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Luz de Maria Message

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Fatima, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    What authority do you possess that can discern who have the God given gifts of of discernment that I may follow your keen insight? Are you a theologian, as Peter is? Have you met any alleged messengers as Peter has? Please let us know how your insight in more astute then Peter's. You say you know him. How so?
     
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  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    What I find very annoying is arm chair quarterbacks who will reject every alleged messenger without any substantial reasoning, such as what they are saying is heresy, or it is out of the Catholic prophetic consensus or any other credible reasoning whatsoever. Some go so far as to reject the writings of Luisa Piccaretta, without any sound reasoning, yet dismiss the fact that her spiritual director is a canonized saint today! If anyone can bring forth some credible information that would help us discern messengers then please do so. If your opinions shared publicly are at odds with what God and his Blessed Mother are doing for us, you are doing your own soul harm. You are potentially fighting against what God is doing. You are rejecting scripture which say's, "do not despise prophecy". I am not saying one should believe everything that is out there, but when it is not opposed with scripture, church teaching or the consensus of Catholic prophecy then best remain silent than to stifle what God and our Blessed Mother may be doing for us, their children in the most confusing times ever. Personally, my worldly life changed when I first heard of Fatima the Akita 30+ years ago. It was the first time in my Catholic journey that I had any indication that God is and always has been extremely intimate with us his children and is doing what he said he would through prophecy and dreams. I stopped being a 'Thomas' when I was changed by prophecy, which led me deeper into scripture and church teachings. All I am saying is be very careful you are not stifling God's activity.
     
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  3. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    I reserve judgment on Garabandel and Medj, but I tend to believe them. There are some I take no position on. And then some I’m very skeptical of
     
  4. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    Fatima and Akita are approved. There is a reason. There is a big difference between those and the dozens of people who claim they get visits today.

    You think Mary would ever talk about climate change?
     
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  5. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    That's my point Dean. Fatima and Akita were not approved at one point. Hardly no one believed them, even their own parish priest. They were laughed at and mocked daily. Their own parents were reluctant to believe in them. Yet for 6 months they were persecuted by both the Freemason's and Catholics. I think you and I would have been on the different side of the fence 100 years ago at Fatima and 45 years ago at Akita as well, when it comes to alleged messages from heaven. I don't fully embrace all the alleged messages, but I do pay attention and take what is fruitful from many of them. I did as much with Charlie Johnson's alleged messages. I took what was sound and dismissed after studying him further on video's and various way's he spoke to put his alleged messages in a 'don't bother' column. But I did so, because when his messages did not come to fruition as he said, he had to try and spin them and that is not what true messengers do.
     
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  6. Frodo

    Frodo Angels

    I wish I had more time to post, but I wanted to chime in. Forgive the brevity and lack of format.

    * Can someone point out exactly where Peter B is a "theologian"? Best I can find is that he holds only a master's degree and he teaches music. Maybe I missed it, but if not that claim is false.

    * Even if I missed it and it turns out he is a theologian.... he is one that is shown to have poor judgement in my opinion. Labeling as "conservative" and criticising outlets that present orthodox viewpoints is not good judgement. Let alone his leaning on questionable visuonaries. You can read more about his criticisms here: http://www.thinkingfaith.org/articles/pope-francis-hermeneutic-conspiracy-and-‘three-f’s’

    * Asking someone what current apparitions they believe in is not fair or rather useful in this discussion as is presuming what side of Fatima or Akita they would be on. Be thankful for the Churches judgement, who really knows where anyone of us would be if we were living in other times. But for the grace of God...

    * The fact of the matter is that many, many apparitions are not of God. We must be very careful. Mass, Sacraments, Rosary, these are what will save us. There is nothing in New apparitions that will change that. Apparitions are not to be news commentators. This is not how our Lady works. It should be rather obvious, especially for anyone who has studied prophecy.

    * I don't have this info at my fingertips, but it has been said that Satan will multiply false visions during these days in order to trick the elect. Let's concentrate, especially now in this time of confusion when evil seems to be winning, on prayer and sacrifice. I know this opinion will not be pipular on this board, but There is nothing that you will gather from current apparitions that will help You or give you something that will help you more than what you have already been given in the Church, her sacraments, and approved revelations up till now.
     
