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The Future of the United States of America.

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by padraig, May 5, 2010.

  1. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro New Member

    I believe that the fall of the United States will occur to facilitate the rise of a new Roman Empire of the West, formed by some European countries. I believe Antichrist will be the leader of this Empire
     
  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I think this is what Father Gobbi wrote on.... Freemasonry, assisted by its ecclesiastical form, will succeed in its great design: that of setting up an idol to put in the place of Christ and of his Church. A false christ and a false church. Consequently, the statue built in honor of the first beast, to be adored by all the inhabitants of the earth and which will seal with its mark all those who want to buy or sell, is that of the Antichrist. You have thus arrived at the peak of the purification, of the great tribulation and of the apostasy. The apostasy will be, as of then, generalized because almost all will follow the false christ and the false church. Then the door will be open for the appearance of the man or of the very person of the Antichrist! (Message 407)

    In this locution, Fr Gobbi (or if you prefer Our Lady through Fr Gobbi) associates the mark of the Beast with the idol fashioned by the False Prophet in Rev 13:

    Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence, and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. (Rev 13:11-15)
     
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  3. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro New Member

    yes, Father Gobbi has revealed important details about the Antichrist and the False Prophet, I believe there will be a union between the state (united Europe) and church (church of antipope)
     
  4. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

    An era or period of peace still separates the coming minor chastisement from the time of the AC and the Second Coming.

    Prophecy says there will be at least one full generation, possibly many more, between the minor chastisement and it’s ending with the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, and the coming of the AC.

    Conjecture about the AC, while understandable, is premature. Prophecy however also says the coming minor chastisement will be so bad many will think it IS the major (end time) chastisement.
     
  5. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    Under this interpretation of prophecy then Rome (or the west) would be the one who has persecuted the church and the saints killing them like no other correct? I have a hard time believing that in light of the history of the Church waring with Islam for so many centuries. It just doesn't fit.
     
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  6. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    I will concede that I could see some European nations joining ranks with this Beast and taking part in the times to come. Not unlike what happened in WWII.
     
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  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

  8. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    Coup and cleanup is my guess.

    https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/927265406171181056

    Saudi Helicopter Carrying 8 High-Ranking Officials & Prince Bin-Muqrin Crashed Near Yemen Border - All Dead

    The shocking latest twist in what has been a chaotic weekend in Saudi Arabia is news that a helicopter transporting 8 high-ranking Saudi officials (including prince Mansour bin-Muqrin) has crashed in the south of the Kingdom, near the border with Yemen.

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    Sky News Arabia confirms an earlier report from Al-Watan news..."Newsletter: loss of a helicopter carrying a number of officials in the southern Asir, Saudi Arabia"

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    — ???? ???? ?????-???? (@SkyNewsArabia_B) November 5, 2017

    Details are few for now but some headlines report that the high-ranking officials aboard included Crown Prince Mansour bin-Muqrin, deputy Emir of Asir province.

    #Saudi state tv just announced the death of Prince Mansour bin Muqrin bin Abdulaziz, Deputy Governor of Asir Region, in a helicopter crash https://t.co/JoT1twshBB

    — SaadAbedine (@SaadAbedine) November 5, 2017

    The following video shows the crown prince and the group of officials just a few short hours before the crash...

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    ?? ???????? ???????? ???????? .. pic.twitter.com/vXa6kSuBsO

    — ?????? ????? ?? ???? (@hrhpmmugrin) November 5, 2017

    This is allegedly the group boarding the chopper (unverified)...

    pic.twitter.com/OQZ4vFypc5

    — abo0o0dy.. (@AbduAseeri) November 5, 2017

    The crash site is reported near Abha, in the south of The Kingdom, near the border with Yemen.

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    There are sources saying all aboard have died...

    KSA :A helicopter with Saudi officials on board(among them : vice-governor of Asir Mansour bin Muqrin) crashed today:all passengers died https://t.co/8vrf5bTybP

    — MESP (@mestrate) November 5, 2017

    Just what is going on in Saudi Arabia?
     
  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Doesn't it make you want to gnash your teeth? I try to be fairly sanguine but this outright hypocrisy of these thugs really grinds my gears.
     
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  10. AED

    AED Powers

    I can't bear to hear or read the news any more. Diabolical hatred. In its most vicious form. Martyrs for sure. Vivo Cristo Rey!!
     
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  11. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

  12. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro New Member

    yes, I believe it will be the false Church of the Antichrist in union with the Nations of Europe.
    I believe that the true Catholic Church will be persecuted by this new Roman Empire
     
  13. AED

    AED Powers

  14. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro New Member

    Hello Briank, forgive me, I had not seen your post. I believe that before the last antichrist will come the forerunners, I believe that the last one will be the one that precedes the return of Christ
     
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  15. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    I personally believe it is to take attention away from the Saudi Arabian coup and purge that is happening. All these players have been in league with the Clintons and Obama for the last 20 years.
    Add to that the supposed documents linking Trump staffers to Russia yet again all over the MSM.

    Meanwhile, where exactly are Hillary, Obama, the Podesta brothers, Huma ? Not a peep from any of them for days according to their twitter accounts. This is big. Hopefully, big enough to finally rid ourselves of this evil once and for all.
     
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  16. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    I might add that with President Trump in Asia for 10 days surrounded by three aircraft carriers and a whole lot of USMC escorts he sure picked a convenient time for his trip wouldn't you say? Safe and sound in the arms if the USMC while the opposition implodes, sealed indictments are served and the round up commences. It may be wishful thinking on my part but I don't think so. It's shaping up to be a mighty interesting week in the US and abroad.

