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AVISO NEWS: No longer supports supporters of Pope Francis

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by local, Oct 19, 2015.

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  1. local

    local Guest

    Sadly & unfortunately we saw this happening. From his blog post today:



    There is great danger when once criticizes the Pope, if one feels justified or not. A slippery road...
     

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  2. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Sad, sad, sad...when we focus on the wrong things, it can only lead to bad things.

    :(
     
  3. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Oh boy....breaking from the Pope always works out well:eek:
     
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  4. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I think we should pray for Aviso, he is a good guy who has just gone down the wrong rabbit hole. The devil uses different different tricks to attack different personalities. To those on the far right he uses the trick of absolute fidelity to everything the magisterium teaches except for one important thing. In many cases it is that a Pope is not valid or need not be heeded at all because he is not acting in a way the person views as "Truly Catholic".
     
  5. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Poor Aviso. We are all vulnerable to our character defects. The devil has a wide scope of practise: pride, self-pity, intolerance, selfishness, self centeredness, greed, envy, arrogance, impatience, lust, gluttony, jealousy, dishonesty, sloth and all their variants and effects. He knows which buttons to press. I was praying for Aviso only yesterday. A long time ago I was thrown off his old site for supporting Pope Francis. I was immediately thrown off his new site for the same. I still see him as my brother.
     
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  6. As the new guy here, who is Aviso?
     
  7. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Not a good moment to give 'knee jerk' reactions to anything being said. Pharisees and Sadducees did as much. People who make haste choices will more often then not live to regret them. Prophecy has been repeating again and again not to loose faith, pray for the Pope, pray for the Church as there will be great confusion. I see this all the time, even on this forum. Be patient and lets hear what Pope Francis has to say in his closing remarks at the Synod.
     
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  8. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    He is a Frenchman who was converted, baptised and married in Garabandal and who has tried valiantly to carry the messages from there for many years. In recent years it became more important for him to be seen as one who defends the truth of the Catholic Church the as he sees it. He rejects much of Vatican II and sees Pope Francis as a threat to the eternal truths taught by the Catholic Church. He claims to have contacts that keep him well informed. Like me, he tends to be a bit hot headed. Mac recently sent me a wee cartoon of a head with fire coming out of it. It was meant to be me. It made me laugh. God bless Mac. God bless Aviso and keep him from tripping up on his own feet. Here in New Zealand hidden bluffs on the steep mountainsides claim the lives of many.
     
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  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    This poor Aviso, and I hadn't heard of him until now, should remember that the Church has had many less than excellent popes over the centuries. Some were heretics, some great sinners. Even the first one denied Our Lord despite being privileged to breath the same air as Him. Father Hunwicke is excellent on this in his blog, where he also warns against the dangers of an ultra-montanism that can steer perilously close to idolatry. The Pope's main job is to defend the Truth and Doctrine that has already been revealed. Provided he does this, and Pope Francis still has so far, he is doing that job even if he makes a great hames of very many other things. Many previous popes caused great harm to the Church, leading to scandal and schism among other calamities. Some were even heretical and had to be corrected by a successor, but all were legitimate popes deserving of the loyalty of the flock. However, popes should not be considered immune from criticism either, as Saint Catherine exemplified, for example.
     
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  10. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    This is very important advice Fatima. I am beginning to suspect that we may have a long chastisement as opposed to a short one. Whatever the case may ultimately be, we know our faith will be shaken to bits during it. I have heard it said that it would shake the faith of the great saints. I have more and more been drawn to "become small" and not worry so much about these big issues that are shaking the Church. I think in the end it will be so confusing which way is right most will not know. All we will have left is our Rosaries and our Scapulars as Our Lady foretold. When you stop to think about it that is an ominous statement. Where is the Eucharist, where is the Church? Why didn't she say we will have these things to save us? No, she said in the end all we will have left is the Rosary and the Scapular.Perhaps all else will collapse and appear almost wiped out as Our Lord at the Crucifixion. Confusion will reign everywhere, cling to these and our mother will bring us safely through the storm even if many of us take wrong turns at some point.
     
  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I can't resist saying that the rugby lives of many poor Frenchmen were claimed in not so hidden bluffs the other night. Obviously, nobody told the All-Blacks that the Year of Mercy is approaching.
     
