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God’s love is shown in his forgiveness of our sins

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by davidtlig, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    Pope Francis: God’s love is shown in his forgiveness of our sins


    By Hannah Brockhaus

    Vatican City, Sep 17, 2017 / 09:30 am (CNA/EWTN News).- On Sunday Pope Francis spoke about the limitless love of God, and how it leads him to forgive us time and time again; something we must strive to do for others, no matter how many times they’ve sinned against us.

    “The forgiveness of God is a sign of his overwhelming love for each of us; it is the love that leaves us free to move away, like the prodigal son, but that awaits our return every day; it is the enterprising love of the shepherd for the lost sheep; it is the tenderness that welcomes every sinner who knocks at his door.”

    “Heavenly Father, our father, is full and full of love and wants to offer it to us, but he cannot do it if we close our hearts to love for others,” the Pope said Sept. 17.

    Continuing, Francis pointed out how Jesus teaches us this in the Our Father, when he directly links the forgiveness we ask of God with the forgiveness we give to our brothers and sisters in the words: “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.”

    In his Angelus address Sunday Pope Francis reflected on the day's Gospel reading from Matthew, where St. Peter asks Christ: "Lord, if my brother sins against me, how often must I forgive? As many as seven times?"

    To Peter, seven already seems like the maximum amount of times we should forgive the same person, Francis said. And maybe to us it seems like twice is already a lot.

    But Christ's response is that we must forgive seven times seventy times, “that is to say always. You always have to forgive,” he said. Christ confirms this by telling a parable, the Pope continued, a parable which shows "the inconsistency of the one who was forgiven before and then refuses to forgive."

    The king in the parable is a generous man who when his servant begs for forgiveness of a large debt he has compassion on him and forgives him.

    The servant on the other hand refuses to forgive a much smaller debt of a fellow servant and "behaves in a ruthless way," having him thrown in prison.

    "The incoherent attitude of this servant is also ours when we refuse forgiveness to our brothers," the Pope said. "While the king of the parable is the image of God who loves us with a love so abundant of mercy from embracing us, loving us and forgiving us continually."

    “Since our Baptism God has forgiven us, remitting an insoluble debt: original sin. But that's the first time. Then, with unlimited mercy, He forgives us all the faults as soon as we show even a little sign of repentance," the Pope said. "God is so merciful."

    When we are tempted to behave as the servant did toward his fellow servant, closing off our hearts to those who have offended us and come to apologize, we must remember the words of the Heavenly Father, he stated.

    He told the ruthless servant: "I forgave you your entire debt because you begged me to. Should you not have had pity on your fellow servant, as I had pity on you?"

    "Anyone who has experienced the joy, peace, and inner freedom that comes from being forgiven can open themselves to the possibility of forgiving in turn," he noted.

    Concluding, Francis turned to the Blessed Virgin Mary, who he said "helps us to be more and more aware of the gratuitousness and greatness of the forgiveness received from God."

    May she help us to become as "merciful as He is, the good Father: slow to anger and great in love."

  2. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I am still waiting for Pope Francis to talk on repentance of sin and and doing penance for the forgiveness of sin. Forgiveness comes with repentance.
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  3. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    Pope: Self-righteous rebels are doomed, repentant sinners are saved
    Dec 16, 2014
    by Carol Glatz, Catholic News Service

    "When we see a holy people of God that is humble, whose wealth is in its faith in the Lord, in its trust in the Lord," he said, "they are the ones who are saved."

    The Gospel account of the two sons, he said, can be seen today with Christians who declare that they are "pure" just because they go to Mass and receive Communion.

    But God wants something more, the pope said. He wants them to honestly open their hearts and courageously lay bare all of their sins.

    Even people who generously give their lives in service to others, who work with the poor, help the church, there is still something missing that God wants: a list of their sins, the pope said.

    "When we are able to tell the Lord, 'Lord these are my sins, not the sins of that one or the other, these are mine. They are mine. You take them and that way I will be saved' -- when we are able to do this we will be that beautiful people, a humble and lowly people, who trust in the Lord," the pope said.

    Among those invited to attend the morning Mass were the three women religious from the United States who were in Rome for the presentation of a final report ending a Vatican-ordered investigation of U.S. communities of women religious.

