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Gog and Magog battle seen by Jewish youth

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by archangel michael, Feb 25, 2016.

  1. archangel michael

    archangel michael Moderator

    Interesting what this young man relates.
    Watch "Rabbi Rami Levy & 15 year Old Natan English Subti…" on YouTube
    Rabbi Rami Levy & 15 year Old Natan English Subti…:
     
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  2. Bernadette

    Bernadette Principalities

    I have watch this a few times and read the transcript. Sad to say I naturally flock to such things because I'm so weary of this world. But he states that Obama is the AC which is in stark contrast to Charlie Johnston's prediction that Obama will convert in the end. Both can't be right (or can they?) Anyway his testimony seems sincere and this was posted back in November I believe. As always, time will tell and we just have to be prepared. I do love how he spoke of his judgement before God. He said the smallest act of kindness is celebrated in Heaven just as the smallest act of sin is shamed. And he stated he was shown everything and he couldn't justify it because it was the truth. I've always imagined that so many people who don't want to believe in God or think God is so merciful he'll forgive me will be in for a big shock when you have to look at every second of your life honestly and can not justify it.

    God Bless!
     
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  3. archangel michael

    archangel michael Moderator

    I am not sure he said Obama was the antichrist. Think he said he was gog. Also, what he relates, his NDE (believe it happened on 9-28-2015)...its almost like he is describing the warning.
    Interesting video nonetheless.
     
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  4. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    I watched and read the transcript. I'd love to just discard it as nonsense, but there's something there from Natan that kept me watching. He's not lying (could be deceived, but he's telling what he saw) and his story jives with some other stories I've read lately from people who claim to have been shown heaven and hell after "dying" and coming back (90 minutes in Heaven for one). And that video is taken just days after his "death". And the death occured for Natan on September 28th, the 4th Blood moon and he says the war started on September 11th or Elul (if you remember Jonathan Cahn's writings) and 9/11/15 is the day Russia entered the Syrian war. He describes a great shaking (Mark Mallett, Charlie) and Obama being buried there (Charlie's prediction of him not finishing his term). There's something there that makes me want to ponder it more then just discard . . .
     
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  5. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers Staff Member

    My question is I wonder why he didn't see Jesus? Maybe he did but did not say. It seemed everyone he saw by name were Jewish rabbis?
     
  6. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers Staff Member

    Me too Tom. It is very similar and yet very different from our Catholic faith. But also similar to it if that makes sense. Need to ponder it more. I need to learn those terms he kept using like the Mashiac?? Probably just spelled it wrong. Reminded me of the great monarch to come.
     
  7. Indy

    Indy Praying


    I would not discount it either. I first saw that video a few months back and I have thought about it a few times since, especially the bits about obama.
     
  8. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    God's ways are not our ways, but it makes sense to me that if this is true then you'd be shown what is familiar to you and to those who you are meant to give witness to upon your return. I think others who have experienced these things before report seeing people and things familiar to them.

    And I recall seeing my mother pass. The look in her eye had a twinkle and wry smile like she was seeing someone very familiar to her :)
     
  9. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Very interesting video. It seems to correspond with much of Catholic prophecy. I have to look up a few Jewish words that I am not familiar with. He claims "the Messiah will be revealed and fight against Obama". Not sure how to interpret this, but surely Obama must represent our armed forces. "He will be killed and buried in the land of Israel, and I saw that". "From the north the misfortune will come" (Alois prohpecies?).
     
  10. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    The boy (Natan), starting from minute 27:55, affirms that the Mashiac (Messiah) is currently alive and in our world, it can't be someone already dead (...Jesus Christ...). He affirms that he has to be already here, and that when he will become the Mashiach, everyone will be surprised. People will exclaim: "Ah! That's the Mashiach". At the minute 35:45, he claims that the Mashiach will fight against Obama (which would be Gog...), killing him and burying him in the Land of Israel.

    This sounds like to be a perfect description of the Antichrist who will deceive many, to me.

    So, this is a failed NDE, in my book.
     
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  11. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    One day, I'll translate my study of the Antichrist according to Our Lady of Anguera into English, and I'll post that in the dedicated Pedro Regis thread. Everything needed to identify the Antichrist for real, will be there, except his name and the year on which he will appear.
     
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  12. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers Staff Member

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    I was thinking that too but could the boy be confused based on his religious beliefs? Could he be seeing the great monarch that rises up? A great living person has been foretold but to a Jew that would appear to be the messiah. I have my doubts trying to fit it in somehow but at the end of the day, if he went to heaven he would have been shown the complete truth and not his perception of truth. That is what keeps swirling around in my head any way.
     
  13. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I too was uncertain about what he was describing at this point. My first thought was that he was referring to the Antichrist, but I am convinced that the AC does not come until after the Warning, as per Catholic prophecy. I followed everything else he described until this point. One other thing he said made me raise an eyebrow, when he said Obama (Gog) would be buried in Jerusalem. I understood that Gog was Russia. Even though he saw these things happen as in a movie, he still has his own mind to process what he saw and obviously this is going to be influenced by what his Jewish faith teaches. Yet, I still think he went through this experience and maybe it is us who do not understand.
     
  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    In a second video I watched of his, he said this "God will stand in a robe covered with the blood stains of Jews". When I first read this I thought he was describing Jesus and his blood stained robe from his passion. But I don't think this is how he or the Jews understood it.
     
  15. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Yeah, some think Gog is Russia (King of the North being Putin) and Obama is King of the South, Magog. That Magog will make a big blunder that will incite Russia for the big war. And it is said that many of the Jewish people will follow the AC as he preaches love and unity for the world, etc., as they are still waiting for their own version of Messiah; and of course the Muslims await their savior, Mahdi, who also will be the (or his henchman) AC. Lately it might be good to keep an eye on the hostilities between Putin and Turkey as there are prophecies re: that big WW beginning there.
     
  16. Pijon

    Pijon Principalities

    The answer might be simpler than it looks:
    - The boy has never had any NDE.
    - The boy has been deceived.

    There could be only one Truth.

    John 14,5-6:

    5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; how know we the way?

    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    So I find hard to believe that in Heaven you're going to read Torah, or that you'll be judged by some rabbis, or that the Messiah has yet to come. All of this and more has been claimed by the boy in his alleged NDE.

    Again, there could be only one Truth.

    If in the future someone will shown himself as the saviour of humanity, with a solution for every problem, self-proclaiming himself as the Messiah, be sure, stay sure, that you'll have just met the Antichrist.

    An interesting note, is that in every authentic message I've ever read during these last years, I've never read any message stating that Jews will be persecuted by the Antichrist. Christians will be the ones who will be persecuted.
     
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  17. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    In that context, do you recall whoever it was that triangulated the date of the antichrist revealing himself to 6-6-16? I can't remember exactly, but thought it was somehow astronomically related.
     
  18. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Numbers do have meanings...not sure it will be so obvious. But i do think something bad will begin or reach a high point.

    :(
     
  19. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    I believe everything he says except the Obama part. But he did go to heaven and he did see his life flash in front of his eyes. The interesting part is even the smallest sin or the smallest act of kindness is known to all. And he speaks about a judgement with a spirit reprimanding all the bad he did. This all fits with our beliefs. Even the lower room with the torah makes sense...after that he says there are higher levels for those that repent. As for the whole world attacking Israel... that seems theologically correct.

    That boy did have out of body experience...very interesting.

    May Gods Will be Done
     
  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I don't recall hearing of this date.
     

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