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Evil Empire or Russia Consecrated?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Richard67, Nov 18, 2014.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Obama instigated a revolution against the legitimate government of the Ukraine, thus provoking Putin. This is not enabling him. Additionally, Putin's intervention saved the Christians of Syria from slaughter by ISIS, although Obama is still doing his best to support the latter, whom he played the major part in creating. Regardless, Obama, in common with his three presidential predecessors, is a far more dangerous leader than Putin, as far as the rest of the world is concerned.
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  2. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Yes, the world as we see is actually quaking at the presence of or declarations by Mr. Obama (or any of the West for that matter).....and we also witness the real world "fear" of the impotent approach of any of our worn out military presence....on land or sea. Boo! Scared ya!
  3. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Just because you have rendered yourself unable to win a war of note since 1945 does not mean you are unable to cause catastrophe. I'm sure many in Iraq, Syria and Libya, for example, would not appreciate your little joke. The neo-con axis of evil which has caused so much chaos throughout the world since the end of the Reagan presidency is beginning to precipitate out, for all to see. George H.W. Bush has just announced his support for Hillary R. Clinton. The war-mongers are all in this together.
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  4. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    The deplorable situations of the moment (of which I speak) are not a joke!! It's the appeasers of the continuing hedgemony who make the dead into a joke. And all of the players of current massive power and the seeming willingness to use it ARE NOT afraid of the West. It has been tested and not only given every signal for the thugs of the world to proceed, but to hand over to such every means to continue and further develop their methods of massive terror, which today being more in the hands of socio and psychopaths has developed a NWO that seems to consist of actual populations that are suicidal as a whole already.....who, after being terrorized at a time when they could stop it within borders, continue to invite more horror into already victimized neighborhoods. And those dictators of old, being the only kind of gov. they feel comfortable in, are absolutely willing to stir up more chaos for their own grand purposes....and these days, such willingness makes their work easy. Obama gladly assists. The sad "joke" are those who think his little talk and actions weren't planned ahead in order to give the needed rationale for the moves of the more powerful. And his own personal history is the only evidence necessary to know just which side he's been promoting.....that is, if one's own eyes don't convince of the same.
  5. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    All of this being said is true, but the grand architect behind it all is Satan and all of his minions who have been loosed from hell because of the worlds leaders have all sold their soul to him. What is taking place is diabolical in nature. It is not a few rotten leaders causing a rukas, but humans letting the devils that should never have been loosed from hell corrupt mankind because of its sinful state of being.
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  6. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    And who but Russia is budding up with the communist Chinese in the China Sea preparing for, what else but war? Do you feel this is coincidence as well? If you look at who your friends are you will know where you stand. While Obama is just plain messed up in the head, Putin knows exactly who he is in bed with.
  7. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    By accident, do you mean Russia flying their fighter jet 10' above a US naval ship in neutral waters? Reagan would have shot that plane right out of the sky. Putin knows Obama is chicken little.
  8. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Obama is no chicken. He's bold enough to launch Islamic proxy war against Libya, Egypt and Syria. He's bold enough to launch a violent coup against the duly elected leader of Ukraine and risk a hot war with Russia in the process. Chickens don't behave like that. A Beast behaves like that.

    As for Russian planes buzzing U.S. planes and ships, you are not putting it into the proper context. The proper context is that those U.S. spy planes and destroyers are operating off Russia's territory in a provocative manner with transponders turned off. That be like Putin sending Russian spy planes into the Gulf of Mexico on a regular basis. Of course Russia will respond. The United States has no business getting involved in Putin's backyard and if they do wish to poke Putin in the eye then they should be prepared to deal with the consequences like adults and stop crying and whining when the Russians give them a taste of their own medicine.
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  9. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    The Bushes finally show their true colors. As if we didn't already know.
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  10. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    The West is in the business of demonizing and terrorizing those who stand in their way. They have projected all their sins onto Putin and Assad. Classic case of psychological projection. Something tells me that this election will be the last chance we have to rectify the situation, because if the Neocon warmonger Hillary Clinton wins then I woudl expect God's Justice to come quickly; God will not be mocked forever and the blood of the Syrian martyrs cries to Heaven for Justice.
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  11. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    Yes, and as Fr. Amorth said about Hitler and Stalin (the Nazis et al).....they were possessed but were personally responsible for the decisions that they made as they followed the promptings of the devil.
  12. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

  13. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Official confirmation: Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and America are supplying Jabhat Al-Nusra with weapons, including TOW anti-tank guided missiles

    US weapons are being delivered to Jabhat Al-Nusra by governments that Washington supports, a militant commander told the German media, adding that American instructors were in Syria to teach how to use the new equipment.

