Discussion in 'Books, movies, links, websites.' started by padraig, Dec 29, 2017.
A wonderful Japanese film called,
'After the Rains',
which I dedicate to a Master,
I apologize if I offended anyone, I should not have taken such a tact with men having dominion and responsibility etc. It is clearly the responsibility of both women and men. With many women having the gift of intuition about such things.
Today people who believe in spirits as such we simply call them superstitious. Most people today are not even aware of the plethora of symbolism surrounding them when they take a trip to the store or watch their favorite program on TV. I know here in America at least it seems to be all over the place.
In fact, this topic is a rabbit hole of sorts. It can spawn an unhealthy interest in things of this nature which can certainly be bad news.
Is maybe being a little uneasy at times being such a bad thing Don? Are we meant never to be uneasy?
The devil exists. Evil exists.
Consider St Peter.
Would this not make me......
That may well be, Padraig, and I'm not implying that Fr. Ripperger is untrustworthy. I think it would be prudent for anyone thinking of buying or reading the book to take note of the reviews I quoted, especially the comment responding to the second review. Books are shared and if there are prayers in the book which would be better reserved for clergy or at least someone well grounded in the faith, the book could be harmful to some.
I had never heard of generational spirits before joining this forum. Should I ever come across a priest who specialises in these deliverance prayers, I may well avail of his services. Meanwhile, I prefer to stick to the tried and tested prayers, sacraments and Mass especially for my deceased relatives. That's just my preference because I would be terrified of opening a door to something which had been hovering around seeking a way in.
'I had never heard of generational spirits before joining this forum'
You may very well have a very good point here Dolores, I will take this away in prayer.
My first thoughts turn to this curious Scripture:
The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.'
Now how come the punishment travels from generation to generation?
What is the generational agent for this?
'yet He does not leave the guiilty unpunished'
How does this come about? How does He , 'Punish', people, several generations down?
Your thoughts; inasmuch as this idea appears not at asll purely original to the good Father; as to yourself?
Not so original as it is contained in Scripture?
Of course this subject matter will make People uneasy
Of course it will.
Christ was sent to comfort the afflicted
and to disturb the easy.
This is a subject matter which really disturbs
I agree with you Padraig
But like Dolours, I would go to a priest expert if I needed help in that area
I have neighbors who are into the demonic and I can feel that evil when I drive past their house
I definitely do not feel I am capable of engaging in spiritual warfare
Jesus drove out demons
He said some of them could only be driven out by prayer and fasting
In the Mystical Body of Christ there are many members
Some have the gift of exorcism
I don’t believe most lay people do
I try to keep my practice of the Faith very simple
The way I learned things when I was young
I have shared this experience several times. It comes from a thread entitled, The Question of Generational Sins, from 2015.
Thank you for bringing up this topic. My family has experienced some marvelous healings by means of a Holy Mass celebrated in our home specifically for the healing of our family tree. It was offered by a very holy Franciscan named Regis Rodda back in the 1990s before we moved north to Pulaski.
There is a passage in Exodus that speaks of sins impacting families down to the third and fourth generations, though I can't remember where right now. There are a couple of good books on the subject, but here is our story. Our firstborn son, Benjamin, exhibited great anger at a young age that was disproportionate to the situations in which it surfaced. There was a time when he even picked up a chair and briefly threatened my wife when he was only four. This pattern had been surfacing on my paternal side for several generations. In fact, we had a nickname for it: the O'Loughlin Rage.
We examined several psychological reasons for this, but found none. Other than the anger, Ben appeared very well adjusted. When I brought this up to Fr. Regis, he encouraged us to celebrate a healing Mass in our home. He had us construct a family tree and list any disruptive behaviors or patterns. We came up with three: anger, alcoholism, and the fear of water. The individuals affected were referenced by name during the Eucharist.
In regard to Benjamin, the healing which the Lord accomplished through that Mass was phenomenal! His explosive anger has never been seen from that day forward. In addition, I experienced an unusual vision at the end of the Mass. I saw my paternal grandmother, Marguerite Moran, smiling at me. In all the pictures of my grandmother and in my childhood memories, I never witnessed her smiling! There were a couple of other wonderful consequences, but Ben's healing was the most dramatic. Alleluia!
Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
I have chills
Holy Ghost chills
Thanks for reposting
Maybe such instant cure all priest who believes in such things will not come at toss of the hat?
In my experience they are very, very, very rare.
In the mean time?
Of course if there were such priests freely available fine. Wonderful.
But there aren't.
They either don't believe in it, or haven't a clue what to do with it when they very vaguely think it may be true.
Let's be honest
I am fond of priests , I love them, but I very, very, very rarely come across a priest, or a human being who knows how to stare in the face of pure, pure evil and to stare that evil down.
It's not a simple matter of sprinkling holy water in their direction.
If only it were that simple.. if only...like grabbing a priest WERE like grabbing A Mc Donald...
FOR GOODNESS SAKE TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRIEST YOU MIGHT BE GRABBING....
,,,and you think something might be automatic?
I mean really?
I don’t wish to engage argumentatively
I have too much respect for you for that
It certainly will. In fact, it will most assuredly magnify ones fear of the Lord to even glimpse such things. The beginnings of wisdom.
I have lately been drawn back over and over to the consideration that if we could see the symbolism exhibited specifically to us mocking us and reveling in it each and every day it would change things a great deal. People would then truly see the great evil which seeks to devour us and rules this world. So many are asleep.
However, it is only God who can give us eyes to see and and ears to hear granting us the wisdom to understand. I take comfort in this and pray that we all have eyes to see and ears to hear if it pleases God.
17 For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light. 18 So take care how you listen; for whoever has, to him more shall be given; and whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has shall be taken away from him.”
I certainly don't know how God punishes people down to the fourth generation. The only possible example I can think of for the Church regarding some sin as a possible generational character flaw or a weakness to particular types of temptation is an old rule about illegitimate children being barred from the priesthood. I stress that I'm clutching at straws here and could well be wrong about that rule which might never have existed outside my imagination.
That I had never heard of generational spirits is simply my own ignorance. I'm not denying their existence. If this were something that the Church considered the laity competent to deal with I'm surprised that so few Catholics (at least of my acquaintance) are aware of it.
I agree with you that priests trained in this kind of ministry are probably thin on the ground and for anyone seeking such a priest finding one via an internet search would likely be quicker and easier than a phone call to diocesan HQ. Nonetheless, I would still prefer to leave it to an expert rather than taking the DIY route.
Padre Pio said in one of his letters to one of his spiritual daughters something along the lines.....
“ the devil is like a vicious growling dog but he is on a leash, pay him no mind! And do not worry, he cannot get to you, if you are outside the extent of his leash!
Sin is the only way that he can get hold of you and if he has got hold of you, he will be very quite!"
Great video, thank you God for the eyes to see!
Thank you Don , I will watch this later as I get up the courage and stamina to start the papering again!!
Yes, well it is up to God how loose or close that leash may be. A good for instance is the case of Jesus Himself at His Passion and Death were Satan is omnipresent. As indeed we see throughout His entire Life. In fact it was Satan who was the main agent in bringing about His Death by , 'Entering into', Judas at the Last Supper.
Here are some saint were Satan appears to have had a good amount off freedom to slip the leash a good deal.
Vexed and possessed: 7 saints who battled Satanic attacks
Gelsomino Del Guercio | Aug 04, 2017
From Mary Magdalene de Pazzi's suicide attempts, to Egidius’s pact: This is how the devil assaulted their bodies and surroundings.
This is the realm of spirituality: the territory of mystics. Here, the border between what actually happens outside the body and what is perceived as reality is hard to verify. But history relates many cases in which a saint or a blessed has been forced to confront the devil, and has suffered physical torture. Sometimes, Satan has possessed their body; other times, he has vexed or obsessed them.
In his book Santi indemoniati (Possessed Saints), author Marco Tosatti lists numerous such cases. As the book is not available yet in English, Aleteia has picked seven to share here.
