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Ashes must not be scattered or kept at home - Cardinal Mueller

Discussion in 'The Sacraments' started by davidtlig, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    Vatican: Ashes must not be scattered or kept at home

    by Associated Press
    posted Tuesday, 25 Oct 2016
    The urn containing the ashes of Polish filmmaker Andrzej Wajda (AP)

    The new instructions were released on Tuesday by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

    The Vatican has set out guidelines for Catholics who want to be cremated, saying their remains cannot be scattered, divided up or kept at home but rather stored in a sacred, Church-approved place.

    The new instructions were released on Tuesday by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

    For most of its 2,000-year history, the Catholic Church only permitted burial, arguing that this best expressed the Christian hope in resurrection. But in 1963, the Vatican explicitly allowed cremation as long as it didn’t suggest a denial of faith about resurrection.

    The new document repeats that burial remains preferred but lays out guidelines for conserving ashes for the increasing numbers of Catholics who choose cremation.

    It said it was doing so to counter what it called “new ideas contrary to the Church’s faith” that had emerged since 1963, including New Age ideas that death is a “fusion” with Mother Nature and the universe, or the “definitive liberation” from the prison of the body.

    The Vatican said ashes and bone fragments cannot be kept at home, since that would deprive the Christian community as a whole from remembering the dead. Rather, Church authorities should designate a sacred place, such as a cemetery or church area, to hold them.

    Only in extraordinary cases can a bishop allow ashes to be kept at home, it said.

    The document said remains cannot be divided among family members or put in lockets or other mementoes. Nor can the ashes be scattered in the air, land or sea since doing so would give the appearance of “pantheism, naturalism or nihilism,” the guidelines said.

    It repeated Church teaching that Catholics who choose to be cremated for reasons contrary to the Christian faith must be denied a Christian funeral.

    The new instruction carries an August 15 date and says Pope Francis approved it on March 18. It wasn’t clear if the guidelines were retroactive or what Catholics should do if they have disposed of their loved ones in ways now deemed improper.

    The author of the text, Cardinal Gerhard Mueller, was asked at a Vatican briefing if Francis had any reservations about the text, particularly the refusal to let family members keep remains of their loved ones at home.

    “The dead body isn’t the private property of relatives, but rather a son of God who is part of the people of God,” Mueller said. “We have to get over this individualistic thinking.”

    While the new instruction insists that remains be kept together, Vatican officials said they are not about to go gather up the various body parts of saints that are scattered in churches around the world. The practice of dividing up saints’ bodies for veneration was a fad centuries ago but is no longer in favour.

    “Going to all the countries that have a hand of someone would start a war among the faithful,” reasoned Mgr Angel Rodriguez Luno, a Vatican theological adviser.

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  2. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    "I got no place to go." But I do, we are like minded at MOG. Thank you. Another issue, I share my personal spiritual problems for my family is liberal minded, they have fallen away from the Faith.

    My sister died five years ago and her immediate family had her body cremated to my surprise. After the funeral Mass, I explained to my sister's husband and her son, my godchild, why cremation is not the best way and why you shouldn't scatter ashes.

    They told me my sister's parish priest was fine with both, hence, the liberal bishop in their diocese.

    Then (they spoke of doing this), my sister's immediate family took some of her ashes to a famous mountain in Ireland to scatter them. Her urn was never properly buried or placed in a Catholic mausoleum. I don't know where the urn is today. My brother-in-law has since moved from the home my sister and he shared together. This is wrong, an urn is not furniture to be moved around, the body is sacred.

    I am not accepting cremation is ecological and or there are limited burial places on the earth.
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  3. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    This is weird news. I was always under the impression that cremation was forbidden for Catholics.
  4. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    It used to be, but Surprise, Surprise!
    All that changed in the 60's ;)
    Get hip with it man!
  5. davidtlig

    davidtlig Powers

    My sister died last year so this topic is important for me. Fortunately she had, in an early Will, indicated she wanted to be buried but more recently had spoken about being cremated. My brother and sister in law died a few years earlier and had been cremated to my surprise as they were both practicing Catholics.

    I had not given this matter much thought until these events but I have now become negative about the cremation option. I am very happy with these new guidelines which I believe are important and overdue.
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