    Mother Mary Clare Millea, superior general of the Apostles of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the apostolic visitor appointed by the Vatican, told reporters during a news conference about the report that the pope's morning homily was "an awesome experience."

    She said the pope's final comments about Jesus asking everyone to "give me your sins; I was very struck by that because we all have our shortcomings, all of our congregations, we've all come up short on many aspects in living our fidelity, and I thought that was a beautiful message to all of us."

    The Vatican's final report calling on the women to discern how best to live the Gospel in fidelity to their orders' founding ideals was "very pastoral," she said.

    "It challenges each of us, every one of our congregations, to turn all of that over to Jesus so that he can work great things through us, and I think that was the message I received from the Holy Father this morning," she said.

  4. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Christians who declare that they are "pure" just because they go to Mass and receive Communion

    Who are these Christians?
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  5. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    Men and women of straw?
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  6. Mario

    Mario Powers


    I doubt Pope Francis was speaking of any particular group. But I do think you and I have had a similar experience.

    I usually sit in a pew closer to the sanctuary. There are times when I pray my prayers of thanksgiving with an inward gaze. Other times I'll pray them and then intercede for those going up in the communion line. Though I'm not out to judge, there are some who go up to receive who are distracted, unrecollected, fidgety, and/or appear oblivious to the enormous Gift they are about to receive. Some of these might not have gone to Confession in years, but they believe that by attending Holy Mass and receiving Our Lord in Holy Communion, they are doing just fine.

    I would think our Pope might have been referring to such brothers and sisters.

    Safe in the Flames of the Sacred Heart!
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  7. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    Figments of the Pope's imagination in his attempts to separate the inseparable - God's justice and mercy.

    Imagine the superior general of a religious order being "awe inspired" by a homily telling her to take her sins to Confession. It has taken her until now and a trip to the Vatican to learn what we all were taught at age 7 when we made our First Confession. Says it all, really, about the state of religious orders. Rather discouraging if she's the best they have.
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  8. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    I would like to think that Mario.
    But I honestly do not.

    Is this true ...“Since our Baptism God has forgiven us, remitting an insoluble debt: original sin. But that's the first time. Then, with unlimited mercy, He forgives us all the faults as soon as we show even a little sign of repentance," the Pope said. "God is so merciful." PF
  9. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The Pope is really out of touch with reality.

    The pews are nearly empty. Inner city Dublin less than 3% attend weekly Mass in some working class areas to give you an example. Where the church attendance is greater it is the OAP club with very few teenagers or young people. Very few.

    Confessions are ignored. The sacrament is in terminal decline.

    An ageing priesthood & declining vocations means that a priest will soon be as scarce as hen's teeth.

    People really only use the church now for hatches, matches and dispatches! A nice convenient social gathering.

    How can the church be a field hospital with so few doctors?

    There are no patients coming into the field hospital as far as I see.

    One does not have to be a genius to work out that there is a rot and decline in the church unlike any other in history.
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2017
  10. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    Apart from your first sentence, I agree with all you say. However, the responses above illustrate just who is out of touch with reality and it is certainly not the Pope.

    But the Lord is already coming to our aid and that action of the Holy Spirit will increase. The Church will be renewed in our lifetime.

    Last edited: Sep 19, 2017
  11. gracia

    gracia Angels

    I see a dangerous hint of Protestant theology here. Protestantism essentially teaches that we must and should "continually bring our sins to the foot of the Cross". Missing is an urgency to stop those sins, lest you wind up in Hell. Missing is a plea to be Holy, that we might be saved.
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  12. Seems to me that many current problems affecting the church are due to the alleged resignation of Pope Benedict xvi and the appalling outcome.
    My own personal conviction is that due to the utter confusion still surrounding this event, a confusion magnified by archbishop Gansweins public comments on an expanded Petrine ministry and the comment that Benedict had not abandoned the papacy, a very very serious problem now surrounds the Roman Catholic papacy.
    My conviction makes me seriously doubt the validity of the 2013 papal conclave.
    The doubt is further reinforced by the credible reports concerning violations of the Apostolic constitution governing papal elections.
    Further doubts are raised by the manifest frequent heterodox conduct , statements and writings of the candidate elected at the 2013 papal conclave.

    In view of these doubts my only recourse is to take the safe option which for me is to continue regard Pope Benedict xvi as the legitimate Bishop of Rome.
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