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North Korea and Iran Threat Updates

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Carol55, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro New Member

  2. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Ollie North thinks that's not a bad move since it would get Congress involved where they could name the ongoing bad actions of Iran which include at least 3 Americans being held for "spying" and develop sanctions accordingly. But if things continue as usual with Congress such involvement with any seriousness would just again get talked again during another "process" rather than getting results. Hopefully Trump would just end it and then make Congress deal with the Iran problem from there. Unbelievable how this fraud Obama deal was done on the 9/11 anniversary in 2015. Nothing like handing over billions to a mortal enemy who openly declared they would use such funding to develop nukes in order to aim them directly at the "little" and "big" Satans! Maybe it will take some kind of direct "surprise" on Congressional buildings themselves to wake them up to the danger to their own nation.
     
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  3. ComeSoon!

    ComeSoon! New Member

    There are references to the Middle East on the website www.afterthewarning.com.
     
  4. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Luan, Thank you for the post!

    earthtoangels, Obama's motives were/are very questionable.

    ComeSoon, Thank you for the post also. Would you be able to state which seers you are speaking of? Thank you again. Prophecies pertaining to the Middle East, of course, are contained in scripture but it is interesting to study more recent ones also. A few people on MOG including myself have been very interested in what the 15-yr old Israeli boy Natan had to say. He had a NDE 2 years ago in which he was given a vision of a war in the Middle East.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-in-major-u-s-policy-shift-idUSKBN1CI24I?il=0
    October 13, 2017 / 11:34 AM / Updated 3 minutes ago
    Trump strikes blow against Iran nuclear deal in major U.S. policy shift
    Steve Holland
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump struck a blow against the 2015 Iran nuclear agreement on Friday in defiance of other world powers, choosing not to certify that Tehran is complying with the deal and warning he might ultimately terminate it.

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    U.S. President Donald Trump speaks about the Iran nuclear deal in the Diplomatic Room of the White House in Washington, U.S., October 13, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

    Trump announced the major shift in U.S. policy in a speech that detailed a more confrontational approach to Iran over its nuclear and ballistic missile programs and its support for extremist groups in the Middle East.

    Trump said in an address at the White House that his goal is to ensure Iran’s never obtains a nuclear weapon.

    “We will not continue down a path whose predictable conclusion is more violence more terror and the very real threat of Iran’s nuclear breakout,” Trump said.

    While Trump did not pull the United States out of the agreement, aimed at preventing Iran from developing a nuclear bomb, he gave the U.S. Congress 60 days to decide whether to reimpose economic sanctions on Tehran that were lifted under the pact.

    That would increase tension with Iran as well as put Washington at odds with other signatories of the accord such as Britain, France, Germany, Russia, China and the European Union.

    Trump warned that if “we are not able to reach a solution working with Congress and our allies, then the agreement will be terminated.”

    Related Coverage
    Reporting by Steve Holland; Additional reporting by Makini Brice, Patricia Zengerle, Jonathan Landay, Warren Strobel and Arshad Mohammed in Washington, Andrea Shalal in Berlin, Dmitry Solovyov in Moscow, Parisa Hafezi in Ankara and Dan Williams in Jerusalem; Editing by Yara Bayoumy and Alistair Bell
     
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  5. ComeSoon!

    ComeSoon! New Member

    I'm sorry Carol, I cannot reference the seer at this moment. I am familiar with the 15 yr old Israeli boy as well. I would have to do some more direct searching to find the proper site references pertaining to the Middle East. Due to the amount of reference material on that site, I would invite fellow members of this forum to check it out regardless. There are initially 5 tabs at the top and within those, numerous other links.

    Come Holy Spirit! We pray you awaken the hearts of our world to your heart burning with incomprehensible love for us. Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us! As broken as our country is and so much of the world, Your day of Mercy, as foretold by St Faustina and numerous other Saints feels so far off and yet so IMMINENT!
     
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  6. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...mb-drops-tillerson-says-of-diplomacy-with-kim
    Tillerson Pledges Diplomacy With North Korea 'Until the First Bomb Drops'
    @mniquette More stories by Mark Niquette
    3-4 minutes
    By
    October 15, 2017, 10:25 AM EDT October 15, 2017, 11:14 AM EDT

    • Secretary of State says Trump wants him to continue talks

    • McMaster says Trump ‘willing to do anything’ to stop nukes
    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson says President Donald Trump wants him to push forward on diplomacy with North Korea “until the first bomb drops.”

    Until?

    Tillerson’s comments on CNN’s “State of the Union” program on Sunday apparently weren’t meant literally as a timeline for war, as he preceded that quote by saying, “He has made it clear to me to continue my diplomatic efforts,” and that those efforts “will continue until the first bomb drops.”

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    Rex Tillerson

    Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg

    Still, they came as South Korean military officials are readying for another possible missile launch by Pyongyang. Multiple South Korean media reports citing unidentified military officials on Saturday and Sunday said North Korean missile vehicles “kept appearing and disappearing” from the map and “transporter erector launchers” had been spotted carrying ballistic missiles.

