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The event of the Warning begins with the letter "A. "

Discussion in 'GARABANDAL LIBRARY' started by local, Oct 7, 2015.

  1. Glenn

    Glenn Powers Staff Member


    God doesn't need Joey or Conchita or anyone else to perform both the Warning & Miracle,just saying. You want everything to fit neatly in your human comprehension "box". "My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor your ways My ways, says the Lord
     
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  2. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    I have read a lot about what the Garabandal seers have stated in interviews and I think that ultimately they are trying to be obedient to the Blessed Mother which is to not give too much information about these future events. I believe at times they probably realized that they said too much in a previous interview and needed to "put the brakes" on giving out more information. Time will tell whether it's authentic, I'm willing to wait.
     
  3. Conchita said the Warning will come with an event whose name begins with an A and which looks like two stars colliding. We are told by Glenn that the Warning and the event are the same thing. Its good to know these details so that we can recognize fulfillment of Prophesy. Fatima had its solar event. I believe Garabandal will be more of a stellar event. Of course the sun is a star.

    Stellar collisions do occur every 10, 000 years or so. Even Galaxies collide and this releases unimaginable energy. Please note - I am NOT saying the event is a stellar or galactic collision but we have been told The Warning will be worse than earthquakes which also release massive amounts of energy.

    When nuclear bombs have been exploded in outer space they have created auroras that were visible across the world. They also created EMP effects in which electrical circuitry was destroyed eg street lights in Hawai. Just so the power released from supernatural collisions can both enlighten and destroy. (I am not predicting nuclear war.)

    The effect of the clash of wills - Our wills and God's will - will be driven home and made clear in The Warning. Such a clash can release the power of hell. Such power is too much for us to contend with under our own strength. This is why the Church has always nurtured a sense of sin, not as a guilt trip but as a beacon of light that shows the way back to God in the path of repentance. "Repent for the kingdom of God is close at hand." It could be as close as 2018 - the next even year. We await what happens with the Pope's return to Moscow as the sign for the start in earnest of The Tribulation.

    In the Warning we will individually and privately encounter a meeting of minds - God's mind and our mind. No one can choose to avoid this experience. No one will be able to say -" but I didn't know" We will know even as we are known to the limits of our capacity at that time.

    In the case of The Warning, which will only come when Tribulation is at its worst and hope is almost gone, it will both enlighten our minds and destroy our misconceptions - the circuitry on which we have come to rely rather than the Power of God. We are told The Warning will be both seen and felt. The shaking and the light are only the start.

    We have been told that the Warning comes directly from God. Man cannot make stars or galaxies collide nor can man produce an event that releases so much energy. God can do infinitely more than this. His light is finer and more focused than any lazer and can separate the marrow from the bone to reveal the truth. God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God.

    I also think of the mysterious light prophesied at Fatima that was wrongly identified as an aurora. It did not display the scientific characterstics of an aurora. It looked like one but was not one. It was from God.

    So I believe God will create an event that will look like two stars colliding and release so much energy as to shake us up worse than any earthquake. This in turn will produce an effect, visible to the whole world at the same time, and which will be seen as a mysterious light that looks like an Aurora.

    Something that looks like two stars colliding , shaking the hell out of earth and making visible the light of heaven. In this light our conscience will be corrected and we shall suffer greatly. For many the pain will be almost unbearable. As Glenn says so well, it will be brutal. But with faith and the preparations as suggested in the messages of Garabandal we will survive and progress to a far far better way. The Warning will be seen as an act of great mercy.

    Holy fear open us up to the action of God. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. And in our education of sin through a grace, a sign or a punishment, in other words a Warning, we will each be offered Wisdom. As ever, what we do with our heavenly education is up to us. On that depends the conditional Chastisement.

    All the above is simply my thought on the matter.

    But to keep it really simple, as Glenn says, there are only two aspects of The Warning
    1. something that looks like two stars colliding.
    2. A revelation of our sins.
     
  4. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    This informations were told by Conchita? If the Warning would be caused by supernatural light, it would be without earthquakes.
    It seems to be real a collision of some planet with the sun. Such collision would cause the flash and earthquakes.
    Remember that Conchita's words "like dogma" could mean the real dogma of Co-redemptrix, and her words "like collision" could mean the real collision.