    Things just may get a whole lot better in Saudi Arabia as well as abroad finally.
     
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  17. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59fe47b5e4b0d467d4c225ab/amp

    Power Consolidation Or Failed Coup In Saudi Arabia?
    Muqtedar Khan
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    Breaking: The news out of Saudi Arabia is stunning. Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, the famous Saudi billionaire, who owns stakes in twitter, Citibank, Fox News, a critic of Donald Trump but also a proponent of liberalization in Saudi Arabia has been arrested for corruption. The whole system in Saudi Arabia is corrupt, arresting anyone for corruption is meaningless. What it means is that he is being detained not for his economic activities but perhaps for his political activities. Several ministers have been fired and many business and opinion leaders have been detained.

    Heads of news channels also arrested.

    On this same day there is a missile attack on Riyadh and Saad Hariri travels to Saudi Arabia to resign as PM of Lebanon. Coincidence. All of this after Jared Kushner makes a sort of secret, below the radar visit to Saudi Arabia.

    Either Prince Muhammad bin Salman is consolidating power before ascending to the throne by eliminating dissenters, or there has been an attempted coup of sorts.


    This post is hosted on the Huffington Post's Contributor platform. Contributors control their own work and post freely to our site. If you need to flag this entry as abusive, send us an email.
     
  18. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/11/05/saudi-arabia-just-experience-failed-coup-attempt/amp/

    Did Saudi Arabia Just Experience a Failed Coup Attempt
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    FILE- In this Tuesday, Oct. 24, 2017 file photo released by Saudi Press Agency, SPA, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman speaks at the opening ceremony of Future Investment Initiative Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia’s crown prince has promised to return the ultraconservative kingdom to a more “moderate” Islam. (Saudi Press Agency via AP, File)


    Yesterday, the Saudi government announced sweeping arrests of members of the royal family and other officials on charges of corruption.

    Saudi authorities have arrested dozens of high ranking officials including the billionaire prince who owns the Savoy Hotel in London in an anti-corruption crackdown that strengthens Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s grip on power.

    Police arrested 49 people including 11 princes, four ministers and tens of former ministers in raids across Riyadh, the Saudi capital, in the early hours of Sunday morning.

    Royal planes were grounded as authorities swooped in, corralling princes, former officials and media tycoons into five-star hotels across the capital for questioning.

    Also caught up in the purge was Prince Miteb bin Abdullah, the last of the late King Abdullah’s sons to hold a position of real power. Until yesterday, he was head of Saudi Arabia’s National Guard, which accounts for about half of the country’s military. The rest of the military answers directly Mohammad bin Salman.

    Other arrests include Ibrahim al-Assaf, a former finance minister, Adel Fakieh, an economy minister, Prince Turki bin Abdullah, a former governor of Riyadh. Major business figures including Bakr bin Laden, chairman of the big Saudi Binladin construction group, and Alwaleed al-Ibrahim, owner of the MBC television network, were also detained.

    Considering corruption is about as rare in Saudi Arabia as sand fleas and bad water, what they were up to was either heroic in proportions or the arrests were a sham. Saudi Arabia’s monarch is known to be trying to clear the decks for his heir apparent.

    The arrests came a few hours after the king replaced the minister in charge of the Saudi national guard, Prince Mutaib bin Abdullah, who controlled the last of the three Saudi armed forces not yet considered to be under control of the crown prince.

    The king named Crown Prince Mohammed the minister of defense in 2015. Earlier this year, the king removed Prince Mohammed bin Nayef as head of the interior ministry, placing him under house arrest and extending the crown prince’s influence over the interior ministry’s troops, which act as a second armed force.

    Rumors have swirled since then that King Salman and his favorite son would soon move against Prince Mutaib, commander of the third armed force and himself a former contender for the crown.

    Now this:




    Yes, it is that George Galloway.





    As the old Moscow Rules adage goes: “Once is an accident. Twice is a coincidence. Three times is an enemy action.”

    see also:
    What is curious about the Arab media coverage is that the tone of the articles clearly indicate that no one thinks any of this is an accident.

    The helicopter accident, juxtaposed with the corruption arrests, looks like the elimination of rivals. How very odd that the helicopter was loaded with high ranking officials. What very bad luck.

    Assuming that this is not an accident, one has two easy explanations. First, a coup-in-the-making was detected and the king decided to take them out. The removal of the commander of the Saudi National Guard, which is the force that is supposed to defend the royal household, just before the corruption arrests and the fact that the arrested include top people in Saudi media seems related. One could hypothesize that the guys in the helicopter were ringleaders or, if you want to go full Tom Clancy, they were trying to flee and were shotdown.


    A second hypothesis is that the king has received some bad medical news and he was forced to move up the schedule for consolidating the power of his heir apparent.

    It could all be a coincidence but it certainly is a fortuitous one in which all the bad news came to rivals of the Crown Prince.
     
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Archangels

    Thank you and Brian for clarification
     
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  20. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    Thinking about all those Taliban and ISIS paychecks that just stopped being signed since the Crown Prince of SA seized all assets of the ten Princes today warms my little heart. :)

    Don't believe the lies that will come from the MSM. They are going to look to spin this any way they can to look bad for America and the world when its about the best news I have heard since DJT took office.
     
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