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  7. Dean

    Dean Archangels

    I think I am open to them a lot more than you believe I am. As a matter of fact I thought CJ was real right up until the end. I'm open, and was open to Luz for a long time. But the more I read, the less I thought it was something more than one person's thoughts. You say we would have disagreed on Fatima/Akita, I do not think so.
     
  8. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Hmmm...I see them pointing to various news reports to back up what they had ALREADY warned of. And one would have to be wary of using any particular news reports speculating on future events for then you would have to hope that they will actually come to pass! If any news is used it's normally what isn't being currently accepted by the general public (or Church) so that in itself is a risk.
    Why not? Esp. in translations from the Spanish into the useful terms of the culture for getting the point across for general recognition. She also mentions within the larger context of the messages as a whole....rather than plucking a couple of personally distasteful terms to base a judgement of the whole.....things that the public is largely kept from knowing by the agencies of power and science and $$$, like the future expected cosmic events involving the now surprising (even to the trusted watchers) and sudden entry of meteors/ites; systems; other "suns"; etc. And this before such things become noticed and forced into a portion of the news. She mentions within this broader term of climate, as a whole, changing.....the shifting of poles to the point where there will not be time to adjust the normal growing seasons and expected types of crops for regions. A whole lot there; moral, spiritual effecting the natural order of things, in order to prepare and guide her children....carrying forth the promise of God not doing anything without warning His people first.
     
  9. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Latest translated message to Luz de Maria


    MESSAGE FROM OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
    TO HIS BELOVED DAUGHTER LUZ DE MARIA

    OCTOBER 20, 2017



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    My Beloved People:



    IN MY HEART ALL MEN DWELL AND IN IT I AWAIT THEM.



    My People, My Mercy does not turn away any of My children, but on the contrary, it welcomes the one who approaches truly having repented and who takes being My child seriously, and with seriousness and conscience decides to correct their life, work and action.



    Humanity is in great confusion and My Church is accepting paths that take them away from Me.



    KEEP IN MIND THAT WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF THE HUMAN WILL, SIN WOULD NOT BE CARRIED OUT...



    Children, whoever persists in sinning again and again without due repentance and timely amendment, neither deciding to eliminate sin, condemns themselves. Sin exists, it is not something unreal. If sin did not exist, none of My children would be rebuked by Me and called to conversion.



    I have mentioned to you that the soul retains its free will exercised by the human will but:
    I do not want children who follow Me by force...
    I do not want slaves, but free children, yet truly free to love Me.



    FOLLOW ME AS FREE CHILDREN, DISAVOW PRIDE AND MAKE YOURSELVES THE SMALLEST OF ALL IN ORDER THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO TRUST IN ME AND NOT IN YOURSELVES.



    Man knows the consequences of sin, and these consequences do not change for this generation: I WILL RATHER BE MORE SEVERE WITH THIS HUMAN RACE THAT DOES NOT SEE SIN AS SIN AND WANTS TO FORCE ME TO FORGIVE WHAT I AM NOT GOING TO FORGIVE IF YOU DO NOT CORRECT YOUR WORK AND ACTION WITHIN WHAT IS SINFUL AND TAKE A DEFINITIVE DECISION TO MAKE AMENDS.



    Every human creature has the assistance of My Holy Spirit to whom it may have recourse so that He assists with the process of amendment and in order to turn away completely from the vices that kill the soul. You strive to live in misery, I see you prostrate on the ground, muddying yourselves repeatedly in sin and with great weakness you relapse again and again without reconsidering what you are doing.



    IF YOU DO NOT KNOW ME, YOU WILL NOT MANAGE TO GRASP THE STRATEGIES OF SATAN FOR INVOLVING YOU IN SIN AND KEEPING YOU ON THE PATH OF UNREPENTANCE THAT WILL LEAD YOU TO THE SECOND DEATH. Persistence in sin and unrepentance are the means that evil uses so that you do not wake up, nor look at Me, nor change.



    Saying "everything is good" ..., "sin does not offend God because God is Mercy and forgives everything" ..., "man is saved because Christ paid for the sins of man and man does not have to repent"…"purgatory does not exist" ..., "hell does not exist" ... IS THE MASTER KEY OF SATAN SO THAT YOU REMAIN LIKE HIM, FALLEN BECAUSE OF SIN, AND SO THAT YOU ARE CONDEMNED. For some it is hard to imagine that demons are on Earth continually tempting man and providing you with every assistance so that you sin.