    I only add, that if Mary told the events to Conchita in mystical form, the events leading to the Warning could be misinterpreted. I consider the meeting of pope with Moscow Patriarch as "the trip of pope into the Moscow"
     
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  5. Conchita said it would be seen and felt. She said it would be worse than earthquakes. 'Like' can mean many things e.g. 'the same as' , 'similar to' or 'by way of example'. Glenn is better able to answer your question. Where are you from LV? Is that writing your own language? I am going to take a break from here for a while. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all even though the signs are that it won't be. Christmas may be fine. After Jan 20, who knows. Most folk I know think that poor old Donald aint gonna last. I hope he will be ok. We have enough death and violence but "we aint seen nuthin yet " as the song goes.
     
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  6. Yes the Pope will go in person to Moscow.
     
  7. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    You see, that I speak in other word order as english language has, because my thinking is slavic and I do no accept germanic thinking but only translate my thinking in english...
    Thank you for definition of "Like" what can mean many things e.g. 'the same as' , 'similar to' or 'by way of example'. In my language "like" means "similar to", "as" means "the same as" and "than" means "by way of example" If you say like-collision I understand event similar to collision. If you would say as collision, I would understand, that this event will be certainly the collision. If spanish language has similar thinking to germanic thinking, the event could be similar to collision of stars. But if the thinking of spanish people is more similar to eastern europeans, the event will be the real collision of the stars.
     
  8. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    This is literal explanation and maybe is true. But the spirit of this sentence from mystical view is the effort to unite Church and the ecumenism. The meeting with Moscow Patriarch had the same spirit - the ecumenism. If Conchita did not understand the mystical words of Mary, she could these words misinterprete. If the Warning will come in this month, I am true, but if not, you are true with you literal explanation.

    Until the day of the death of Joey, I believed that the Garabandal must be understood literally too. After this event I understood, that Virgin Mary told to Conchita by mystical way, and that the word "comunism" is image for atheism, the word "tribulation" is image for corruption of the Church, "pope in Moscow" is the image for false ecumenism etc.
     
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  9. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Joey does have new eyes! I don't believe it was said that he would be on earth when that would happen.
     
  10. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Still Thomas' in the Church.
     
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  11. CrewDog

    CrewDog Powers

    Time to take a break from Doom-n-Gloom .. Damnit!!

    The U.S. Air Force comes thru again for 2016 :LOL:
    (I am a bit surprised that "somebody" has not told them to "ditch" the traditional Christmas Carols.)

    "The USAF Band - 2016 Holiday Flash Mob"


    Merry CHRISTmas!!

    GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
    141001xmas.jpg
     
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  12. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    The rationalism is the poison for the belief. Thomas had to see with material eyes. But the eyes of his soul were blind.
    If Virgin Mary said, that Joey will have new eyes, he have them now. If according to Rev 13 a soul can have forehad and hands, it can have also eyes.
     
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  13. Byron

    Byron Angels

    LV I don't consider the pope in Moscow to be the image for false ecumenism. But I do believe our interpretation of the Pope visiting Moscow may be wrong. The fact that both the Pope and Oglicharch visited Cuba a communist nation may have been what Heaven meant.
     
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  14. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    There is quite a list of supplications to be made for the state of the priesthood given to us by Fatima via Peter B in the translations of the "Approved Apparitions in the Amazon":

    #s 618 and 619 here:

    http://motheofgod.com/threads/approved-apparitions-in-the-amazon.3885/page-31#post-156292

    examples:

    Pray for disobedient Bishops and rebellious priests who do not love the Holy Church and who do not live their faith, because they no longer believe in the presence of my Son Jesus in the Eucharist and have let themselves be blinded by the devil, scorning the Mystery of the priesthood, so sublime, to ruin their Souls with lust, with money and with power, vain illusions that have separated them from the Divine Heart of my Son Jesus. Pray for Ministers of God who with their unruly lives lead many souls to the path of hell because of such scandals and vile conduct. My Immaculate Heart suffers because there is no longer purity in many Bishops and priests, but only corruption, sins and immorality that wound and offend the Heart of my Divine Son.