    Several times, Trump has said on Twitter that diplomacy with North Korea -- including Tillerson’s own efforts -- was futile, saying on Oct. 7 that “only one thing will work!" in dealing with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un’s ambitions for nuclear weapons capable of reaching the U.S. Two days earlier, Trump had said cryptically during a dinner with military leaders that observers were witnessing “the calm before the storm.”

    H. R. McMaster, Trump’s national security adviser, said the president is “willing to do anything necessary” to prevent Kim from threatening the U.S. with a nuclear weapon.

    “What Kim Jong Un should recognize is that if he thinks the development of this nuclear capability is keeping him safer, it’s actually the opposite. It’s having the opposite effect,” McMaster said on “Fox News Sunday.”
     
  7. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...g-gets-set-to-bolster-his-power-idUSKBN1CL015
    October 15, 2017 / 5:26 AM / Updated 8 hours ago
    North Korea not ready to meet with South Korea in Russia: agencies

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Politicians from North and South Korea will not hold direct talks in Russia on Monday about Pyongyang’s nuclear and missile program despite attending the same event and being urged to do so by Moscow, Russian news agencies said on Sunday.

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    North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un visits the Mangyongdae Revolutionary Academy on its 70th anniversary, in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang October 13, 2017. REUTERS/KCNA
    Valentina Matviyenko, speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, is due to discuss the missile crisis in separate talks with a deputy head of North Korea’s legislature and the head of South Korea’s parliament on the sidelines of a congress of parliamentarians in St Petersburg on Monday.

    Moscow has called on the two countries to use the opportunity to have their own direct talks to try to narrow their differences.

    But the RIA news agency on Sunday cited Piotr Tolstoi, the deputy speaker of the Russian lower house of parliament, and an unnamed member of North Korea’s delegation as saying there would not be any direct talks.

    The unnamed North Korean delegate was quoted as saying that U.S. pressure on Pyongyang and U.S. and South Korean military exercises meant preconditions for such talks had not been met.

    Konstantin Kosachyov, head of the upper house of parliament’s foreign affairs committee, said Moscow would try again on Monday to encourage the two delegations to hold face-to-face talks despite the lack of progress.

    Russian news agencies quoted him as saying that the North Korean delegation had so far declined to hold such talks, while the South Korean delegation had said it was ready for such a meeting.

    “We will definitely not try to coerce or talk somebody into anything,” the Interfax news agency cited Kosachyov as saying.

    “(But) it will be pity, both on the human and political level, if another opportunity to de-escalate tensions in relations between North Korea and South Korea is missed.”

    North Korea’s nuclear tests and missile launches have stirred global tensions and prompted several rounds of international sanctions at the U.N. Security Council.

    A de-escalation plan, backed by Russia and China, would see North Korea suspend its ballistic missile program and the United States and South Korea simultaneously call a moratorium on large-scale missile exercises, both moves aimed at paving the way for multilateral talks.

    Reporting by Andrew Osborn; Editing by Richard Balmforth
     
  8. ComeSoon!

    ComeSoon! New Member

    Carol & friends,
    Here is a partial reference to a previous comment I made last week pertaining to the Middle East. I bought the book with a date of 2016 (the previous version to 2038. If you go to the website of the same name, you will find the excerpt below shown as an introductory section.

    Worldwide Warning
    [​IMG]

    The Warning has been predicted in prophecies in the Catholic Church for over 500 years. In the 20th Century, Mary, Mother of Jesus has predicted this same event with urgency, at three different apparition sites. The Warning or Illumination of Conscience is the first of Ten Secrets or events that will unfold on this earth. The Warning will take place for all humanity, because of an intense build up of cataclysmic events about to unfold in the Middle East that will affect the whole world.

    St. Edmond Campion (1540–1581) priest and martyr states: "I pronounce a great day, not where, in any temporal potentate should minister, but where in, the Terrible Judge, should reveal all men's consciences and try every man of each kind of religion. This is the day of change."1

    Blessed Anna Maria Taigi (1769–1837): "A great purification will come upon the world preceded by an "Illumination of conscience" in which everyone will see themselves as God sees them."2

    St. Faustina Kowalska (1930s): "Once I was summoned to the judgment (seat) of God. I stood alone before the Lord. Jesus appeared such, as we know Him during His Passion. After a moment, His wounds disappeared, except for five, those in His hands, His feet, and His side. Suddenly I saw the complete condition of my soul as God sees it. I could clearly see all that is displeasing to God. I did not know, that even the smallest transgressions, will have to be accounted for."3

    There are many more prophecies about the Worldwide Warning from Catholic saints including prophetic scriptures recorded in the book, "After The Warning To 2038" written by Bruce Cyr.

    In the 20th century, Mary, Mother of Jesus takes action to save lost souls.

    In the early 1960s, Mary appears to four young (11 and 12 years) girls and announces this same event at a place called Garabandal in northern Spain. She relates one other secret that will take place. She relates a third secret as well but it is conditional (does not have to happen) at that time. The Warning will be: "Like a punishment, for the just and the wicked alike. For the just, to bring them closer to God and for the wicked, to announce to them, that time is running out..."4

    ------------------
    Bruce Cyr is easy enough to contact through that site to aid in your personal discernment. About a year or so ago, I felt compelled to start googling Catholic prophesies (far too much "noise" otherwise). This is a portion I found.

