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The Era of Peace & Living in the Divine Will

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Fatima, Nov 7, 2017.

  1. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Verne, has moved from Minnesota to Arizona with his family and working there. I don't know that he has a spiritual director in his new area. While he continues to share with me recent messages, he does not put them to print. It was only at the request of his good friend Cletus that the ones in the book GSWYL got put into a book and the last public messages shared online were in 2010 that can be seen online at www.godspeakswillyoulisten.org

    While most will pay little attention to private messages, I believe, like Jonha, Verne was not wanting to go public with the pending purification with God's messages and was admonished by God in his book for not doing so. He is not a public figure, but not unlike Jennifer and her book www.wordsfromjesus.com he lives a 'hidden' public life.

    Keep him in prayer as Satan still wages war on him and his family at times.
     
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  2. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Thanks for info.
     
  3. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Verne: "The prophet Daniel has many prophecies which correspond with the book of the Apocalypse. Daniel 12:9 states: And he said: Go, Daniel, because the words are shut up and sealed until the appointed time. My Holy Spirit will unseal the prophecies and give an understanding at the appointed time." "My Holy Spirit is opening the book of Daniel and the Apocalypse through my blessed Mother’s teachings, my Holy Church’s teachings and the messages from my messengers of today."

    Fr. Gobbi: "'One day, you will see in the holy place he who commits the horrible sacrilege. The prophet Daniel spoke of this. Let the reader seek to understand. Beloved children, in order to understand in what this horrible sacrilege consists, read what has been predicted by the prophet Daniel, 'Go, Daniel; these words are to remain secret and sealed until the end time. Many will be cleansed, made white and upright, but the wicked will persist in doing wrong. Not one of the wicked will understand these things, but the wise will comprehend." MMP 4#85
     
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  4. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Verne: "Satan is going to persecute my church, since he has been cast out of my church. He is going to use lukewarm Catholics, apostate Protestants, and the antichrist to persecute my faithful Catholics." "Then, my people you will see the fulfillment of Daniel 12:11: And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days and Apocalypse 12:6: And the woman (or my church) fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that they should feed her, a thousand two hundred sixty days."

    Fr. Gobbi: The Sacrifice of the Mass renews that which was accomplished by Jesus on Calvary. By accepting the Protestant doctrine, people will hold that the Mass is not a sacrifice, but only a sacred meal, that is to say, a remembrance of that which Jesus did at His Last Supper. And thus, the celebration of Holy Mass will be suppressed. In this abolition of the daily Sacrifice consists the horrible sacrilege accomplished by the Antichrist, which will last about three and a half years, namely, one thousand two hundred and ninety days. MMP #485
     
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  5. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    "...the times which were foretold to you by the prophet Zechariah have now come." (Zec. 13:7-9) MMP #482
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    "...the moment of the full manifestation of the antichrist is drawing ever nearer." MMP #485, Dec. 31, 1992

    "The fourth sign is the horrible sacrilege, perpetrated by him who sets himself against Christ, that is, the antichrist. He will enter into the holy temple of God and will sit on his throne and have himself adored as God." MMP #485

    From Josyp Terelya on antichrist:


    ...the antichrist is already visibly present. (July, 1992)

    "...the antichrist is already working as a false prophet. He presents his false teachings based on sacred scripture, setting himself forth as the Messiah the promised of the Lord."

    "...All evil people are prefigures of the antichrist. To mark the coming of the antichrist, we should pay heed to the rebellion against Rome (the Church) that has begun to manifest itself on earth in this last decade."


    "Pray, and in your prayers, ask for the conversion of Russia. Without this conversion, the world will perish in the evil of the antichrist." (1992)

    From Our Lady to Fr. Gobbi: "I assure you that what I already foretold you at Fatima has truly come to pass: Russia has spread its errors throughout the whole world.

    MMP #407, June, 1989 - "You have thus arrived at the peak of the purification, of the great tribulation and of the apostasy. The apostasy will be, as of then, generalized because almost all will follow the false christ and the false church. Then the door will be open for the appearance of the man or of the very person of the antichrist!"




     
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  6. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I mentioned that Verne was reluctant to publish or relay God's messages and and this admonishment was given to him:

    9/21/07 AM
    My son, write these words as I instruct you. You have been granted my mercy and pardon for your transgressions and sins. To not write my words, is an act of disobedience to my will. When you consecrate yourself to my sacred heart, you are allowing me to use you asan instrument of my mercy. If you refuse to obey me, you will be chastised like the prophet Jonah. Follow my will as I lead and guide you.

