is the worlds leading Mariologist and he suggests that the Rue Du Bac was meant to be the original Lourdes but because the Clerical Authorities in Paris did not act on the requests of Mary there Paris was dropped and heaven choose Lourdes.

    I believe this is true and is reflected in scripture:


    Revelation 12

    The Woman and the Dragon

    13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

    ....and so the flight from Paris to Lourdes, mirroring the flight of the Holy Family from King Herod into Egypt.


    Matthew 2:13

    Now when they had departed, behold,
    an angel of the Lord appeared to
    Joseph in a dream, saying, "Arise
    and take the young child and his
    mother, and flee into Egypt, and stay
    there until I tell you, for Herod will
    seek the young child to destroy him."

  10. Elly

    Elly New Member


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