    PEACE to all!
    Joan

    In 1981, Mary, Mother of Jesus, visits six young teenagers (1 preteen) at Medjugorje, Bosnia Herzgovina, and announces the same event again but now claims 10 secrets (events) are going to unfold without a doubt. "It is a Warning. It has to be seen…this has to shake us up so the world will start thinking…but to prove there is a God…the first Warning will be self-explanatory."5

    Since 1987, Mary, Mother of Jesus appears to Pedro Regis in Anguera, Brazil and explains the same event is coming with more details. "The Calvary of humanity will begin on a Friday, but the victory of God will come afterwards..." "The day is coming when mankind will have a great chance to repent. God will show a great sign and mankind will have no explanation."6 The Worldwide Warning will come upon all mankind starting on a Friday).
     
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  9. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

  10. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-any-u-s-action-and-youre-safe-idUSKBN1CL2PI
    October 16, 2017 / 2:57 PM / Updated an hour ago
    North Korea warns states: Don't join any U.S. action and you're safe

    UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - North Korea warned countries at the United Nations on Monday in a statement: don’t join the United States in military action against the Asian state and you will be safe from retaliation.

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    North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un inspects the January 18 General Machine Plant in Pyongyang, North Korea in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) on August 10, 2016. KCNA/via REUTERS

    The caution was contained in a copy of North Korean Deputy U.N. Ambassador Kim In Ryong’s prepared remarks for a discussion on nuclear weapons by a U.N. General Assembly committee. However, Kim did not read that section out loud.

    “As long as one does not take part in the U.S. military actions against the DPRK (North Korea), we have no intention to use or threaten to use nuclear weapons against any other country,” according to Kim’s prepared remarks.

    “The entire U.S. mainland is within our firing range and if the U.S. dares to invade our sacred territory even an inch it will not escape our severe punishment in any part of the globe,” the statement read.

    Tensions have soared between the United States and North Korea following a series of weapons tests by Pyongyang and a string of increasingly bellicose exchanges between U.S. President Donald Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The U.N. Security Council has unanimously ratcheted up sanctions on North Korea over its nuclear and ballistic missile programs since 2006.

    North Korean Deputy U.N. Ambassador Kim did tell the U.N. General Assembly committee on Monday: “Unless the hostile policy and the nuclear threat of the U.S. is thoroughly eradicated, we will never put our nuclear weapons and ballistic rockets on the negotiation table under any circumstance.”

    Reporting by Michelle Nichols; Editing by James Dalgleish
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    'Mad dog' anti-Trump leaflets, suspected floated in from North Korea, turn up in Seoul
    October 16, 2017
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...om-north-korea-turn-up-in-seoul-idUSKBN1CL15P

    Here is an article from SpiritDaily written in 2005 which I think is interesting to take a look at now, http://www.spiritdaily.net/Prophecy-seers/propheticfeedbackoct06.htm
     
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  11. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-16/us-deploys-special-forces-decapitation-team-south-korea

    US Deploys Special Forces "Decapitation" Team To South Korea
    Today, the South Korean and U.S. navies kicked off massive combined drills off the coast of the Korean peninsula amid heightened tensions, a training exercise which North Korea has warned may prompt another ballistic missile launch potentially to coincide with the launch of the Chinese 19th Party Congress on October 18. The two allies plan to continue the Maritime Counter Special Operations Exercise (MCSOFEX) through Friday in the East Sea and the Yellow Sea.

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    As reported over the weekend, the drill involves the U.S. 7th Fleet's aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) and two Arleigh Burke-class destroyers - the USS Stethem (DDG-63) and the USS Mustin (DDG-89). The carrier strike group will train with South Korean warships and other defense assets, such as the Sejong the Great Aegis ship and P-3 Orion anti-submarine aircraft in the East Sea.

    And while details of the drill were well-known in advance, what was reported for the first time overnight from Yonhap is that a unit of U.S. special forces tasked with carrying out "decapitation" operations is also aboard a nuclear-powered submarine in the group, according to a defense source. So far, little else is known about why said decapitation team is on location, or whether it will be put into use, although it presence may explain Trump's "calm before the storm" comment that beffudled the media two weeks ago.

    Among other assets mobilized for the joint drill are F-15K, FA-18 and A-10 fighter jets, as well as AH-64E Apache attack helicopters, Lynx and AW-159 Wild Cat naval choppers. The U.S. has also deployed a Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (JSTARS) plane to closely monitor the North's ground and naval forces.

    Some more details about the drill from Yonhap:

    The joint training is aimed at promoting "communications, interoperability and partnership in the (U.S.) 7th Fleet area of operations," the fleet said. It initially announced that the practice around the peninsula will end next Thursday but later corrected the date to Friday. Meanwhile, the U.S. has sent a B-1B Lancer strategic bomber, F-22 Raptor stealth fighter jets and several other types of high-profile defense assets to the Seoul air show to open this week.