    And then this message came later the same day"

    9/21/07 PM
    My people, Wake up! Why are you so blind? The warnings and signs are all around you.You have been deceived by the prince of darkness. I am repeating myself so no person can say to me, I did not know. The trumpets are sounding. Many of you scoff at messages such as these. But so did the people of Noah’s day, Sodom and Gomorrah, and the children of Israel. But my words will not return to me void. Disregard my holy word, my holy Catholic church, and my many messages at your own eternal peril. For the events are no longer at the door. The door is now opening. Many changes have happened this year with more to come. Many scoff and proclaim, “These events are many years in the future.” But I the Lord proclaim and prophesy to you: the events are not 10 years or even 5 years in the future. The events are happening before your blind and deceived eyes. I prophesy to you again: many more changes will have taken place by this time next year. Many souls have been called to their judgment in this current year. Many more will be called in a short period of time. Are you ready to meet your God? Is your soul right with your creator? Mankind refuses to repent and accept my mercy in the midst of these events. Mankind is deceived by a false science which blinds you in your pride. This false god will topple over by the spirit of my purification. If my people would repent, many events could be mitigated. But similar to the people of Noah’s day, mankind is seduced by the lure and attraction of evil. For I prophesy to you again: the middle ground will no longer exist. The evil will become more evil and the holy will become more conformed to my will and my suffering. The cross shattered the bondage of sin and death. The cross will once again free my people from the bondage of this sinful age. How I weep for the blindness of my people. How my Blessed Mother weeps for the loss of so many souls. Do you, my people, even care about the eternal destination of the lost sinner?

    My eternal Father has already determined the dates and the times for each of the chastisements to come to wake up this world. Do not put your trust in mankind. Trust only and focus completely on Jesus Christ. Focusing on anyone or anything else will cause you to be enslaved to sin, death, and even eternal damnation. My people, today, it is unpopular to speak my eternal truths. My people perish for lack of knowledge.

    My Father will cleanse this present earth of sin and the dominion of the father of lies. You can choose to not believe any of these words you are reading. Again, disregard these warnings and you may perish forever in hell. My Father will send the fire of purification by the power of the Holy Spirit to renew his creation. All not of me will be swept away by the fire of purification. My faithful, be not afraid. If you are in sanctifying grace, rejoice for the dawn of a new era rapidly approaches. The era where all of creation will do my Father’s will on earth as it is in heaven. This is the message of hope to my faithful. To the ungodly and lukewarm: the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. When you say, peace and safety, then sudden destruction will come upon you.

    There are many forces of evil in your world trying to lead you to eternal destruction. Reject the world and its false promises and lies. You cannot be a friend of the world and a friend of God at the same time. Fence sitting is no longer an option. The sequence of events will cause fear in the ungodly and lukewarm, but peace and joy in my faithful. For my faithful, will see my hand in the events that will take place. The famine, pestilence,war, and financial collapse will allow the man of sin to seduce and control the majority of mankind. It is the lack of repentance and rejection of my mercy that causes the events to unfold. My faithful, do not be deceived. These are many false messengers proclaiming all of my people will be taken to refuges. For I prophesy to you, many of my faithful will be tortured, imprisoned, and martyred for their faith. Many more of my faithful will deny me to save their lives. This will cause you to take the mark of the beast and enter eternal torment. There will be a portion of my faithful, who will be led to my refuges by their guardian angels. You have no guarantee you will be among those called to my refuges.Prepare yourself for hardship, suffering, and the way of the cross. Offer yourself a living sacrifice to my Father. Live in my joy and peace. The tribulation will come and continue as my holy Word proclaims. Any messages or messengers, who disagrees with my church and my Holy Word, cast out and do not listen to them. The day of the Son of Man is on the horizon. Prepare yourself today to meet your maker. Let me say to you, Enter thou into the joy of thy Lord. Do not let me say to you, I never knew you. Depart from me, you workers of iniquity. Enter into everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Take heed to my words. The hour is late and the time I short. These are the words from Jesus your savior, redeemer, and friend. If I did not love you, I would not repeat my warnings to you. AMEN and AMEN.
     
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  7. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    The messages are consistent, contrary to neither scripture or church teachings. Most will be surprised to see the Antichrist on the scene in the very near future now and bringing about the abomination of desolation or the protestant version of the mass, where it is absent the sacrifice.
     
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  8. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I will be very surprised as I don't believe this is the period of the Antichrist.

