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  1. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Coronavirus: city of 9 million -- Wuhan in China to shut down public transport over outbreak

    Last major pandemic was 1918-1919 Spanish flu outbreak infected 500 million & killed between 50m & 100m after WW1.

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  2. garabandal

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  3. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    22 days into 2020 and there are signs all around we are heading for seismic changes ----
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  5. sparrow

    sparrow Powers

    And we have one in Canada as well.. read that yesterday but can't find a news article stating it now.
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  6. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Great plagues and calamities, that nothing will be able to

    stop or lessen, will rise over France. An immense

    deathtoll, never seen before by anyone, and diseases

    hitherto unknown, will break over France. The plague of

    this deathtoll will strike the Centre especially. It will strike

    even your own parish, My children, but fear not, for My

    Heart will be the abode that will protect you."

    "My children, those who have been waging war against

    Me for more than 60 years, a war that has been intensified

    over the last 11 years, will not be affected by this plague,

    but I shall deal with them in a different way, yet just as


    Marie-Julie Jahenny
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  7. padraig

    padraig New Member

    Marie- Julie speaks of a , 'Burning plague'. ,.a fever....she also gives a Divine Remedy:

    However, one never before seen plague will be particularly deadly, a 'Burning Plague' will spread fast and will kill quickly. Only one remedy will be available, and must be taken as directed in time, or the victim still may not survive. This is one chastisement Brittany will not be spared for it will have forgotten it's Faith.

    If anyone decides to take shelter in Brittany, be prepared for this plague.

    It will spread so fast there will not be time to prepare for death according to another of Marie-Julie's prophecies if we are unfortunate not to get the remedy in time. We will not have time to get a priest for the Last Rites, and indeed, if there are any priests left, they will be so busy, we may not get absolution. Heaven has prepared the CROSS OF PARDON in order to receive forgivenees of sin in this dire circumstance. (More about the Cross of Pardon, click here.)

    However, if you diganose the symptoms in time, here is the remedy:


    Remedy for the BURNING PLAGUE

    Ecstasy date August 5, 1880

    "There will be serious diseases that human art (skill) cannot alleviate. This malady will attack the heart first, then the mind, and at the same time, the tongue. It will be horrible. The heat that will accompany it will be a consuming fire, so strong that the affected parts of the body will be of an unbearable redness, (red blotches / patches).

    After seven days, this malady, like the seed sown in a field, will rise rapidly and make immense progress (i.e. take over the body quickly, or, spread through the population

    My children, this is the only remedy that can save you:

    You know the leaves of thorns that grow in almost any hedges (white hawthorn). The leaves of this thorn will stop the progress of the disease. You must pick the leaves, not the wood. Even dry, they will retain their effectiveness.

    Put them in boiling water and leave them there for 14 minutes, covering the container so that the steam remains. When the malady first attacks, you must use this remedy three times a day.


    My children, this disease will be very serious in Brittany. The thought of God there will be less great ...(I.e. they will not think of God as much as before and therefore will be struck hardest with this malady.)

    The malady will produce a continual uprising of the heart, (blood pressure? Increased heart rate?) vomiting. If the remedy is taken too late, the affected parts will become black, and in this black, there will be yellowish pale streaks." (Images: white hawthorn bush, white hawthorn leaves.)


    Observations: is there any Biblical basis for this new plague that will come before the justice of God strikes? YES.

    Compare the prophecies of Marie-Julie and the coming chastisements of civil war, the Three Days of Darkness, etc. this passage from the prophecies of Isaiah / Isaias (13
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    You can look online for businesses which sell herbal preparations and order white hawthorn. I bought some dried white hawthorn from a herbalist in Texas.
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  9. padraig

    padraig New Member

    In Ireland we call it the, 'Fairy Tree'. It was always thought to have magical properties.

    I see it is the State tree of Missouri.:)

    Intresting it blossoms in the month of May, Mary's month.

    Sceach gheal
    (Crataegus monogyna)

    Hawthorn or white thorn was planted in hedges throughout our countryside. Its sweet smelling ‘May’ blossom is a feature in that month, and in autumn and winter the deep red haws colour the bare twigs. They are among the berries most favoured by birds. Only untrimmed hawthorn can flower and fruit freely, but hedges have to be cut to keep them stock proof. Hawthorn hedges may be trimmed regularly, or left for several years and then laid by cutting part way through the main stems and laying these horizontally through the hedge. Even old hawthorn hedges will regenerate if trunks are cut back to base and left to sprout again, but these must be fenced off so that farm livestock cannot reach the tasty young shoots and eat them. Like many other shrubs, hawthorn also grows in woodland where there is enough light – in open glades, along ‘rides’ through the woodland, or along the edge. A single tree may be left in a field as a ‘fairy thorn’, especially where there may be an archaeological site.
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  11. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Oh no!
    The Singapore Archdiocese has issued a notice to say that Holy Communion will only be given in the hand during this viral outbreak.