    "Approximately 200 U.S. personnel are expected to participate in the Seoul International Aerospace and Defense Exhibition (ADEX) 2017, scheduled from Oct. 17-22 at the Seoul K-16 airport," the 7th Air Force said.

    Among the U.S. military aircraft to join the biennial event are the F-22 Raptor, B-1B Lancer, A-10 Thunderbolt II, C-17 Globemaster III, C-130J Hercules, KC-135 Stratotanker, E-3 Sentry, U-2 Dragon Lady and RQ-4 Global Hawk, it added. Also fielded will be the Air Force's fifth-generation fighter, the F-35A Lightning II, U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon and a U.S. Army CH-47F Chinook.

    "This year's air show will feature demonstrations from U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptors assigned to the 3rd Wing, Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska," the 7th Air Force said. More than 400 defense firms from 33 countries plan to participate in the ADEX to begin Tuesday.

    As part of the drills, the US military said on Monday that it would practice evacuating noncombatant Americans out of South Korea in the event of war and other emergencies, the NYT reported. The evacuation drill, known as Courageous Channel, is aimed at preparing American “service members and their families to respond to a wide range of crisis management events such as noncombatant evacuation and natural or man-made disasters,” the United States military said in a statement.

    The South Korean government of President Moon Jae-in has repeatedly warned that it opposes a military solution to the North Korean nuclear crisis because it could quickly escalate into a full-blown war in which Koreans would suffer the most, with some estimates predicting that over 2 million South Koreans could die in the North Korean retaliation.

    Meanwhile, on Monday, North Korea accused the US of “pushing” the DPRK into making a hydrogen bomb, the head of North Korea’s delegation to the multinational Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) meeting has said.

    “Exactly the US have pushed the DPRK [Democratic People’s Republic of Korea] to become a possessor of the hydrogen bomb,” the deputy chairman of the Supreme People’s Assembly of North Korea, An Tong Chun, announced Monday. The North Korean official was speaking at the assembly of the world’s oldest international body of lawmakers in St. Petersburg, Russia. Parliamentarians from more than 160 nations are attending the IPU session.

    The question now is whether North Korea will once again test said Hydrogen bomb and, if so, whether the crack "decapiation" team meant to take out North Korea's leadership will be put to use.
     
  12. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    Brian, Thank you for posting that. The DPRK sees the USA as the cause, this is very apparent by the last statement that you bolded above and also in the following article. They are all set to blame everything on President Trump, hence all of the propaganda that has been distributed to their people. This article is basically the same as the last one that I posted except for a few small additions including the headline,

    North Korean UN envoy says 'nuclear war may break out at any moment'
    Deputy ambassador Kim In-ryong tells general assembly his nation has been subjected to ‘extreme and direct nuclear threat’ from US
    October 16, 2017
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-says-nuclear-war-may-break-out-at-any-moment .

    PS - Did anyone notice the faces on the children with Kim Jong-un in that photo that I posted? I don't think that one child is smiling, they all look frightened and scared.
     
  13. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

    http://buchanan.org/blog/war-iran-now-inevitable-127759

    Is War With Iran Now Inevitable?
    By Patrick J. Buchanan

    With his declaration Friday that the Iran nuclear deal is not in the national interest, President Donald Trump may have put us on the road to war with Iran.

    Indeed, it is easier to see the collisions that are coming than to see how we get off this road before the shooting starts.

    After “de-certifying” the nuclear agreement, signed by all five permanent members of the Security Council, Trump gave Congress 60 days to reimpose the sanctions that it lifted when Teheran signed.

    If Congress does not reimpose those sanctions and kill the deal, Trump threatens to kill it himself.

    Why? Did Iran violate the terms of the agreement? Almost no one argues that — not the UN nuclear inspectors, not our NATO allies, not even Trump’s national security team.

    Iran shipped all its 20 percent enriched uranium out of the country, shut down most of its centrifuges, and allowed intrusive inspections of all nuclear facilities. Even before the deal, 17 U.S. intelligence agencies said they could find no evidence of an Iranian nuclear bomb program.

    Indeed, if Iran wanted a bomb, Iran would have had a bomb.

    She remains a non-nuclear-weapons state for a simple reason: Iran’s vital national interests dictate that she remain so.

    As the largest Shiite nation with 80 million people, among the most advanced in the Mideast, Iran is predestined to become the preeminent power in the Persian Gulf. But on one condition: She avoid the great war with the United States that Saddam Hussein failed to avoid.

    Iran shut down any bomb program it had because it does not want to share Iraq’s fate of being smashed and broken apart into Persians, Azeris, Arabs, Kurds and Baluch, as Iraq was broken apart by the Americans into Sunni, Shiite, Turkmen, Yazidis and Kurds.

    Tehran does not want war with us. It is the War Party in Washington and its Middle East allies — Bibi Netanyahu and the Saudi royals — who hunger to have the United States come over and smash Iran.

    Thus, the Congressional battle to kill, or not to kill, the Iran nuclear deal shapes up as decisive in the Trump presidency.

    Yet, even earlier collisions with Iran may be at hand.