    .....
    Pray for religious and consecrated who live like true pagans. They were chosen to console the Heart of my Son Jesus, but they have become instruments of satan for destroying the sacred places where they live. They are true serpents within the garden whom the Lord chose and prepared with so much love so that they might intercede for the Holy Church, for the conversion of the world and the salvation of souls. Many have become cold, selfish, and have allowed themselves to be defiled by the venom of satan with pride, disobedience, and impurity. Their prayers do not reach the Throne of God, because they no longer have the light of grace that pleases his holy eyes, but are ruined by the darkness that envelops and destroys their souls, making them true servants of satan, living only for sin.

    but these include just about every human situation of today's world as well.
     
  15. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Still very sad, if there is reason to make statements like that it is even more sad. I don't agree with LV about PF abdicating, based on the WCWTS sign I was taking a guess.
     
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  16. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Everyone understood the Joey prophecy to mean new eyes on earth. Before Joey died, no one connected with Garabandal ever suggested it meant "spiritual eyes." It was only after Joey died that the "spiritual eyes" argument was introduced. The only way I could see the prophecy being fulfilled would be if Joey is resurrected on the day of the Miracle. But that was never prophesied. The original prophecy was that Joey would receive new eyes, not that he would be resurrected and receive new eyes. Somehow I don't see Our Lady getting important details wrong. But maybe I'm wrong. The Church has adopted a wait and see attitude with Garabandal so I'll wait and see. One thing I have always admired about Garabandal was the lives of the seers. Their lives of humility stand in sharp contrast to the the Medjugorje seers.
     
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  17. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    It seems that when people attempt to try and make plausible for themselves the interventions of God in our human and sinful world of today and in the past, something often left out is that God has His own timetable and that always involves the actions taken or not taken by His Church in response to such mercy filled actions promised. Those promises are conditional. When He sends His own mother to intervene by His permission and His instructions she always respects those in authority even though disappointed with their delays or even interferences which serve, not the intentions of the Father, but those of Satan. One has to admit that the Church these days is extremely predictable for taking the side of interference with or just ignoring such great help from heaven or just sitting things aside and hoping they will disappear on a shelf somewhere. So when things get interfered with or get ignored by disobedience or determination to even kill anything and everything that has to do with apparitions or messages given to the simple then don't expect to still receive the original promises in full....unless God extends His original time limits due to some greater efforts made by the faithful themselves. Even at Fatima certain of the apparitions promised on certain specified dates also did not happen due to the interference by those in the regional authority. The faithful arrived in great expectation of what was promised only to have nothing happen and to return home disappointed and perhaps even with loss of faith in the apparitions themselves. Upon whose shoulders that rest for all eternity? That is how much God makes Himself dependent upon human free will and His Church's expected cooperation. This was a condition offered to me to consider from someone gifted with discernment of such things and who is a go to person for some well known individuals connected with some major devotions of our time. Often God gives us a time designed by Him for great graces to occur. But "we" give Him lack of cooperation for all of those things to happen within His willed time limitation. IOW since we're here to serve Him and not the other way around we shouldn't expect to have our cake and eat it too!!
     
  18. LittleVoice

    LittleVoice WOE WOE WOE

    If is such effort of ecumenism followed by the tribulation, I considered it to be against God's Will.
     
  19. Elisa

    Elisa Archangels

    If God wants everyone on earth to see an Asteroide at the same time, He will. The Almighthy can do Everything. ;)
     
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  20. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    Yes, everyone did assume Joey would get new eyes while he was alive. But the fact that people choose to interpret prophecy always in a literal way is their problem. Fulfillment of prophecy almost always surprises, yet this doesn't stop people trying to work out precisely what is going to happen with regard to Garabandal, Medjugorje, Akita. Even the fulfillment of the Fatima prophecies gets people misunderstanding things. Our Lady doesn't "get important details wrong". But we sinful people do get things wrong all the time!
    By the way, the lives of the Medjugorje seers are admirable.
     
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