  12. Joe Crozier

    Joe Crozier Guest

    Very funny but rugby is a sore spot for Scotsmen like me right now and my ancestors were French. Double punishment. I think Aviso would laugh at your comment too. He has a good sense of humour...in most cases.
     
  13. Carmel333

    Carmel333 Archangels

    I agree that this is not the time to make any judgement on the Pope. I get the feeling that Pope Benedict may have stepped down because of pressure from some of the liberal bishops and cardinals regarding these issues, and felt and perhaps warned Francis from the get go that these issues would have to be dealt with to finally put things to rest. I too wish that Pope Francis would stand up and be clear and confirm Christ's teachings on marriage, but perhaps things have to happen in the Church to prepare for the final conflict on earth. Remember that the High Priest that condemned Christ was acting out God's will, even though we know he did a very evil thing by ordering his execution. I'm not implying that Francis is evil, only that perhaps he knows things have to come to a head in the Church before we can move on with this issue. It may even bring on the Warning, which in this society I think is very necessary! God needs to intervene soon!
     
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  14. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Excellent point highlighted:):):):)
     
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  15. Bonaventure

    Bonaventure Guest

    Aviso, I will pray for you for a change of heart and return to the One, True, Holy Catholic Church....
     
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  16. Joe Crozier

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    I suspect when the Tribulation is upon us the vast majority of people including Catholics won't have a clue what is really going on until the Warning happens. They will think they are simply caught up in catastrophe and conflict. They will feel lost and helpless in the onslaught. Many will despair and most will be brought to that point. And they will not see the hand of Satan in the glove of the perpetrators nor understand that the situation is due to moral collapse and spiritual disintegration. Even those of us who have been favoured with this foreknowledge will find scant comfort or strength in it. We will be in the same carriage drawn furiously on by the same horses: Terror, Frustration, Bewilderment and Despair. Only when God shows His hand will we know the Truth. Only that will set us free. "My life, like a bird, has escaped from the snare of the fowler."
     
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  17. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    "Even to fool the elect - if that were possible!"
     
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  18. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I believe this has become an issue of spiritual warfare. When one like Aviso ends up on the fringe, an inordinate amount of energy must be expended to convince himself that he is justified. This attitude of defensiveness and self-righteousness is easily manipulated by satan. Humility is the only remedy. May Jesus in His great Mercy bring Aviso low, so that his pride may be broken.

    He who exalts himself shall be humbled, but he who humbles himself shall be exalted!

    Let God arise and his enemies be scattered! May the spirits of pride and self-righteousness be uprooted in the heart of our brother,Aviso, and may Our Lady stand guard over his humbled heart! Father, come to the rescue of your son who has turned his back on the Vicar of Christ. Jesus, please rule in the life of his family. O Mary conceived without sin, pray for Aviso! May your maternal love and prudence soften his heart! May the Synod finale bring clarity and peace to all!

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
  19. Timothius722

    Timothius722 Archangels

    Aviso...our dear Pope Francis has been so misrepresented by the secular media...very often taking his comments out of context. The Freemasons are having a day inciting misunderstanding and confusion. Pope Francis is our Pope...no one else should try to be pope. Pope Francis is brilliant....please don't jump ship in the midst of the storm.
     
  20. Be very careful who you are following Aviso. If it is Mr. Kelly Bowring, PLEASE quit listening to him! He is a false prophet filled with his own hot air following MDM and bad mouthing Pope Francis. Talk about pride!!
    Not to long ago you were asking for prayers for your health because you thought you were dying. We ALL PRAYED FOR YOU! Realize that if you choose to follow Pope Francis and confess your sin of apostasy, EVEN IF HE TURNS OUT TO BE WRONG---you will still be saved. HOWEVER, if you choose to go into apostasy and he turns out to be right---you will be in Mortal sin. I absolutely believe Pope Francis is chosen by the Holy Spirit and perfect for this moment in history. If you would take the time to read his words of wisdom from the ending of the LAST SYNOD--you would change your mind. It is a brilliant, humble, perfect speech and the whole world needs to listen up!
    May the Holy Spirit and your Angel whisper in your ear and turn your heart towards our Lady and her mission--which is to lead the Church, not abandon it! Get back on board the barque of Peter!!!!:cry::(
     
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