    In Syria’s east, U.S.-backed and Kurd-led Syrian Democratic Forces are about to take Raqqa. But as we are annihilating ISIS in its capital, the Syrian army is driving to capture Deir Ezzor, capital of the province that sits astride the road from Baghdad to Damascus.

    Its capture by Bashar Assad’s army would ensure that the road from Baghdad to Damascus to Hezbollah in Lebanon remains open.

    If the U.S. intends to use the SDF to seize the border area, we could find ourselves in a battle with the Syrian army, Shiite militia, the Iranians, and perhaps even the Russians.

    Are we up for that?

    In Iraq, the national army is moving on oil-rich Kirkuk province and its capital city. The Kurds captured Kirkuk after the Iraqi army fled from the ISIS invasion. Why is a U.S.-trained Iraqi army moving against a U.S.-trained Kurdish army?

    The Kurdistan Regional Government voted last month to secede. This raised alarms in Turkey and Iran, as well as Baghdad. An independent Kurdistan could serve as a magnet to Kurds in both those countries.

    Baghdad’s army is moving on Kirkuk to prevent its amputation from Iraq in any civil war of secession by the Kurds.

    Where does Iran stand in all of this?

    In the war against ISIS, they were de facto allies. For ISIS, like al-Qaida, is Sunni and hates Shiites as much as it hates Christians. But if the U.S. intends to use the SDF to capture the Iraqi-Syrian border, Syria, Iran, Hezbollah and Russia could all be aligned against us.

    Are we ready for such a clash?

    We Americans are coming face to face with some new realities.

    The people who are going to decide the future of the Middle East are the people who live there. And among these people, the future will be determined by those most willing to fight, bleed and die for years and in considerable numbers to realize that future.

    We Americans, however, are not going to send another army to occupy another country, as we did Kuwait in 1991, Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003.

    Bashar Assad, his army and air force backed by Vladimir Putin’s air power, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran, and Hezbollah won the Syrian civil war because they were more willing to fight and die to win it. And, truth be told, all had far larger stakes there than did we.

    We do not live there. Few Americans are aware of what is going on there. Even fewer care.

    Our erstwhile allies in the Middle East naturally want us to fight their 21st-century wars, as the Brits got us to help fight their 20th-century wars.

    But Donald Trump was not elected to do that. Or so at least some of us thought.
     
  14. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ed-nuclear-deal-if-u-s-quits-it-idUSKBN1CN167
    October 18, 2017 / 5:41 AM / Updated 8 hours ago
    Khamenei says Iran will 'shred' nuclear deal if U.S. quits it
    Parisa Hafezi

    ANKARA (Reuters) - Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Wednesday Tehran would stick to its 2015 nuclear accord with world powers as long as the other signatories respected it, but would “shred” the deal if Washington pulled out, state TV reported.
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    Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei gestures as he speaks during a meeting with students in Tehran, Iran, October 18, 2017. Leader.ir/Handout via REUTERS
    Khamenei spoke five days after U.S. President Donald Trump adopted a harsh new approach to Iran by refusing to certify its compliance with the deal, reached under Trump’s predecessor Barack Obama, and saying he might ultimately terminate it.

    “I don’t want to waste my time on answering the rants and whoppers of the brute (U.S.) president,” Khamenei said in a speech to students in Tehran quoted by state television.

    “Trump’s stupidity should not distract us from America’s deceitfulness ... If the U.S. tears up the deal, we will shred it ... Everyone should know that once again America will receive a slap in its mouth and will be defeated by Iranians.”

    Trump’s move put Washington at odds with other parties to the accord - Britain, France, Germany, Russia, China and the European Union - who say Washington cannot unilaterally cancel an international accord enshrined by a U.N. resolution.

    Khamenei, who has the final say on Iran’s state matters, welcomed European support but said it was not sufficient.

    “European states stressed their backing for the deal and condemned Trump ... We welcomed this, but it is not enough to ask Trump not to rip up the agreement. Europe needs to stand against practical measures (taken) by America.”

    Under the deal, Iran agreed to curb its disputed uranium enrichment program in return for relief from international sanctions that crippled its economy, and U.N. nuclear inspectors have repeatedly certified Tehran’s compliance with the terms.

    Trump accuses Iran of supporting terrorism and says the 2015 deal does not do enough to block its path to acquiring nuclear weapons. Iran says it does not seek nuclear arms and in turn blames the growth of militant groups such as Islamic State on the policies of the United States and its regional allies.

    In decertifying the nuclear deal last week, Trump gave the U.S. Congress 60 days to decide whether to reimpose economic sanctions on Tehran that were lifted under the pact.

    “DO NOT INTERFERE”

    In a major shift in U.S. policy, Trump also said Washington will take a more confrontational approach to Iran over its ballistic missile program and its support for extremist groups in the Middle East.

    Tehran has repeatedly pledged to continue what it calls a defensive missile capability in defiance of Western criticism. The United States has said Iran’s stance violates the 2015 deal in spirit as missiles could be tipped with nuclear weapons.

    Tehran has said it seeks only civilian nuclear energy from its enrichment of uranium, and that the program has nothing to do with missile development efforts.