    THE MAN OF THIS INSTANT MUST SEEK UNION WITH THE DIVINE WILL BY ALL MEANS, SINCE HE HAS LOST THE SENSE OF WHAT DISPLEASES ME AND WHAT OUR WILL HAS COMMANDED YOU TO FULFILL AND TO OBEY IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. You have lost love, and from that derive all the consequences of what you are suffering at this instant.



    Misused free will impedes the flow of communication with Our Divine Will. Therefore, to make amends and to leave the state of sin, you need to go to Our Holy Spirit and ask Him to pour upon you the grace to act and work correctly, thus being united with Our Trinity, with My Church as Mystical Body, with the Sacraments and My Mother, Mother of Humanity.



    My People, you have habits of conduct, food, studies and others. Similarly, the person who sins continually allows that sin to change into a habit, without thinking that this habit can become what turns them definitively into a sinner without repentance.



    Sin acquires strength in man until it becomes impossible to act according to the good. You ignore the fact that acting and working within the good and in fulfilling the good will lead you to find greater fluency in approaching Me, it will be more pleasing to you to fulfill the Commandments and approach the Sacraments, Wisdom will make its nest in you, brotherhood will be a necessity, freedom will be felt and enjoyed by the creature and the Powers of the Soul will rise, this way you will enter with joy into being part of My Mystical Body.

    I have come to say: "no to sin!" and to point this out so that you are clear on what is sin and what is not sin, and the scope of sin when the human creature does not repent.



    Come to know Me! so that you are not told to accept what is sin ...
    Come to know Me! so that you say "No!" to what appears to be good, and to what at this instant, under the weight of modernism and libertinism, is presented as something natural and not contrary to Our Will ...



    THIS INSTANT OF GREAT CONFUSION FOR MY PEOPLE IS THE INSTANT IN WHICH EACH ONE OF MY CHILDREN HAS THE OBLIGATION OF KNOWING ME DEEPLY IN ORDER NOT TO FALL INTO WHAT IS IMPROPER.



    You find yourselves in the Purification because you have been allowed to disobey Me and to accept ideologies that are not Our Will.



    All are My children, but not all fulfill the Divine Will. Man soon forgets what it does not suit him to remember and welcomes with great joy that which allows him to live as he wants, even if this means losing Eternal Life.



    This instant of purification is an instant of My Mercy in which I remain attentive to a word of repentance, looking at every heart, every conscience, every human creature in order to draw near and draw it towards Me.



    HUMANITY IS BEING PURIFIED BY NATURE, ALTHOUGH MY CHILDREN DO NOT SEE THIS PURIFICATION AS A OPPORTUNITY FOR CONVERSION, BUT ON THE CONTRARY SINGLE ME OUT AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SUFFERING, THE CALAMITIES, THE TRIBULATIONS OF LIFE, WITHOUT BEING AWARE THAT EVIL WORK AND ACTION ATTRACTS EVIL.



    The Sun, the Moon, everything in the firmament and all that man has placed in Space is related to man. At this instant the Sun is acting on the Earth, even in its depths, as never before. It acts on man, not only on the skin, but on work and action, for good or for evil, precisely if this man lives by what is worldly because he is unable to control himself. The Moon acts on man, as it acts on the sea, all Creation influences man. And the man of science has placed satellites and more in Space; the instant is arriving when some will fall upon the Earth, causing catastrophes.



    The Sun will come to make technological advances disappear, and Humanity will return to living primitively. The sun will stop giving heat and cold will overtake the Earth. (1)



    YOU DO NOT THINK FURTHER THAN YOU CAN SEE AND LIVE IN THIS INSTANT...



    My People feel that that they control everything, even the Sun, the Moon and the whole firmament. This is not so, children, it is not so, therefore you must be humble and recognize that you need Divine Assistance, without which you are nothing.



    Pray children, pray for Australia, its ground strongly shakes together with Japan.



    Pray, children, pray, the tectonic plates are in constant movement and My children will suffer much because of it, and in quick succession.



    Pray, children, pray for the United States, Chile, Central America, Italy and Spain.



    Pray children, pray, two underwater volcanoes rise above the sea and will shake the nearby islands. My children will experience great pain.



