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Can we talk about homosexuals?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Freedom, May 19, 2012.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. A very sobering statement from our Lord.

    I have to ask--who is Miriam?
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  2. Denise P

    Denise P Principalities

    As a flight attendant for nearly 40 years I have sat on the jump seat with many gay flight attendants, (men and women) solving the worlds problems. When the opportunity presents itself I ask when they knew for sure they were gay. I would say that 90% of the men say they knew something was different about them before age 6. With the women it was much later. I do not know what to make of of all of this. Most of these people seem very ordinary in most every other way when I work with them— caring and upstanding people. Like I said, I really don’t know or understand their lot in life. There but for the grace of God go I.
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  3. any name you wish

    any name you wish Principalities

    It sounds harsh but I think that they're lying to themselves or confused if they think that they were a 'homosexual' child. Or they've been abused.
  4. Bella

    Bella Archangels

    Also, while we're on Galileo, his story has been much revised by those who hate the Church. Yes the Church was sceptical about his claims that the earth moved round the sun and not vice-versa. The Pope asked Galileo to hold off from publishing his findings until the Church could verify them itself. The Church did not want to mislead people. Galileo was in a rush to publish and would not heed the request to wait, so the Vatican did put him under house arrest. He was proved right eventually and Pope John Paul II apologised in 1982. The amount of times I hear this lazy revised version trotted out as fact, though. As for torture and murder... pure fantasy.

    On the figures for homosexuality - they are hugely inflated by a rich international gay rights pressure group known as "Stonewall". The actual figures for the UK ( from the Office of National Statistics) is that 1.5% of the population is homosexual. I saw that in Canada and the states it is slightly higher- around 3%,but nowhere near the 10% that is always claimed.
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  5. Bella

    Bella Archangels

    I have found this resource from Ascension Press very helpful in helping me and others to understand same sex attraction and the Church's response. I highly recommend it and I would be interested to hear what others think. I really wish we could produce resources such as this in the UK. We seem so very fearful of offending anyone.

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  6. padraig

    padraig New Member

    That was just wonderful. He makes it all look so easy and simple.
  7. Adoremus

    Adoremus Archangels

    Miriam was a member of the forum who passed away from cancer a few years ago. RIP.
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  8. Bella

    Bella Archangels

    I think the truth is usually just that, Padraig: simple. When people are tying themselves in knots to explain some heresy or other, it's usually a sign that the truth has taken a walk somewhere else.....
  9. AED

    AED Powers

    So well said!
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  10. AED

    AED Powers

    Thanks for telling me Adoremus.
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  11. Immaculata

    Immaculata New Member

    I agree with this. Like what 6 year old really thinks about sexual things anyway ? There is no way they can know themselves to be gay at that age when all 6 year olds really think about is watching cartoons, playing with toy soldiers or with barbie and how to get some sweets. When they say they knew from that age, I think they are talking utter nonsense.
  12. Immaculata

    Immaculata New Member


    Another reason to avoid Lorna Byrne is the fact that she speaks at mind body spirit seminars. These are big events where pretty much every type of occult teaching and practice is put on show. Although they speak of God, if you mention the real God or Jesus Christ crucified and resurrected to them you will see rage in their eyes.
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  13. AED

    AED Powers

    Good warning!
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  14. Don_D

    Don_D Powers

    It is amazing the things we come up with to rationalize and make subjective our sins so that they can become appealing to others and not be condemned. After all it is for love right? Golden threads from Angels, how sweet. I remember from my childhood hearing about the golden thread which my parents thought much of. It was in relation to Buddhist teachings.
    Arguments like this are such a great mockery to the men and women who by the Grace of God put away their fleshly desires to take up their cross. Consider all the prayers that have been said and penance that has been made by them and others. The anguish which they have faced and cried out for God's Mercy and Grace. This is no easy feat to deny oneself. These people are mocked for this in fact.
    It is cunning how the same age old sins and arguments for them manifest themselves time and time again over thousands of years and generations. They are presented as a new and enlightened form of thinking but there is nothing new about them.
    I am saddened that so very many people today are told such great lies so that people can avoid speaking the Truth.
    I grew up with gay family members and their friends. They told me I was one of them several times. My experience has been that they all do if you spend enough time with them. Nothing could be further from the truth although, I had perversions of my own that I was to battle with.
    I thank God that others had the love and courage to tell me the Truth.
  15. padraig

    padraig New Member

    The difficulty with homosexuality is that it is very ,very corruptive. It is like a basket of oranges. One day you spot a little blue spot of mould on one of them and you come back and suddenly the whole lot are blue and rotting. It spreads like wildfire.

    It is the sure sign of corruption in Nation. In history in Nation that tolerates it becomes totally rotten and falls shortly after. Like a rotten apple from a tree.
  16. Immaculata

    Immaculata New Member

    It seems like priests don't even know this basic teaching anymore - https://www.associationofcatholicpr...p-sending-mixed-messages-on-important-issues/

    I wonder do they really believe that it is okay to say these things, or are they fully aware in their own mind that they are walking away from God.

    "While it is unclear by whose direction the booklet was amended, it runs directly counter to the effort to extend the definition of family to include same-sex couples and to welcome them, as all Catholics are welcomed, to participate in the WMOF."

    It is okay to welcome gay people to the church on the basis that they are converted but to say that we should extend the definition of family to same sex couples is wrong. Are these priests not heretics by saying that ?
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  17. padraig

    padraig New Member

    If people pray they will always, always see the Truth.

    If they do not they will always be blind.
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  18. Immaculata

    Immaculata New Member

    Its scary how fast fast this country is going down. Everyone wants the church to change but nobody wants to change themselves.
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  19. Denise P

    Denise P Principalities

    If you read what I wrote, they said that they knew that there was something different about themselves. I don’t think they were thinking about sexual things at that age but that they didn’t gravitate to what most boys did at that age. And like I said before, I don’t begin to understand any of it. It is just my observation.
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  20. Heidi

    Heidi Archangels

    Mental illness can show up in young children. That is what homosexuality is: a mental illness.

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