    EU foreign ministers on Monday urged U.S. lawmakers not to reimpose sanctions on Tehran but also discussed Iran’s missile program, which they want to see dismantled.

    “They must avoid interfering in our defense program ... We do not accept that Europe sings along with America’s bullying and its unreasonable demands,” Khamenei said.

    “They (Europeans) ask why does Iran have missiles? Why do you have missiles yourselves? Why do you have nuclear weapons?”

    The Trump administration has imposed new unilateral sanctions targeting Iran’s missile activity. It has called on Tehran not to develop missiles capable of delivering nuclear bombs. Iran says it has no such plans.

    Related Coverage
    Iran has one of the biggest ballistic missile programs in the Middle East, viewing it as an essential precautionary defense against the United States and other adversaries, primarily Gulf Arab states and Israel.

    “Americans are angry because the Islamic Republic of Iran has managed to thwart their plots in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and other countries in the region,” Khamenei said.

    Supporters of the deal fear Trump’s decision to decertify the deal could eventually unravel it, causing more tension in the crisis-hit Middle East, where Shi‘ite Iran is involved in a decades long proxy war with U.S. ally Sunni Saudi Arabia.

    If the deal falls apart, Iran’s anti-Western hardliners will gain authority in a backlash against pragmatic President Hassan Rouhani, who engineered the accord to help end Iran’s political and economic isolation, analysts and insiders say.

    Writing by Parisa Hafezi; editing by Mark Heinrich
     
  15. BrianK

    BrianK Resident Kook, Crank, Curmudgeon - & Mod Staff Member

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/north-korea-warns-faces-unimaginable-11368269

    North Korea warns US faces 'unimaginable' strike if it continues military drills
    The Kim Jong-Un regime has hyped up its war talk again
    • 02:16, 19 OCT 2017
    • Updated07:42, 19 OCT 2017
    North Korea has upped its war talk once again, warning the United States it faces an "unimaginable" military strike.

    The Kim Jong-un regime was reacting to the continued drills being carried out by the US and South Korea in the region.

    Next week the allies will carry out Courageous Channel in which Americans in the area will practice being evacuated in the event of a "crisis".

    Although it is carried out twice a year, it has heightened fears of military conflict.

    North Korea's state news agency said in a statement: "The US is running amok by introducing under our nose the targets we have set as primary ones.

    "The US should expect that it would face unimaginable strike at an unimaginable time."

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    There are fears Kim Jong-un is preparing to authorise a fresh missile test (Image: AFP)
    Last week, North Korea was spotted moving multiple missiles sparking fears of a fresh launch.

    A US spy satellite captured images of missiles mounted on launchers being moved out of a hangar near the capital Pyongyang last Friday, it was claimed.

    American and South Korean intelligence agencies are now preparing for the Kim Jong-un regime to carry out a new provocation in defiance of worldwide condemnation.

    It had been expected the most likely date for a new missile launch would be October 10, the anniversary of Kim's political party.

    But that date passed without any notable military movements.

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    However the new satellite images suggest Kim will go ahead with another test of its intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    A source told South Korean newspaper The Dong-A Ilbo: "The North may carry out a simultaneous launch of ICBM and IRBM within a few days in protest against the U.S.'s show of military might."

    The US and her ally South Korea have carried out a series of military drills recently.

    Two US Air Force supersonic heavy bombers were flown over the Korean peninsula , despite threats from North Korea to shoot down American planes.

    Two B-1B Lancers based in Guam flew a mission in the vicinity of the Sea of Japan, staging the first night-time joint aviation exercises with Japan and South Korea.

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    Fears of new nuclear test in North Korea after earthquake is detected near test site

    In response, Kim Jong-un ’s government warned the joint exercise had ‘hardened our determination that the U.S. should be tamed with fire’.

    The government said the military drills ‘lets us take our hand closer to the trigger for taking the toughest countermeasure’.

    In August, North Korea threatened to fire a salvo of intermediate range missiles toward the U.S. Pacific island territory.

    Guam is a major military hub and home to U.S. bombers that periodically fly missions over the divided Korean Peninsula.

    Yesterday, White House Chief of Staff John Kelly said there’s ‘great concern’ about Americans who live in Guam.

    Speaking at a White House news conference he said: “Right now we think the threat is manageable. Let’s hope that diplomacy works.”

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    Satellite pictures expose "activity" at North Korean shipyard where submarines are equipped with ballistic missiles

    The fresh threat was published in North Korean state media.

    It also said that North Korea has ‘already warned several times that we will take counteractions for self-defence including a salvo of missiles into waters near the US territory of Guam’.

    It is unlikely to have any effect on next week’s planned major joint-navy drill between Sourth Korea and the U.S.

    In a statement the US 7th Fleet said the USS Ronald Regan aircraft carrier and two US destroyers would take part in the drill alongside South Korean Navy vessels.
     