    Do not believe that war is not coming, do not think that My Word is in vain, remain vigilant!

    Man's sin and the denial of sin have awakened the Creation that does not want man to be lost.



    My Angelic Legions stand before you, but you do not perceive them because of not desiring the good and not seeking the good.



    WHAT IS GREATER IN THE HUMAN CREATURE THAN OBEYING ITS FATHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN?



    I bless you with My Love, I bless you with My Mercy.



    COME TO ME, DO NOT TURN AWAY, COME TO ME!



    Your Jesus



    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN
    HAIL MARY MOST PURE, CONCEIVED WITHOUT SIN



    (1) Revelations and prophecies concerning solar radiation: read ...
     
  10. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Peter teaches theology at the University of Paris. I believe he holds a minor degree in theology and a major in music (could be wrong on this, but this is what I recall). I have conversed with him via e-mail and believe him to be a very serious theologian and exercises great care in his research of alleged visionaries, mystics and messengers as witnessed on the MOG forum for anyone who wants to do a search on his past posts here. Peter would be the first to acknowledge that there are plenty of false prophets out there, so don't assume otherwise. When you speak without knowledge of him you are bearing false witness (8th commandment). Stick to the facts and not your personal opinion of anyone. Apparitions, prophecy and other gifts of the Holy Spirit are there to prepare us for events and prepare our souls to withstand them, just as they were during the day's of Noah and the day's of Lot. They, like scripture are telling us what God is doing and will be doing. The fact that you say nothing from God's and his Blessed Mothers current apparitions and messages with help us now? Really, so why does our Blessed Mother and our Lord continue to speak to their children on earth? Or do you know something that scripture and our current times revealed that said all prophecy from God stops in 19--- or 20....? Are you really that naive to think you know what God is doing in the world today in speaking through "his prophets, his messengers" (Amos 3:7). Do you think because Satan has his useful idiots working false messages and false miracles that God is not working his own miracles and prophecy for today? Don't presume to know the mind of God, as he always has and will always be working though his faithful in way's we don't know. If you were a serious person you would lay facts of what Peter has said or believed to substantiate your reviews of him. Anyone can through mud at someone, but it takes someone with facts to persuade them otherwise.
     
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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Would love to hear why you would not have discounted Fatima and Akita prior to their church approval and see if you use the same criteria for those since.
     
  12. Frodo

    Frodo Angels


    I am not slinging mud my friend - I even did provide a link. Plus I was open to being wrong if you could provide proof that Peter B was a theologian. I am still waiting. There is no need to throw accusations of the 8th commandment.

    His major body of work is in music and he does not hold a doctorate degree in Theology. His books speak very highly of the work the pope is doing and his viewpoint is - quite frankly - worrisome.

    http://skeptiko.com/peter-bannister-sees-hope-for-science-religion-dialog/

    "I think we have to bring whatever beliefs we have to the table and hold them lightly. There may be some things that we have to check at the door in order to be able to participate in the dialogue. It’s a mark of the honesty, the intellectual honesty of the participants to say, “Yes, I do come with a belief system but I’m suspicious of any kind of system. I’m open to you to rattle my cage a little bit. I’m not going to say that I have got the truth as something I possess but that it is a goal to which we are all progressing.” And I think that’s a question of the mindset that is actually more important than the content of the dogma in some respects."

    Not exactly the best display of Orthodoxy.o_O:whistle:

    As for prophecy, you get the goal all wrong. It is for conversion, not physical well being.

    For us Catholics we have the Church, devotions, and sacraments. What else do you want? Does God speak to His children? Of course he does. Don't twist my words or accuse me of knowing the mind of God. It is very possible that he continues to send his Mother, but it is for conversions - eternal consequences. Public revelation is finished. Private revelation, authentic anyway, always is geared towards conversion. Bringing it back to the thread's topic, this message quite clearly is not one from Heaven.
     