    For me we are entering the period of the minor chastisement that is followed by a period of peace which is the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

    In the future there will be the major chastisement near the end of the world that includes the period of the Antichrist and after comes the end of the world.

    Both periods mirror each other to a degree therefore the minor chastisement we are living through is a fore-runner to the major chastisement that our descendants will endure at the end of the world.
     
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  9. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Do you have any prophecy that leads you to believe this? Please post for us if you do, as it would help in the discussion. I don't want just someones opinion that wrote a book on prophecy and the end times, I am interested in seeing what prophets/messengers have said in this regard, say in the last 50 years. From my study in this area, it seems apparent to me that all the messages coming out in these times indicate explicitly that the Antichrist is alive today and not 1000's of years away.
     
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  10. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua


    For your discernment: Several years ago, Jesus told me, "The antichrist is at the door." I doubted this because so many of the messages give to others have stated that the antichrist will come "at the end of time". Then in May, 2000, after returning from Mass, I had received a booklet from an interview with Fr. Gobbi (the interview was from Aug. 5, 1999) regarding "the person" of the antichrist:


    "And lastly, the greatest attack takes place in this century - in 1998, meaning an historical period - which has reached the point of denying God. The first attack is against Christ; the second, against the Church; this one against God, through the error of theoretical and practical atheism which has spread throughout humanity. At the end of this one, there will be also the manifestation of the antichrist as a person. However as a person, he will not come suddenly, but rather his coming will be the fruit made ripe by all this historical context which has prepared it."


    God alone knows the exact time for the coming of antichrist, but He is warning us so as to be prepared. It will be a chastisement for all of humanity - we must pray much, many Rosaries so that Our Blessed Mother may intervene for us. Be sure that you and your family members are Consecrated to the Immaculate Heart so as to enter into the Ark as Noah and his family did. She will protect us! Lynne
     
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  11. Heidi

    Heidi Archangels

    I agree, Fatima. I believe that the Antichrist is coming soon, before the era of peace.
     
  12. There was a very good and pious religious order in Brazil, whose founder was considered a prophet, and they were sure that they would live the great tribulation and they would restore Catholicism, being the founder the great Catholic monarch.

    At one point they realized they were a little old and probably this dream would not come true. “Cleverly” they made a plan to get the tribulation to come soon. They began to help the communists in the church and entered freemasonry too, aiming to destroy the Catholic church as quickly as possible and thereby bring the wrath of God upon mankind. Some of them died rebellious with God because they did not live the tribulation.

    To be waiting for the tribulation or the era of peace can be a fetish. We know nothing about time, and God's time often takes much longer than we think.

    In my opinion, the time given by God after the Warning, in order that mankind would convert, will be much more longer than our human reason think.
     
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  13. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

  14. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    It is clear that the Church Father's taught that the anti-Christ comes at the end of the world.

    We are not at the end of the world yet. We are at the end of an era.

    Fatima & other prophecies speak of the triumph of Mary & and era of peace before the anti-Christ comes:
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    The Great Monarch/Great Pope/period of peace precede anti-Christ according to these
    prophecies from D'Otrante & Holzhauser:
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    Jesus Christ will return to Earth at the end of the three and one-half year reign of the Antichrist,
    destroying Satan's kingdom. The resurrection of the just will occur at that time.

    *References - IRENAEUS:Against Heresies (V, 19-30); HIPPOLYTUS: Treatise on Christ and Antichrist
     
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  15. Heidi

    Heidi Archangels

    Everything I have read of the early Church Fathers puts the Antichrist before that.
     
  16. garabandal

    garabandal Powers


    Justin Martyr (AD 100-168) "O unreasoning men! understanding not what has been proved by all these passages, that two advents of Christ have been announced: the one, in which He is set forth as suffering, inglorious, dishonoured, and crucified; but the other, in which He (Christ) shall come from heaven with glory, when the man of apostasy, who speaks strange things against the Most High, shall venture to do unlawful deeds on the earth against us the Christians, who, having learned the true worship of God from the law, and the word which went forth from Jerusalem by means of the apostles of Jesus, have fled for safety to the God of Jacob and God of Israel;" (First Apology of Justin, Chapter 110)

    Irenaeus (AD 140-202)
    But when this Anti-christ shall have devastated all things in this world he will reign for three years and six months and sit in the temple at Jerusalem and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds in the glory of the Father sending this man and those who follow him into the Lake of Fire.(Against Heresies V, XXVI, 1)