    “Yes, the US supports the opposition [in Syria], but not directly. They support the countries that support us. But we are not yet satisfied with this support,” Jabhat al-Nusra unit commander Abu Al Ezz said in an interview with Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger newspaper from the devastated Syrian city of Aleppo.


    According to the commander, the militants should be receiving more “sophisticated weapons”from their backers to succeed against the Syrian government.

    The fight is difficult. The regime is strong and gets support from Russia,” he explained.

    Al Ezz said that Jabhat Al-Nusra “won battles thanks to TOW rockets. Due to these rockets, we reached a balance with the regime. Our tanks came from Libya via Turkey, joined by the [BM-21] multiple rocket launchers,” he said.

    The government forces have an advantage because of aircraft and missile launchers, but “we have the American-made TOW missiles, and the situation in some areas is under control,” Al Ezz added.

    When asked if the TOW missiles were initially intended for Jabhat Al-Nusra or if the group obtained them from the moderate Free Syrian Army, the jihadist clarified: “No, the missiles were given to us directly.”

    He also said that when Jabhat Al-Nusra was “besieged, we had officers from Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel and America here… Experts in the use of satellites, rockets, reconnaissance and thermal security cameras.”

    The journalist asked specifically if the US instructors were really present among the jihadists’ ranks and Al Ezz replied: “The Americans are on our side.”

    He also said that Jabhat Al-Nusra has been paid for achieving specific military goals during the Syrian conflict.

    “We got 500 million Syrian pounds (around $2.3 million) from Saudi Arabia. To capture the Infantry School in Al Muslimiya years ago we received 1.5 million Kuwaiti dinars (around $500,000) and Saudi Arabia's $5 million,” Al Ezz said.

    The money came from the “governments” of those states, not private individuals, he said.

    “Israel is now giving us support because Israel is at war with Syria and with Hezbollah,” Al Ezz said.

    The West also “paved the way” for jihadists coming to Syria, saying that “we have many fighters from Germany, France, Britain, America, from all the Western countries,” the commander said.

    ‘Al-Nusra using ceasefire to regroup, prepare for new attacks’

    In the interview, he confirmed claims made by Moscow and the Syrian government that the militants were using the Syrian ceasefire, agreed by Russia and US on September 9, to prepare for a new offensive.

    “We do not recognize the ceasefire. We will regroup our groups. We will carry out the next overwhelming attack against the regime in a few days. We have regrouped our forces in all provinces, including Homs, Aleppo, Idlib and Hama,” Al Ezz said.

    He said that Jabhat Al-Nusa would not let trucks with humanitarian aid enter Aleppo “as long as the regime [forces] are along the Castello Road, in Al Malah and in the northern regions.”

    “The regime must withdraw from all the territories, and we will let the trucks in. If a truck is going in anyway, we will detain the driver,” he said.

    The idea of a transitional government in Syria is also not supported by Jabhat Al-Nusra, the commander said.

    “We accept no one from the Assad regime or of the Free Syrian Army, which is described as moderate. Our goal is to overthrow the regime, and establish an Islamic state in accordance with the Islamic Sharia,” he said.

    As for the people who represent the Syrian opposition at the Geneva talks, Al Ezz said that “these people are weak, they’ve got a lot of money. They’ve sold themselves.”

    “There are mercenaries in Syria, Alloush fights with Al Nusra-Front,” he said talking about Mohammed Alloush, a leader in the Jaysh al-Islam group, part of the Syrian opposition’s High Negotiations Committee (HNC) in the peace talks. “The group that was housed in Turkey and which was turned into the Free Syrian Army, used to be part of Al Nusra-Front.”

    The commander openly confirmed that Jabhat Al-Nusra “are part of Al Qaeda,” the terrorist network responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

    “Actually, we were inside one group together with the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL). But the Islamic State has been used in accordance with the interests and political purposes of the big powers like America, and the group has drifted away from our principles. Most of the IS leaders are working with intelligence services, and it’s now clear for us. We, the Jabhat Al-Nusra, have our own way,” Al Ezz said.