  13. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    Well, I'm certainly grateful to Frodo for mentioning Peter Bannister's article on the 'Thinking Faith' website at
    http://www.thinkingfaith.org/articles/pope-francis-hermeneutic-conspiracy-and-‘three-f’s’

    The forum certainly lost a great contributor when Peter decided he could no longer participate in a forum that had become so critical of the Pope. Although I could not share his openness to messages which I viewed as false (such as Luz de Maria), his approach was always honest and fair and heavily in favour of giving the benefit of the doubt to the 'prophet' rather than doubter. I certainly think that is the better approach. His generous approach applied equally to critics who criticized his approach and views. His approach is always an intellectual one which is not everyone's cup of tea but I always learned a lot from his contributions.

    As an example of his style, I will copy a couple of paragraphs from the article mentioned above:

    Curiously, in terms of an underlying eschatological framework, Pope Francis and his demonisers would seem to have more in common than it might at first appear. It would seem that it is not only American fundamentalists waiting impatiently for The Pre-Tribulation Rapture who think about the coming of the Son of Perdition; there are, for example, unmistakable apocalyptic overtones in the Pope’s repeated references to and recommendation of Robert Hugh Benson’s dystopian fiction The Lord of the World (1907) centred around the Anti-Christ figure Julian Felsenburgh. Not a few commentators (including John L Allen and the late Cardinal George of Chicago) have moreover intuited a connection between the Pope’s reading of Benson and the urgency with which he has evidently approached a Pontificate coinciding with what he has insisted on several occasions is an incipient Third World War.

    This implicit Papal apocalypticism is an area of investigation at the mention of which some readers may well be shuffling their feet nervously. This is fully understandable, yet the documented evidence of Francis’ statements reminds us that any serious attempt to comprehend the strange phenomenon of Jorge Mario Bergoglio and his often not-so-cultured despisers must be open to the question of the Pope’s repeated references to the ‘Three F’s’: Fatima, Faustina and Felsenburgh. They are invitations to commentators, theologians and all interested parties to widen their horizons; the challenge is to do so with charity, sobriety and without emotional hysteria. Bernard Lonergan’s famous methodological watchword remains as relevant (and unfortunately as little-followed) as ever: ‘be attentive, be intelligent, be reasonable, be responsible’.​
     
  14. Frodo

    Frodo Angels

    I am very happy to help you David. May it serve you better than the last time I "helped" you by providing links of Charlie Johnston.
     
  15. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Peter was really painstaking in his work , very very painstaking in Discernment. Also he had , in my opinion a brilliant mind. It was because of this I originally took the Luz messages so seriously. But reading them now they seem to me to come from man rather than God. I don;t disagree with the content generally. But it is the accent if you like. It reads more like a personal blog than anything else.
    Ps I am not quite sure if Peter left over the Pope Francis buisness.
     
  16. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    And I have to thank you also for the new item from skeptico you have linked to. I have only read a small portion of it so far but it really looks interesting.

    As for Charlie, I never viewed him as a 'prophet' in the style of someone passing on messages from heaven although I was certainly intrigued by the specifics that he was predicting. On the surface, those specifics were mistaken but on a deeper level they were not that far off the mark I think. But I found him to be a good man with a good message that helped us to love God and each other.
     
  17. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    I think we can lay off Peter since most don't really know him and he isn't here to defend himself. He was merely giving his well thought out discernment as he's become somewhat of a lay "specialist" in newer private revelations which are left mostly without persons with such specialized interests. He doesn't represent the Church so he has his own right, re: private revelations, to not test the Spirit by seriously looking at the entire picture, to share his experience....a more personal one at that of this particular seer which I found quite instructive beyond a usual more distant view of one coming out of a different culture and being translated and read in several countries. It's becoming somewhat common these days for those ordered with the duty of studying private revelations, following the proper steps and procedures, to do so in a mostly shallow way, even immediately dissing the true experts in Mariology and Marian apparitions, as recognized by the depth of their serious work, and then just give a rather knee jerk response just to get out of considering anything of the mystical...and yet people will trust such as those cavalier "judges" with their beliefs without any personal questioning. IOW, clericalism. Had plenty of those type "theologians" for professors where one's grades depended upon just how openly sarcastic one could be about Mary or devotions to her...or, in fact openly showing any reverence of any depth for the sacred.