    Cyprian (AD 200-258) "For you ought to know and to believe, and hold it for certain, that the day of affliction has begun to hang over our heads, and the end of the world and the time of Antichrist to draw near, so that we must all stand prepared for the battle ... "The time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service…" Nor let any one wonder that we are harassed with increasing afflictions, when the Lord before predicted that these things would happen in the last times," (Epistles of Cyprian, LV, 1,2)

    Nor let any one of you, beloved brethren, be so terrified by the fear of future persecution, or the coming of the threatening Antichrist, as not to be found armed for all things by the evangelical exhortations and precepts, and by the heavenly warnings. Antichrist is coming but immediately the Lord follows to avenge our sufferings and our wounds. (Epistles of Cyprian, LIII, p.722)

    Saint Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons, and Father of the Church, wrote about Saint Paul’s teachings on the Antichrist, as found in Paul’s Epistles in the Bible:

    And again, in the Second to the Thessalonians, speaking of Antichrist, he says, “And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus Christ shall slay with the Spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy him with the presence of his coming; [even him] whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all power, and signs, and lying wonders.”
    (Saint Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book III, Chapter VII)

    Holy Scriptures tell us that the anti-Christ (the iniquitous one) will be destroyed on the second coming of Christ:
    [2 Thessalonians]
    {2:8} And then that iniquitous one shall be revealed, the one whom the Lord Jesus shall bring to ruin with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy at the brightness of his return:
     
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  17. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I would be interested in you providing quotes from the Church Fathers that shows that the anti-Christ does not come at the end of the world.
     
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  18. ComeSoon!

    ComeSoon! New Member

    This is the article that Lynnfiat included within the web link. There is much I do not know about Bishop Fulton Sheen. So this strikes me very interesting and timely.

    Mgr. Fulton J. Sheen
    Communism and the Conscience of the West (1948)

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    “[Satan] will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the [Catholic] Church. . . . It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content.”
    The Antichrist will not be so called; otherwise he would have no followers. He will not wear red tights, nor vomit sulphur, nor carry a trident nor wave an arrowed tail as Mephistopheles in Faust. This masquerade has helped the Devil convince men that he does not exist. When no man recognizes, the more power he exercises. God has defined Himself as “I am Who am,” and the Devil as “I am who am not.”

    Nowhere in Sacred Scripture do we find warrant for the popular myth of the Devil as a buffoon who is dressed like the first “red.” Rather is he described as an angel fallen from heaven, as “the Prince of this world,” whose business it is to tell us that there is no other world. His logic is simple: if there is no heaven there is no hell; if there is no hell, then there is no sin; if there is no sin, then there is no judge, and if there is no judgment then evil is good and good is evil. But above all these descriptions, Our Lord tells us that he will be so much like Himself that he would deceive even the elect — and certainly no devil ever seen in picture books could deceive even the elect. How will he come in this new age to win followers to his religion?

    The pre-Communist Russian belief is that he will come disguised as the Great Humanitarian; he will talk peace, prosperity and plenty not as means to lead us to God, but as ends in themselves. . . .

    . . . The third temptation in which Satan asked Christ to adore him and all the kingdoms of the world would be His, will become the temptation to have a new religion without a Cross, a liturgy without a world to come, a religion to destroy a religion, or a politics which is a religion — one that renders unto Caesar even the things that are God’s.

    In the midst of all his seeming love for humanity and his glib talk of freedom and equality, he will have one great secret which he will tell to no one: he will not believe in God. Because his religion will be brotherhood without the fatherhood of God, he will deceive even the elect. He will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the Church, because he, the Devil, is the ape of God. It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content. It will be a mystical body of the Antichrist that will in all externals resemble the mystical body of Christ. . . .

    . . . But the twentieth century will join the counterchurch because it claims to be infallible when its visible head speaks ex cathedra from Moscow on the subject of economics and politics, and as chief shepherd of world communism.

    Source: Fulton J. Sheen, Communism and the Conscience of the West (Bobbs-Merril Company, Indianapolis, 1948), pp. 22-25.
     
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  19. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Saint Caesar of Arles (c470-542AD) divided the end times into two parts:
    “At the same time there will be a great Pope, who will be most eminent in sanctity and most perfect in every quality. This Pope shall have with him, the Great Monarch, a most virtuous man, who shall be a scion of the holy race of the French kings. This Great Monarch will assist the Pope in the reformation of the whole earth. Many princes and nations that are living in error and impiety shall be converted, and an admirable peace shall reign among men during many years, because the wrath of God shall be appeased through their repentance, penance, and good works. There will be one common law, one only faith, one baptism, one religion. All nations shall recognize the Holy See of Rome, and shall pay homage to the Pope. But after some considerable time fervor shall cool, iniquity shall abound, and moral corruption shall become worse than ever, which shall bring upon mankind the last and worse persecution of Anti-Christ, and the end of the world.”
     
