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Correction of Amoris Laetitia Is About to Be Published

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by BrianK, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    4529 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace to Pedro Regis, September 22, 2017
    Dear children, you are heading towards a future of great contempt for the sacred. Many will walk in the darkness of false doctrines, and few will walk in the truth. Difficult days will come. Be prepared. Seek strength in the Words of My Jesus and listen to the True Magisterium of His Church. Those who do not remain faithful to the True Doctrine will walk like the blind leading the blind. I am your Sorrowful Mother and I suffer for what comes to you. Bend your knees in prayer. Only by the power of prayer can you achieve victory. Do not retreat. I will be with you. Whatever happens, trust fully in the Power of God. Nothing is lost. God is acting in the life of His Chosen Ones; trust in Him and all will be well for you. Go forward in truth. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Remain at peace.

    4528 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, September 19, 2017
    Dear children, the road of holiness that leads to salvation is full of obstacles, but do not retreat. My Son Jesus is with you. Be faithful and everywhere testify that you are in the world, but not of the world. You are living in the time of sorrows, but do not be discouraged. Give me your hands and I will lead you on a safe path. The devil will act against the Church of My Jesus. Be faithful to the Gospel and to the true Magisterium of the Church. You are heading for a future of great spiritual confusion. The True Church of My Jesus will drink the bitter cup of pain. Faithful Ministers will be rejected and few will remain firm in the faith. I suffer for what comes to you. Do not be unfaithful. My Jesus needs your sincere and courageous testimony. Go forward in truth. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank You for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Remain at peace.
     
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  2. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Just a note to anyone who may be causally reading this thread. What was just released was a "filial correction" by a group of laity and clergy. It is unrelated to the "fraternal correction" we have been waiting for from the Dubia Cardinals. Well it is related in some sense because it deals with the same issues, but it is unrelated in that it was not put out by the Dubia Cardinals.

    Just thought I would throw that out there. I was confused myself at first and it took me a short while to realize that.
     
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  3. dcana

    dcana Angels

    Nah - I think our good Lord will relatively quickly put an end to this...confusion, let us say.

    I don't think PF has any intent or obligation to respond to this filial correction, though it may prove to be a truly historical document in papal history. A fraternal correction from his cardinals on the other hand... IMO he also has an obligation to respond to his four (now two) cardinals' dubia, but he has not done so in more than a year's time, twice the length of the "grace period." It's time for Burke and Brandmüller to act. God will be with them.

    You know, the very next thing that happens in Revelation 12 after St. John describes the Woman clothed with the sun is that the dragon's tail "drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth." I believe in traditional Catholic Scriptural study, the "stars of heaven" are seen as representing those in the Church who have the authority and responsibility to teach the Church's doctrine. Just an observation.

    Please pray the Rosary every day
     
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  4. AED

    AED Powers

    Astute observation dcana. You are right on the traditional interpretation of "a third of the stars". It is bishops and cardinals but it can also double as an image of fallen angels.
     
  5. AED

    AED Powers

    That is very discouraging to hear. But I suspect this may be the way in Europe as well and in parts of US. Sister Lucy referred to the big satanic push would be against marriage and family. And here we are.
     
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  6. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    It is happening almost everywhere. Pastoral discipline has broken down.

    With confession the 'neglected sacrament' what do we expect?

    Many years ago John Paul II was quoted as saying the greatest crisis in the church and the world was the 'loss of the sense of sin'.

    How true!
     
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  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    In his 1984 apostolic exhortation “Reconciliatio et Paenitentia,” the Holy Father warned that “the loss of the sense of sin is a form or fruit of the negation of God: not only of the atheist, but also of the secularist.”

    This phenomenon implies a paradox. “While the effects of sin abound — greed, dishonesty and corruption, broken relationships and exploitation of persons, pornography and violence — the recognition of individual sinfulness has waned,” he said.

    “In its place a disturbing culture of blame and litigiousness has arisen which speaks more of revenge than justice and fails to acknowledge that in every man and woman there is a wound which, in the light of faith, we call original sin,” John Paul II lamented.

    “Sin is an integral part of the truth about the human person. To recognize oneself as a sinner is the first and essential step in returning to the healing love of God,” he said.

    “Given this reality, the bishop’s duty to indicate the sad and destructive presence of sin, both in individuals and in communities, is in fact a service of hope,” the Pope said.

    “Far from being something negative, it strengthens believers to abandon evil and embrace the perfection of love and the fullness of Christian life,” he added.

    “Let us boldly announce that indeed we are not the sum total of our weaknesses and failures! We are the sum of the Father’s love for us, and capable of becoming the image of his Son!” he told the U.S. bishops.

    “The lasting peace and harmony so longed for by individuals, families and society can only be won through that conversion which is a fruit of mercy and constituent of genuine reconciliation,” the Holy Father said. “As bishops you have the difficult yet satisfying duty of promoting the true Christian understanding of reconciliation."

    “Indeed mercy constitutes the fundamental content of the messianic message of Christ and the constitutive power of his mission and thus can never be set aside in the name of pragmatism,” he continued.

    “As pastors of your flock it is with this merciful love — never a mere sense of favor — that you too must reach down to every prodigal son, to every human misery, and above all to every form of moral misery, to sin,” John Paul II said.

    The Holy Father concluded by encouraging the bishops to promote the sacrament of penance, “the only ordinary way for the faithful to reconcile themselves with God and the Church.”

    “Though it cannot be denied that the profound power of this sacrament is often considered today with indifference, it is also the case that young people in particular readily give testimony to the graces and transforming benefits it bestows,” he said.

    “I again appeal directly to you and to your priests: Arm yourselves with more confidence, creativity and perseverance in presenting it and leading people to appreciate it,” he exhorted. “Time spent in the confessional is time spent in service of the spiritual patrimony of the Church and the salvation of souls.”
     
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  8. Praetorian

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    Of course none of us can know the exact course of events and you may be right in that God may accelerate the timetable, but what I was laying out was the process on how to handle this that has been written down by the great Saints and Doctors of the Church. For a fraternal correction, the Pope has one or two six month grace periods to respond.

    One thing I need to point out, you stated in your post:
    "A fraternal correction from his cardinals on the other hand... IMO he also has an obligation to respond to his four (now two) cardinals' dubia, but he has not done so in more than a year's time, twice the length of the "grace period."

    It has to be stated that the correction that was sent to the Pope on August 11th is the first official correction he has received (to our knowledge). The Dubia were a request for clarity, not a correction, so the six month grace periods do not start from when the Dubia were sent a year ago. If anything they begin from August 11th 2017. Or possibly from some other date as yet unknown to us since a fraternal correction is most likely first delivered in private).
     
  9. dcana

    dcana Angels

    Ah, I see now. Thank you for clarifying. :)
     
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