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    Carol55 Powers

    Brian, Thank you for posting this. This news has made it rounds to all of the MSM. I am highlighting the following statements from the article that you posted,
    1. "The US should expect that it would face unimaginable strike at an unimaginable time."
    2. "The North may carry out a simultaneous launch of ICBM and IRBM within a few days in protest against the U.S.'s show of military might."
    3. The US and her ally South Korea have carried out a series of military drills recently...In response, Kim Jong-un's government warned the joint exercise had ‘hardened our determination that the U.S. should be tamed with fire’.
    4. The government said the military drills ‘lets us take our hand closer to the trigger for taking the toughest countermeasure’.
    It seems that statement number 2 provides answers to statement number 1. Will they follow through on this threat, who knows? I highlighted statement number 3 because it reminds me of the prophecy from Akita. Finally, a harsher (?) threat in statement number 4.

    Yesterday, I posted a related article to the following one on the "Signs" thread,
    Trump blasts 'Fake Media' for ignoring Russia uranium deal sealed 'with Clinton help'
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/19/trump-blasts-fake-media-for-ignoring-russia-uranium-deal-sealed-with-clinton-help.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+foxnews/politics+(Internal+-+Politics+-+Text)&utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results

    I can't help but wonder if this US uranium which was sold to a Russian company with possible "Clinton help and Obama administration knowledge" made its way to North Korea somehow and will possibly be fired upon us in the form of a nuclear weapon. Could this be part of what the Blessed Mother warned us about when she stated that, "Russia will spread it errors"?

    What a mess.
     
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    Carol55 Powers

    I want to clarify that my comment on what happened to the uranium in my previous post is purely speculation.

    Here is the perspective of the current situation with North Korea from an optimist ...

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/10/19/16503254/north-korea-threat-unimaginable-strike-trump
    October 19, 2017
    North Korea threatened an “unimaginable strike” on the US. Here's why you shouldn't panic.

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...ts-chance-of-a-north-korea-deal-idUSKBN1CO2CY
    October 19, 2017

    Commentary: Trump’s Iran decision hurts chance of a North Korea deal
    with North Korea

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...n-letter-to-australia-lawmakers-idUSKBN1CO385
    October 19, 2017

    North Korea warns threats a 'big miscalculation' in letter to Australia lawmakers

     
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    Carol55 Powers

    Nuclear North Korea is non-negotiable, diplomat says
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41699425
    October 20, 2017

    A North Korea diplomat has said the country's ballistic nuclear weapons programme is non-negotiable.

    Choe Son-hui said the US should "be prepared to co-exist with" a nuclear North Korea.

    She said it was "the only way to secure lasting peace on the Korean peninsula".

    CIA director Mike Pompeo earlier warned that North Korea would probably be able to hit the US with a nuclear missile within months. North Korea claims it already has the capability.

    Mr Pompeo stressed that Washington still preferred diplomacy and sanctions but said force remained an option for the US.
    Speaking at a non-proliferation conference in Moscow, Ms Choe repeated phrasing used before by North Korean officials that nuclear weapons are "a matter of life and death" for the country.

    Earlier this year, she was reported as saying that the country's government would be open for talks with the US, if conditions were right.

    But on Friday Ms Choe said North Korea would consider the implementation of "so-called UN sanctions resolutions" an act of aggression and war.

    Since North Korea stepped up its missile testing earlier this year, sanctions against its economy have intensified.

    The Australian government said on Friday that it had received a letter from North Korea, seemingly also sent to other countries, urging it to distance itself from the US.

    On Thursday, Mr Pompeo warned that Pyongyang's missile expertise was now advancing so quickly that it was hard for US intelligence to be sure when it would succeed, but said it would happen soon.

    "When you're now talking about months our capacity to understand that at a detailed level is in some sense irrelevant," he said.

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    US Preparing for North Korea's 'Final Step'
    October 20, 2017
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/19/politics/north-korea-officials-mash-up/index.html
     
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    Carol55 Powers

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...t-should-be-taken-literally-cnn-idUSKBN1CU2EI
    October 25, 2017
    North Korea: threat of atmospheric nuclear test should be taken literally - CNN

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The North Korean foreign minister’s recent warning of a possible atmospheric nuclear test over the Pacific Ocean should be taken literally, a senior North Korean official told CNN in an interview aired on Wednesday.

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    People perform for North Korean leader Kim Jong Un during a celebration for nuclear scientists and engineers who contributed to a hydrogen bomb test, in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang on September 10, 2017. KCNA via REUTERS

    “The foreign minister is very well aware of the intentions of our supreme leader, so I think you should take his words literally,” Ri Yong Pil, a senior diplomat in North Korea’s Foreign Ministry, told CNN.

    North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong Ho said last month Pyongyang may consider conducting “the most powerful detonation” of a hydrogen bomb over the Pacific Ocean amid rising tensions with the United States.

    The minister made the comment after President Donald Trump warned that the United States would “totally destroy” North Korea, which has been working to develop nuclear-tipped missiles capable of hitting America, if it threatened the United States.

    CIA chief Mike Pompeo said last week that North Korea could be only months away from gaining the ability to hit the United States with nuclear weapons.

    Experts say an atmospheric test would be a way of demonstrating that capability. All of North Korea’s previous nuclear tests have been conducted underground.