  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Few have written on the period of the Antichrist, the era of peace and the end of the world more than Mark Mallett in his various blogs. The following is just a sample of using the writings of the Church Father's, scripture and the Catholic Catechism to educate those who think the Antichrist and Era of Peace are long off. I could post blog after blog of his that gives sufficient insight from these three resources, along with endless messages from God's prophet's in the past 50 years if I thought it would do any good. But here is just a sample....................

    The Coming Resurrection
    Posted on May 9, 2016 by Mark

    THE
    purification of the world from evil will also, according to the Early Church Fathers, usher in an Era of Peace when Satan will be chained for a “thousand years.” This will coincide also with a Resurrection of the saints and martyrs, according to the Apostle John:

    They came to life and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were over. This is the first resurrection. (Rev 20:4-5)

    Citing the written and oral tradition of the Church, St. Justin Martyr wrote:


    I and every other orthodox Christian feel certain that there will be a resurrection of the flesh followed by a thousand years in a rebuilt, embellished, and enlarged city of Jerusalem, as was announced by the Prophets Ezekiel, Isaias and others… A man among us named John, one of Christ’s Apostles, received and foretold that the followers of Christ would dwell in Jerusalem for a thousand years, and that afterwards the universal and, in short, everlasting resurrection and judgment would take place. —St. Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho, Ch. 81, The Fathers of the Church, Christian Heritage


    What exactly is this “resurrection of the flesh” that occurs before the “everlasting resurrection”?

    THE PASSION OF THE CHURCH

    One of the central tenets of this writing apostolate is that the Body of Christ appears to be entering into its own Passion, following in the footsteps of its Head, Jesus Christ. If that be the case, then the Body of Christ will likewise participate in the Resurrection.

    Before Christ’s second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers… The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection. Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 672, 677

    There may come a time when the visible head of the Church, the Holy Father, will be “struck” and the sheep will be scattered (see The Great Scattering). This will precipitate a more formal persecution of the Church as she will be systematically stripped, scourged, and mocked before the world. This will culminate in her crucifixion, when some souls will be martyred for the sake of the Gospel, while others will remain hidden until after the merciful purification of the world from evil and godlessness. Both the remnant and the martyrs will be hidden in the safe refuge of the Immaculate Heart of Mary—that is, their salvation will be safeguarded within the Ark, covered as it were, by the Mercy Seat, the Sacred Heart of Jesus.

    THE FIRST RESURRECTION

    Those who have died in Christ during this time of tribulation will experience what John calls the “first resurrection.” Those who,

    …had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image nor had accepted its mark on their foreheads or hands. They came to life and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were over. This is the first resurrection. (Rev 20:4)

    This is indeed a tremendous hope (and remarkable that we are suddenly living in a time when Christians are being beheaded again)! Though we cannot know for certain the exact nature of this resurrection, Christ’s own Resurrection may give us some insight:

    This authentic, real body [of the risen Jesus] possesses the new properties of a glorious body: not limited by space and time but able to be present how and when he wills; for Christ’s humanity can no longer be confined to earth and belongs henceforth only to the Father’s divine realm. —Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 645

    It is possible that the resurrected martyrs will participate in the reigning temporal Kingdom of the surviving remnant Church inasmuch as the risen saints will not be “confined to earth” nor necessarily be ever-present, as Christ only appeared at times during the 40 days before His Ascension.

    Christ’s Resurrection was not a return to earthly life, as was the case with the raisings from the dead that he had performed before Easter: Jairus’ daughter, the young man of Naim, Lazarus. These actions were miraculous events, but the persons miraculously raised returned by Jesus’ power to ordinary earthly life. At some particular moment they would die again. Catechism of the Catholic Church, n. 645

    Since the risen saints will have experienced the “first” resurrection, they may be in a state such as the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is able to appear on earth, while also enjoying the beatific vision of Heaven. The purpose of this grace to be bestowed upon the martyrs would be two-fold: to honor them as “priests of God and of Christ” (Rev 20:6), and to help prepare the remnant Church of the new Era, who are confined still to time and space, for the Final return of Jesus in glory:

    For this reason too the risen Jesus enjoys the sovereign freedom of appearing as he wishes: in the guise of a gardener or in other forms familiar to his disciples, precisely to awaken their faith. —CCC, n. 645
     

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