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Pope Francis Apostolic Exhortation

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by Advocate, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. Advocate

    Advocate New Member

  2. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    Maybe he's doing that because he knows he hasn't much time left... (the road will be short for the king - Pedro Regis, and his own declarations on the 2nd anniversary of his pontificate).
  3. Vivi

    Vivi Vivi

    Lets continue to prayIndeed difficult times ahead
  4. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Daily News
    The Pope’s Family Apostolic Exhortation ‘Amoris Laetitia’: What’s In Play (5013)
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    Pope Francis celebrates Mass at the close of the Synod on the Family in St. Peter’s Basilica on Oct. 25, 2015.

    – © L'Osservatore Romano

    VATICAN CITY — What should the faithful be aware of when the Vatican publishes Pope Francis’ highly anticipated summary document on the synods on the family on Friday?

  5. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    According to one comment beneath the NC Register report, the New York Times already has a copy of the Exhortation. I suppose we may look to the devout Catholic staff of the NYT to explain what it means. Could "Collegiality" become the inclusive term for Protestantism? We'll find out tomorrow. Come Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of the faithful.
  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I am sure the following buzz words will be in the exhortation - they are the favourite phrases of the modernists:




    families in different forms

    real families




    pastoral realism

    doctrine at the service of pastoral mission

    Doctrinal unity in pastoral plurality

    I doubt very much if the following will get a mention





    nuclear family





    What we will get will be a form of modernism dressed up in fancy words that can be interpreted in a number of different ways.

    What we will not get is clarity.
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2016
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  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Begs the question:

    Has the Catholic Church just become another 'social club' obsessed by membership numbers so that anyone can join and therefore has no real bearing or influence in the world and has become like an irrelevant NGO with no real power to transform culture or society. Anyone can join even though they don't agree with the membership rules.

    What the Catholic Church should be doing (as commissioned by Christ) is calling people to become disciples and apostles with hearts set on fire for love of God to transform the pagan landscape that we see all around us.

    This afternoon we will see in the exhortation what the Catholic Church has become.
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2016
  8. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    I doubt a lot of those words will get mentioned also.
    The thing is that the church needs to be updated . It needs to deal with the problems of today ,
    It needs to ...

    I think St Anthony of the desert already covered this.

    Anyway , the main thing this month is that we focus on and pray for small farmers.
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  9. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    It's rather disappointing to read the negativity above. I am filled with trust and hope that the Holy Father's exhortation will provide help for many who are wanting to come closer to God.

    The announcement in the Vatican will presumably be led by Cardinal Mueller (hopefully in English!) and will be broadcast in about 3 hours time, live, at:

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  10. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Thanks for the link David.
  11. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Butterflies in the stomache. A real dread.
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  12. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    Sky News are reporting that the document affirms the Church's position on same sex unions. At the same time, it says that matters relating to sex are down to an individual's conscience (I suppose that's the internal forum).
  13. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    While waiting for some English to be spoken at the Vatican press conference, I found a site which contained a link to the English translation of the exhortation. Here is the link:

    I have spent half an hour or so reading sections of it and I find it exquisitely beautiful. It faces up to every difficulty but the beauty of Pope Francis and his spirituality shines through. Yet I am dreading seeing the attacks that the document will inevitably receive.
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  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

  15. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    For me, it is about being compassionate for those who have been swallowed up in the sickness of this world. Don't judge the person, but reach out in the truth of the Gospel when those around us need love and truth. One can continue to express the Word of God to our neighbors without the tone of judgement. Time is short as we know it. I assume people in all walks of life are going to continue doing whatever they were before the exhortation of Pope Francis came out. They will continue to believe whatever they believed before his document. What perhaps should change is our response to our friends and neighbor's with a little more humility, less judgement, more compassion and a willingness to love the person, teach the person of God's love and if one has enough contact with those people who are in a situation contrary to God's love and truth, to be there for them and help them see over time where God's unchanging truth and love leads them. Perhaps a discussion breaks out at work. What is our response? To get in everyone's face and be so black and white that we stifle conversation? I think not. I hope that if I get nothing more out of the two year synod and all the bickering and posturing that took place there, that I have learned to keep calm, God's in charge, pray like never before for those who have fallen away from God's grace and don't be in-the-face judgemental towards anyone. We know what God's unchanging teachings are. The hard part is to be Christ to all.
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  16. padraig

    padraig New Member

  17. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

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  19. andree

    andree Archangels

    Thanks for the link David, I am loving what I am reading. Like you I am also dreading the negativity.

    I agree. I'm wondering if we could start a separate thread with this intent. Perhaps Glenn could do it since he's a moderator who has another positive thread going on the pope and he is good at keeping people focused on the subject.
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  20. little me

    little me Archangels

    paragraphs 186, 79, 302, 303 and 311.....pay close attention to these.

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