Mary Ann, I will look those up when I get home and get back to you. I had lunch and dinner with my Bishop, Vicar General and chancellor today along with 5 other new employees of the diocese. It was a wonderful day! I honestly never had one seconds thought about Francis being a false pope or this Synod. The chips are gonna fall where they fall. My faith is in Christ. He is in charge of the Pope, not me. I will follow the pope until either of us die. If I follow him and he is false, then I will have won. If I follow him and he is true, I will have won. He is true. Ivan said he was true when I had lunch with him in Missouri. OUR LADY SAID THIS WAS HER POPE. SHE SAID HE WAS A GOOD POPE!! I know this not just because of Ivan, but because I have read Fr. Gobbi's book front to back and back to front and about 2000 other messages. Those that are true and approved by good solid bishops have never said one thing about a false pope. Poor St. Malachy is rolling in his grave being blamed for all this and he never said anything about a false pope either!! He gave us the GOOD NEW! That a pope would be another Peter--getting us through the tribulation. Remember everyone--we are neither CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL---WE ARE CATHOLIC. That sets us aside and gives us a great responsibility.