    Trump next week will make a visit to Asia during which he will highlight his campaign to pressure North Korea to give up its nuclear and missile programs.

    The strategy has so far failed to stop Pyongyang conducting nuclear bomb tests at an underground facility and test-firing ballistic missiles into the Pacific Ocean over Japan.

    In spite of the bellicose rhetoric and repeated U.S. warnings that all options, including military ones, are on the table, White House officials say Trump is looking for a peaceful resolution of the standoff.

    Separately, the U.S. Navy said in a statement that the aircraft carrier strike group Nimitz had entered the 7th fleet area of operation, which includes the Western Pacific and Indian Ocean.

    It joins two other carriers, the Ronald Reagan and Theodore Roosevelt, in the region. Additional aircraft carriers are usually viewed suspiciously by China and North Korea.

    Navy officials said the Nimitz, which was previously carrying out operations in support of the fight against Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, would be ready to support operations in the region before heading back to its home port and the movement had been long planned. It comes ahead of Trump’s visit to Asia, which includes China.

    Reporting by David Alexander, David Brunnstrom and Idrees Ali in Washington; Editing by Doina Chiacu and James Dalgleish
     
  20. Carol55

    Carol55 Powers

    The situation in Qatar is related to Iran and therefore, I am posting this here...

    October 29, 2017 / 7:06 PM / Updated an hour ago
    Qatar emir says open to Trump-hosted talks over Gulf crisis: CBS
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...sted-talks-over-gulf-crisis-cbs-idUSKBN1CY0WK
    DOHA (Reuters) - Qatar’s ruler said he is ready for U.S.-hosted direct talks aimed at solving the worst diplomatic crisis in the Gulf in years but has yet to hear a response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s invitation to the four Arab states boycotting Doha.

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    Qatar's Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani is seen during a joint news conference with Indonesian President Joko Widodo at the presidential palace in Bogor, West Java province, Indonesia October 18, 2017. REUTERS/Beawiharta
    Speaking to U.S. broadcaster CBS News, Qatari Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani said he wanted an end to the dispute, which erupted on June 5 and pits Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt against Qatar.

    “Nothing is going to be above our dignity, our sovereignty. But we want it to end. I always say that,” he told the “60 Minutes” program in an interview aired on Sunday. “If they (are) going to walk one meter toward me, I‘m willing to walk 10,000 miles towards them,” he said.

    The four countries have cut diplomatic, transport and trade ties with Qatar, the world’s top seller of liquefied natural gas, accusing it of financing terrorism. Doha denies the charges.

    The dispute has hit travel and food imports and ratcheted up tensions in a wealthy region which plays a leading role in global energy markets as well as events across the wider Middle East.

    Qatar hosts Al Udeid air base, the largest U.S. military facility in the Middle East.

    Sheikh Tamim said Trump had told him “I will not accept my friends fighting amongst themselves,” and that in talks on the sidelines of a United Nations’ meeting in September he had made an offer to host talks in the United States.

    “I told him straightaway, ‘Mr President, we are very ready. I’ve been asking for dialogue from day one,” Sheikh Tamim said, adding that the meeting was supposed to happen very soon and that he had not heard a response from the other countries.

    Trump, who has said he would be willing to mediate in the dispute, said in September he had a “very strong feeling” it would be solved “pretty quickly”.

    Earlier in September, Saudi Arabia suspended any dialogue with Qatar, accusing it of “distorting facts,” just after a report of a phone call between the leaders of the two countries suggested a possible breakthrough in the dispute.

    Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman spoke by phone with Qatar’s emir on Sept. 8 in the first publicly reported contact between the two leaders since the crisis began.

    There has been no further contact reported since then.

    In the CBS interview, Sheikh Tamim reiterated that Qatar would not close down the Doha-based Al Jazeera television network, as demanded by the four countries who accuse the broadcaster of bias and interfering in their affairs.

    Al Jazeera says it is an independent news service giving a voice to everyone in the region.

    Sheikh Tamim also said he feared for the region if any military actions were taken as part of the crisis.

    “I‘m fearful that if anything happens, if any military act happens, this region will be in chaos,” he said.

    Reporting by Eric Knecht; Editing by Adrian Croft

    _________________________________________________________________
    Here is the "60 Minutes" interview,

    Qatar's emir stands defiant in face of blockade
    A blockade that began in early June has shut Qatar's only land crossing. But the small country's leader isn't bowing to pressure to change the non-conformist nation's ways

    2017 Oct 29 Correspondent Charlie Rose


    There is a crisis in the Middle East you may not know much about. It's a bitter fight among American allies that has the potential to unravel the U.S.-led coalition that is battling ISIS and trying to contain Iran. At the center of the dispute is the tiny nation of Qatar, home to the busiest and most vital American air base in the region. On June 5th, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Bahrain launched a suffocating economic and political blockade against Qatar, accusing the country of funding terrorism and cozying up to Iran. Qatar has denied and denounced the charges. The target of the nearly five-month-old siege is Qatar's 37-year-old emir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, who is now facing the challenge of saving his country.

    continued here... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/qatars-emir-stands-defiant-in-face-of-blockade/
     
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