    The interview with Jabhat al-Nusra’s commander was taken at a stone quarry in Aleppo on September 17 by Koelner Stadt-Anzeiger journalist Jurgen Todenhofer on his seventh trip to war-torn Syria.

  14. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    No surprises there. All doubt should have been removed when the US coalition broke the ceasefire by attacking the Syrian soldiers fighting ISIS. How many children have to die and how many families displaced before there's an end to this slaughter? Yet more sins crying out to Heaven for vengeance.
  15. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Patriarch Kirill signs public petition for anti-abortion law

    MOSCOW, September 27 /TASS/. Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill on Tuesday signed an open public petition for adoption of an anti-abortion law in Russia, the Moscow Patriarchy reported on its website.

    Also on Tuesday, Patriarch Kirill met the participants in the all-Russian public movements "For Life" and "Orthodox Volunteers" who are collecting signatures under a public petition for banning abortions in Russia. "The head of the Russian Orthodox Church put his signature under the document," the Moscow Patriarchy said.

    The text of the petition has been discussed and agreed with the Patriarchal Commission for Family Matters and the Protection of Motherhood and Childhood. Its authors stand against abortions, which they describe as a legal murder of unborn children. They demand amendments to the legislation and recognition of a conceived embryo to be a human creature whose life, health and well-being should be protected by law.

    The petition’s authors come categorically against any surgical or medical-induced termination of pregnancy. They call for banning contraceptives with an abortive effect and auxiliary reproduction technologies, which humiliate human dignity and kill children in the initial stage of embryonic development. They believe that pregnant women and families with children should receive material aid, the size of which should not be below the minimal subsistence level, from the state budget.

  16. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Russian state TV host Dmitry Kiselyov's Nuclear Warning to Team Obama/Neocon: "A Russian takes a long time to harness a horse, but then rides fast"

    Critics call him the "Kremlin's chief propagandist". And like many other top Russian officials, he is on the Western sanctions blacklist.

    But the warning he delivered to Washington in last night's edition of his show News of the Week was, even for him, particularly dramatic. "Impudent behaviour" towards Russia may have "nuclear" consequences, he said.

    "A Russian takes a long time to harness a horse, but then rides fast," said the news anchor, quoting a famous Russian saying.

    By "riding fast", Kiselyov was referring to a string of recent Russian military deployments:

    • Last week, Moscow sent three warships from the Black Sea Fleet to the Mediterranean: on board, cruise missiles that can carry nuclear warheads
    • Russia deployed nuclear-capable Iskander-M missiles into the Kaliningrad region bordering Poland
    • The Russians announced they would send 5,000 paratroopers to Egypt for military exercises
    • Moscow also suspended three nuclear agreements with the United States
    Kiselyov said that in recent days there had been a "radical change' in the US-Russian relationship.

    Moscow was taking action, he said, because of "the loud talk in Washington of a 'Plan B' for Syria. Everyone understands what this plan means: direct military force in Syria against President Assad's forces and the Russian military".

    In Washington, the US state department said last week it was continuing internal deliberations about "non-diplomatic" options regarding the war in Syria.

    In News of the Week, a Russian defence ministry spokesman warned American bombers not to target the Syrian army. Kiselyov put it more bluntly: "We'll shoot them down," he explained.

    Is this bravado? Bluffing? Or is there a real danger of a direct military confrontation between Russia and the US?

    In recent days several Russian newspapers have been talking openly about the possibility of such a clash.

    "There is a reason that Russia has deployed S-300 surface-to-air missile systems to Syria," Izvestia commented last week.

    "Moscow is ready to use them. This won't spark a world war. After all, we've shot down American planes before, in Vietnam and Korea [in Soviet times]. Vladimir Putin is making it clear that Russia will make no more concessions [in Syria]."

    And Fyodor Lukyanov, Editor-in-Chief of Russia in Global Affairs warned that "this is the most dangerous situation since the Cold War".

    "In the Cold War, confrontation was based on understanding of 'red lines'. Today this is not the case.

    "Most likely no-one wants to launch a big collision between Russia and the United States. But this is exactly the case when unintended consequences might emerge."

    To some in Moscow, Russia is merely reacting to Western aggression.

    "There is a campaign to hit Russia everywhere possible," believes retired Lt Gen Yevgeny Buzhinsky. He cites Western sanctions against Moscow and even the banning of Russia's Paralympic team over doping allegations.

    "Of course there is a reaction. As far as Russia sees it, as Putin sees it, it is full-scale confrontation on all fronts. If you want a confrontation, you'll get one.

