There is an old saying that, 'The Hand that hurts if the Hand that heals'. I think this is from the profession of surgeons who have to cut and cut deep in order to bring about healing. This would have been even more so in the days before anaethetics. The Lord God is the Divine Surgeon and administers his medicine as and when folks need need it. We all need good swift kicks up the ass at some stage in our lives, let's face it and God is not slow to give us one as I am sure everyone who reads this will attest too. For some folks , though kicks up the ass, with whatever Divine Force they are given just won;t do the buisness. Some people have to be dragged outside by the Holy Spirit and the Ministering Angels and beaten half senseless and left bleeding by the road side before they get even a glimmer of a little sense. Even then it may be that many more good beating are in order to effect a change for the better. If you read the life of the Blessed Bartolo Longo..ex Satanist , you see one such soul: http://motheofgod.com/threads/blessed-bartolo-longo.10073/#post-159358 St Paul of Tarsus was another. Note that when Jesus met up with Paul on the Road to Damscus , Jesus said to Paul, 'It is hard for you to kick against the goad'. Now a goad was a stick you beat the animal with. So what Jesus was saying is , 'I have kicked your ass for you and its done some good. Now I am really going to kick your ass for you and it's going to do you a whole lot of good'. So poor old Paul was left in a heap on the ground and blinded for good measure. A real beating. I remember when I was at school I was a big trouble maker and nearly got expelled more than once. But I remember what the head master, a De La Salle Brother said to me on the last day. He said to me, 'Padraig in my experience at this job it is only the ones who cause us trouble that ever amount to very much'.