    I find these messages extremely comprehensive for their breadth of understanding of world conditions today that effect the soul and include the responses of the natural/universal order of nature and the cosmos to the overwhelming sin. They give the underlying spiritual reasons for the human madness we are seeing as evil reaches its pinnacle for destruction of everything forcing the now necessary intervention by God Himself. If one is tempted to defend one's point of view via criticism of the messenger then it would seem, in order to stay in line with one's own conscience, he/she ought to avoid any further reading of what appears to them to be dangerous territory! That would call for the putting in action the courage of one's convictions! There is actually a thread for comparison of several various modern day private revelations rather than this one devoted to only one ongoing set of messages presented as they are revealed in the "instant"....ha!
     
  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    David, back when Peter wrote this (almost 2 years ago) many on the forum, including myself were in agreement with Peter. This was written long before the Dubia and long before many other heterodox statements have been made by Pope Francis. It would be interesting to know if he still holds to the same thinking now. It is clear that some of his close friends and theologians back then no longer embrace Francis theology.
     
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  19. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Thought I would share an email sent from Peter earlier this year.

    Montecorvino Rovella, January 30, 2017, 12.35.


    Today, as already occurred on 24 March 2015 (and at other times in the past around Holy Week) the Little Baby [Jesus] lying on a small pillow and kept inside a transparent glass case, wept blood. The miraculous event occurred in the house and the presence of the stigmatic Giulio Massa.
    The Charismatic immediately turned to the Lord with prayers of reparation; in the afternoon, at 18.10, while he was absorbed in prayer, in communion with others, priests and faithful in Italy and in other parts of the world, Giulio had an ecstasy during which he received a message of Jesus that we report as follows:

    My son, men are destroying each other with such violence.
    They strive without a goal, because in touching the darkness [they] remain in spiritual poverty.
    Verily I ask you for a rich spiritual life, and this is achieved through prayer, surrendering and offering [yourselves] to me.
    My Heart knows the needs of every soul and also knows its smallness.
    My Heart feels the warmth and coldness of every heart.
    I wait for you all to place you before my Mercy, my love.
    Do not turn your back on my merciful Heart; I know, I know, I know, today man wants to take my place.
    Today my enemy, increasingly fierce against me and against my children, becomes an evil trinity called power, desecration and pride.
    The powerful of this world have raised so many altars to this idol
    and given plenteous space to it in their lives.
    Gradually three quarters of this world are coming under the dominion of the beast, dominion that men, cruel and without love towards me, have created in order to erase completely the memory of my sacrifice on the cross.
    This generation will see many events move forward; you must stand firm in me, I am really alive in you when you nourish yourselves with my Body, and only by nourishing yourselves with Me will I be really alive in your souls to lead you there where the true world will be reborn, where man will be in the image of the Father.
    Verily, I ask you for nights and days of prayers, in order that dark hearts might change and turn back to me.
    I await the sincere repentance of those peoples who have forgotten, refused me.
    I wait with tears of pain but full of mercy.
    My heart lets itself be moved by the one who has faith,
    and it is I who gives their faith to them with My Word of Truth.
    I will always be with you, now you forever.
    I love you and I bless you in union with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
     
  20. MMM

    MMM Principalities

    I read a lot of alleged messages out of interest but don't really support any of them meaning I don't necessarily believe them authentic. Some occasionally speak to me but even that doesn't mean they are authentic. It really doesn't matter much to me.

    The real problem I have with most messages is they, by nature, tend to lead one to believe that Jesus and/or Mary are speaking to us from "over there", wherever that is. For me, any messages have to lead to or foster an even greater personal relationship with Them. The tendency to wake up and think I better go on line and find out what heaven has to say to us today is a bit of a dangerous routine. At least for me. It also risks focusing on the forecasting of future events too much. It risks placing God away from us, instead of with us. The Jesus and Mary I know are right here, a breath away. It's enough work just to try to follow God's will and be a good Catholic. Trying to follow/discern/worry/care about so many messages coming from so many places doesn't bring me fruit often. There are a number of people in my life struggling badly just to get through this life. Drugs, mental illness, marriage/family break ups, job losses, anger, bitterness...... Most have little or no faith. I think God wants me to help them get to heaven so I can help get myself there too. When I read Jesus or Mary warning of random overt disasters, part of me chuckles because I see direct, real personal disasters happening right now in front of me.

    I enjoy seeing and understanding the big picture. I find Mark Mallett brings the best balance of the bigger picture without losing sight on what our faith really is calling us to do. Mark does reference many private revelations but its to make a greater point so the authenticity of them is secondary.
     

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