    "But it won't be a confrontation that doesn't harm the interests of the United States. You want a confrontation, you'll get one everywhere."


  17. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Russian Ministry of Defense: USA gave coordinates of the Russian army hospital to terrorists; US has bloody hands:

    Russian MoD: America gave terrorists the coordinates of the Russian hospital. Blood of our soldiers and doctors is on US hands. “It is beyond doubt that the shelling was conducted by the ‘opposition’ militants. Moscow understands who gave the Syrian militants the coordinates of the Russian hospital right at the moment when it started working,” Konashenkov said, adding that the defense ministry attributes the blame for the incident to “terrorists and their patrons in the US, the UK and France.”

  18. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    If the "Russian Defense Ministry" doesn't like the possible outcomes of war they ought to get out of the one they're promoting with great control over all such "accidents" themselves. Those poor souls left in Aleppo are begging for just that. Above report coming from Russia's own military propagandists and this one from a human rights watch group:

    DECEMBER 1, 2016 11:05AM EST
    Russia/Syria: War Crimes in Month of Bombing Aleppo
    UN General Assembly Should Organize Emergency Special Session

    (New York) – The Russian-Syrian coalition committed war crimes during a month-long aerial bombing campaign of opposition-controlled territory in Aleppo in September and October 2016.


    Ruins of a residential house that was struck in an aerial attack, killing at least 24 civilians, on September 27, 2016.

    © 2016 Syria Civil Defense
    The Violations Documentation Center, a Syrian civil monitoring organization, documented that the bombing campaign killed more than 440 civilians, including more than 90 children. Airstrikes often appeared to be recklessly indiscriminate, deliberately targeted at least one medical facility, and included the use of indiscriminate weaponssuch as cluster munitions and incendiary weapons. Satellite imagery that Human Rights Watch analyzed shows more than 950 new distinct impact sites consistent with the detonation of large high explosive bombs across the area during the month.

    “Using that amount of firepower in an urban area with tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of civilians predictably killed hundreds of civilians,” said Ole Solvang, deputy emergencies director at Human Rights Watch. “Those who ordered and carried out unlawful attacks should be tried for war crimes.”

    The appeal comes in response to Russia’s October 8 veto of a draft UN Security Council resolution demanding an end to all aerial bombardment of Aleppo, the fifth time Moscow has blocked council action since the conflict began in 2011. It was also the first-time Chinabroke ranks with Russia on a Syria veto and abstained.

    Local residents, media activists, and medical personnel told Human Rights Watch that the month-long bombardment was the most intense since the start of the conflict. One local journalist said: “Those were bloody days. It was a bloody month. Each day, Russian and Syrian airstrikes killed tens of people. It was the most terrible month since the beginning of the war.”
    Those interviewed also said that the bombardment was particularly terrifying because of frequent use of bombs that they said they had not seen in the city of Aleppo before. Often referring to them as “bunker busting bombs,” local residents said that these weapons were capable of penetrating and demolishing entire multi-story concrete buildings, meaning it was no longer safe to hide in basements and underground shelters. Some of the attacks with the largest number of civilian casualties were from airstrikes that caused entire buildings to collapse.

    The bombardment significantly affected several hospitals in eastern Aleppo. The Syrian-American Medical Society, which supports several hospitals in Aleppo, recorded 16 incidents of aerial bombardment affecting hospitals in the period. In some cases, aircraft dropped indiscriminate weapons such as incendiary weapons and cluster munitions near hospitals, causing them damage. In other cases, attacks struck the hospitals directly causing much greater damage.

    Syrian and Russian authorities and armed opposition groups blamed each other for this. Whatever the reason, the Russian-Syrian coalition should have taken precautionary measures to avoid and minimize civilian casualties when attacking armed opposition groups, Human Rights Watch said.

    Human Rights Watch has also documentedarmed opposition groups’ attacks against government-controlled western Aleppo.
  19. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Quit posting propaganda here. The Russians are not intentionally targeting civilians. That is a lie straight from the war criminals in Obama's State Department. And Human Rights Watch is not a credible or impartial or "non-governmental" organization.
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  20. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    As they say...a picture is worth a thousand words....and that includes those coming from the Russian Defense Ministry! If they wish to place the blame elsewhere you'd think they'd have enough sense to designate that job to a more pleasant sounding department that doesn't so blatantly show which side of the victims they've been on and continue to be on.

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