1) JUAN DEL CASTILLO’S BLASPHEMY
Fr. Juan del Castillo, a 16th century Jesuit, blasphemed—against his own will—because he was obsessed by the devil. “The devil,” writes fellow Jesuit, Fr. Auguste Poulain, “also used the hands of that holy religious to strike or burn images of the Blessed Virgin.”
2) MARY MAGDALENE DE PAZZI’S KNIFE
Many saints and beati, afflicted by the devil, have been tempted to commit suicide. Mary Magdalene de Pazzi, who lived in the second half of the 16th century and was known for her ecstasies, left the choir on the night of the feast of St. Andrew (November 30), and ran into the kitchen to grab a knife and try to kill herself. On another occasion, fearing she might once again yield to that impulse, she had herself tied up.
3) EGIDIUS OF PORTUGAL’S BLOOD PACT
Blessed Egidius of Portugal, who loved science and necromancy, made a pact with the devil during one of his voyages. “He renounced his faith with an abominable oath, and he sold his soul with a pact written with his own hand, and signed with his blood,” wrote his biographer, Dominican friar André de Resende.
One day, a ghost appeared to him in the form of a knight in armor who commanded him to change his life. Egidius, terrified, asked the Lord for forgiveness, and from then on, he embarked on a spiritual journey that led him to become a friar.
For seven years this beato, who lived in the 13th century, was tormented by demons who reminded him of his past and of the pact he had signed and not fulfilled. One day, at last, through the intercession of the Virgin Mary, the pact was dissolved, and the demons left Egidius in peace forever.
4) COLETTE OF CORBIE’S VEXATIONS
Diabolic vexations infested the life of St. Colette of Corbie, who was born in 1380. She, the great reformer of the Poor Clares, was the hostage of demons who used natural means to disturb her throughout her mystical relationship with God.
Pierre de Valles, the holy woman’s confessor, recounts: “She felt an instinctive revulsion towards ants. At the convent of Besancon, the demons persecuted her, often filling the places she frequented and the things she liked, such as the oratory and her books, with those bothersome little insects. Thousands of these bugs would gather, and would then disappear with the same speed with which they had appeared.”
In Languedoc, these persecutions took the form of flies. In Picardy, her bed and oratory were invaded by snails, turtles, and other reptiles. Among these persecutions, the most intense lasted for the seven years leading up to her death. When she prayed, demons appeared to her under the appearance of flies, leopards, lions, and other beasts of every kind. Many of her sisters in religion also saw those figures.
5) NICHOLAS OF TOLENTINO’S BEATING
St. Nicholas of Tolentino, of the Hermits of Saint Augustine, was the worker of many miracles—30 of which were judged authentic by the commission that investigated his cause of beatification. Not even he was free of remarkable annoyances of demonic origin. One evening, while at prayer in his oratory, he saw the devil blow out the lamp, throw it to the ground, and smash it.
His contemporary and biographer, Friar Peter of Monte Rubiano, recounts these vexations. He tells how the evil spirit set up residence on the roof of Saint Nicholas’ oratory, imitating the cries of various wild beasts, and turning over the tiles on the roof as if wanting to turn the entire thing upside-down.
Seeing that the saint continued to pray, the demon beat him fiercely, to the point where the bruises were visible all over his body for days. Once, the demon who tormented him declared, “I am Belial, and I have been sent to you as a prod for your holiness.” St. Nicholas, who died in 1305, was canonized in 1446.
6) SAINT ALPHONSUS RODRIGUEZ
St. Alphonsus Rodriguez is the patron saint of porters and ushers. After having received great blessings, he was attacked, both by violent temptations and by physical assaults, starting around the age of 50 and continuing for seven years. “At times,” writes Alban Butler, his biographer, “he was so oppressed, and pursued so closely, that it was impossible to describe his suffering.” Sometimes, he heard infernal conversations, and witnessed demons blaspheming against God. Other times, he was at the point of dying from suffocation, because the evil spirits were squeezing his throat.
Generally, these events started at midnight, while he was asleep. St. Alphonsus would be awakened by the great din. Then, the demons would begin to dance around him, jump on top of him, and grab him by the arm to try to force him to do evil, without him being able to get rid of them. Those were years of great suffering.