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  12. padraig

    padraig New Member

    I suspect the virus could be spread at least as well by hand as by mouth, maybe more so.
  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Our young vicar said that this flu season. That he could give communion on the tongue more safely than in the hand. God bless him. He would like everyone to receive on the tongue I bet. He is very reverent and devout to Our Lord in the Eucharist.
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

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    For some reason I could not post from my cell phone this morning. No matter.
    Do you think that the situation might be different if you went to the TLM? That at the TLM, Holy Communion might still be given on the tongue? I would certainly try that.
    Or call ahead and find out.
    Or look at Facebook
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  15. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Yes, but we don’t have the TLM available daily.
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  16. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    The problem is that most of the faithful in Singapore receive in the hand, and the communion hosts are rather small (smaller than the ones in the US and in Europe, in my experience ).
    This makes the priests more prone to touch one’s lips/ tongue when giving communion.

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  17. HeavenlyHosts

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    well, this is an urgent problem
    maybe you can just receive on the tongue on Sunday at the TLM. I am with you. I would make a spiritual Communion rather than receive in the hand. I might catch flak for saying that. But this won't last forever, hopefully.
    Priests use the smaller hosts in the TLM here, but the fact is that a person is kneeling, and the priest is ;looking down, and has more ease to place the Host on the tongue at that angle.
    I am sorry to learn of this.
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  18. pasted from the New York Post

    A CNN reporter broadcasts from Wuhan, China, on the recent viral outbreak. There is nobody near who could possibly infect him — unless the cameraman has Guinness Book of Records coughs and sneezes. So why does he insist on wearing a blue surgical mask while talking?

    It’s called “drama,” which is badly needed, because there appears to be nothing very special about this outbreak of the 2019-nCoV or Wuhan virus. It should actually be called the DvV, or Déjà vu Virus, because we have been through these hysterias before. Over and over. Heterosexual AIDS, Ebola repeatedly, the H1N1 swine flu that was actually vastly milder than the regular flu and, especially, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in 2003.

    Once you start debunking mass hysteria over outbreaks, it gets easy, because the same patterns repeat themselves.

    The best remedy for all epidemic hysteria is perspective. How is this new outbreak different and thus potentially more dangerous from other diseases we have dealt with in the past or are dealing with now?

    Wuhan is repeatedly labeled “deadly” — but so is every other virus most people know about. But especially deadly? Nearly 600 cases have been confirmed with at least 17 reported deaths.

    An infected American is reportedly doing well. It’s probably true that the death toll is understated, but it’s guaranteed the infection number is. Probably as with, say, flu, the vast majority of those infected have such slight symptoms they don’t seek medical attention.

    For that reason, a comparison to the US flu death rate is also very difficult. As a share of hospitalizations, the regular flu death rate is 8.5 percent to 17 percent, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — considerably higher than for Wuhan. But counting all estimated illnesses, reported and estimated, it’s much lower.

    What we can say for sure is that Wuhan will be a lot worse in China, simply because health care there is vastly inferior. It appears that, like flu, Wuhan usually kills through often treatable secondary infections. Well, treatable in the West. You’d be surprised at how many potentially deadly diseases (malaria, TB) Americans get that wreak havoc in much of the world but kill essentially none of us.

    It also appears those most likely to die of Wuhan-virus deaths fit the same profile as flu fatalities: people over 65, those with compromised immune systems and those with serious pre-existing conditions. Two of the 17 Wuhan dead were 89-year-olds with pre-existing conditions; the youngest was 48 and suffering from diabetes and a stroke.

    Contagiousness is highly important, of course. But so far, there is no evidence that Wuhan, first reported more than three weeks ago, is more contagious than influenza or spreads differently.

    Those are the important factors; everything else is noise and tinfoil-hat paranoia.

    see also

    Netflix releases ‘Pandemic’ docuseries as coronavirus spreads

    We are breathlessly told it’s spread from human to human. Again, most of the contagious diseases we think of are spread between humans, with some exceptions, such as rabies.

    It’s inherently bad because it’s new, we’re told. So were swine flu and SARS.

    Chinese health officials warned it could mutate further to either become more deadly or more contagious. Same was said about the aforementioned outbreaks. Actually, viruses usually mutate to become less deadly, to preserve the host body and hence themselves.

    The media are correct in saying the closest comparison here is SARS. It also was first reported in China and was what’s called a coronavirus. But while they want you to remember SARS as akin to the Black Death with cries of “bring out your dead!,” fact is, there was a grand total of only 8,098 cases, of whom 774 died. Then the disease simply disappeared. More than 7,000 of those cases and about 650 of the deaths occurred just in Mainland China and Hong Kong. The United States had just 75 cases and zero deaths.

    By contrast, the CDC estimates about 80,000 Americans died of flu two seasons ago.

    Michael Fumento is an attorney, journalist and author and has been reporting on epidemic hysterias since 1986.
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  19. HeavenlyHosts

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    I totally agree with you, WBTW. At first, the truth was told that it was an ordinary virus, but now it is epic!
  20. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Sg, keep us posted, please.
  21. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Yes, this is what I’m thinking of doing.
    I can’t bring myself to receive Jesus in my hand.
    So, I will need to learn how to make Spiritual Communion.
    So sad :cry:

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