7) SAINT IGNATIUS’ STRANGULATION
St. Ignatius of Loyola also had to fight against Satan. Paul Verdun writes, “Giampaolo was Saint Ignatius’ roommate for many years. Once, while sleeping one night in a bed near the saint’s, he was woken up by the sound of blows, and of cries from the founder of the Company of Jesus. He arose, and asked his roommate what was happening. But St. Ignatius, without speaking, ordered him to go back to bed and sleep. The spirit of darkness had tried, on that occasion, to strangle the saint, who was left voiceless for many days.”
Attacks by the demons -Was St Gemma ever possessed?
Was Saint Gemma ever possessed?
We know without a doubt that throughout the last few years of her life, Gemma was fiercely attacked by the devil and the demons. In the final days and weeks of her life she repeatedly requested an exorcism, and it was repeatedly denied her. So, it is a question that has been asked on many occasions: 'Was St Gemma ever possessed by the demons at one time or another?'
Soon after her mystical life began (especially after her miraculous cure and the gift of the stigmata) the Devil, having exhausted all the ordinary means by which he strives to draw and tempt souls away from God, soon came to the attack Gemma in person, and Gemma was called upon to face all the unmasked malignity of the adversary, and face it alone. By the express permission of God, he was allowed to torment her with terrible physical suffering, agonizing headaches which made it almost impossible to pray. "What a torment it is not to be able to pray! What fatigue it costs me. What efforts that wretch makes so that I may be incapable of prayer. Last evening he tried to kill me, and would have done so if Jesus had not come to my aid. I was terrified, but kept the image of Jesus in my mind, although I could not utter His name."
Then the Devil would change his tactics and say: "How stupid you are to think of praying to a criminal. Look at the harm He does you, keeping you nailed to the Cross with Himself. How can you care for one whom you do not even know-who makes all suffer who love Him? "
The Prince of darkness
In a letter to Mgr. Volpi, Gemma writes: "I must I tell you what happened last night. I never went to bed, because the Devil frightened me with his blasphemies, and I thought he was in the room; I could neither sleep nor pray. I did not make my meditation, nor pray from 11am to 12:00. I went to church, but when the time came I felt I could not go to Holy Communion. I came out of the church and I heard the Devil laughing very loudly. I under¬stood why, went back to church again and received Holy Communion. Jesus told me had I not conquered that morning I should never have done so...Yesterday morning my aunt asked me to draw a bucket of water; I filled it and bringing it back had to pass before the picture of the Sacred Heart. I saluted Jesus with these words: ' Jesus, make haste, give me the grace to be ever united with You, in such a way that I may never be separated from You!' Just after I had said this I felt a series of sharp blows on my shoulder, so that I fell to the ground, but without breaking anything."
While writing to Father Germano the Devil snatched the pen from her hand, tore up the paper, dragged her from the table, and tore the hair from her head. Finally, as he left her, he cried: "War, war against your father, war as long as he lives! " "And," adds Father Germano, "the fiend has known right well how to keep his word."
"Believe me," wrote Gemma, "to hear this despicable wretch one would think that his fury was rather against you [Fr. Germano] than against me."
But the Devil tried another way, that of destroying her confidence in God, assuring her that she would infallibly be damned and that her soul belonged to him. "Do you not see," said he, "that this Jesus does not hear you, and wants to have no more to do with you. Give up, and be resigned to your unhappy lot." This is one of the Devil's most subtle temptations, one which has caused agonies to many holy souls, and Gemma experienced it to the full.
He appeared to her in all sorts of horrible forms, sometimes as a ferocious dog, at others as some hideous monster or as a giant infuriated with rage. First he would threaten, then fall upon her, beat her, drag her by the hair and torture her in every conceivable way. "Yesterday evening as usual I passed a very bad night. The Devil came before me in the form of a gigantic man, very big and very tall, who kept on beating me all night and repeating: 'For you there is no hope of salvation. You belong to me.' I answered: 'God was very merciful and therefore I feared nothing.' At this he was so enraged that he struck me a sharp blow on the head, exclaiming: 'May you be cursed,' and then he disappeared.
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