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  1. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Well, well, I thought it was Russia that destabilized the Middle East according to LTTW.


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    Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
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    Seumas Milne
    The sectarian terror group won’t be defeated by the western states that incubated it in the first place


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    The war on terror, that campaign without end launched 14 years ago by George Bush, is tying itself up in ever more grotesque contortions. On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting.

    The prosecution abandoned the case, apparently to avoid embarrassing the intelligence services. The defence argued that going ahead withthe trial would have been an “affront to justice” when there was plenty of evidence the British state was itself providing “extensive support” to the armed Syrian opposition.

    That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime.

    Clearly, the absurdity of sending someone to prison for doing what ministers and their security officials were up to themselves became too much. But it’s only the latest of a string of such cases. Less fortunate was a London cab driver Anis Sardar, who was given a life sentence a fortnight earlier for taking part in 2007 in resistance to the occupation of Iraq by US and British forces. Armed opposition to illegal invasion and occupation clearly doesn’t constitute terrorism or murder on most definitions, including the Geneva convention.

    But terrorism is now squarely in the eye of the beholder. And nowhere is that more so than in the Middle East, where today’s terrorists are tomorrow’s fighters against tyranny – and allies are enemies – often at the bewildering whim of a western policymaker’s conference call.

    For the past year, US, British and other western forces have been back in Iraq, supposedly in the cause of destroying the hyper-sectarian terror group Islamic State (formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq). This was after Isis overran huge chunks of Iraqi and Syrian territory and proclaimed a self-styled Islamic caliphate.

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    The campaign isn’t going well. Last month, Isis rolled into the Iraqi city of Ramadi, while on the other side of the now nonexistent border its forces conquered the Syrian town of Palmyra. Al-Qaida’s official franchise, the Nusra Front, has also been making gains in Syria.

    Some Iraqis complain that the US sat on its hands while all this was going on. The Americans insist they are trying to avoid civilian casualties, and claim significant successes. Privately, officials say they don’t want to be seen hammering Sunni strongholds in a sectarian war and risk upsetting their Sunni allies in the Gulf.

    A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.

    Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”.

    pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.

    That doesn’t mean the US created Isis, of course, though some of its Gulf allies certainly played a role in it – as the US vice-president, Joe Biden, acknowledged last year. But there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until the US and Britain invaded. And the US has certainly exploited the existence of Isis against other forces in the region as part of a wider drive to maintain western control.

    The calculus changed when Isis started beheading westerners and posting atrocities online, and the Gulf states are now backing other groups in the Syrian war, such as the Nusra Front. But this US and western habit of playing with jihadi groups, which then come back to bite them, goes back at least to the 1980s war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, which fostered the original al-Qaida under CIA tutelage.

    It was recalibrated during the occupation of Iraq, when US forces led by General Petraeus sponsored an El Salvador-style dirty war of sectarian death squads to weaken the Iraqi resistance. And it was reprised in 2011 in the Nato-orchestrated war in Libya, where Isis last week took control of Gaddafi’s home town of Sirte.

    In reality, US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

    What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus.
     
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  2. Picadillo:

    It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease


    Well, good luck with that strategy! And thanks for the Hillary propaganda. In reality it was your "dear leader" and his henchwoman, Hillary, who purposefully took down the strong men of the region who had at least kept a kind of stability (not beheadings and mutilations) there, knowing full well that the most aggressive thugs in the neighborhood would fill the void.....as well as leaving Iraq on purpose for same outcome. When the people of Egypt were rescued from such by another strongman, Sisi, with some values, your dear leader stopped the former aid given to the Muzbros there who were burning alive Coptic Christians in their locked churches and establishing Sharia law, and refused to give same assistance to the one who was giving some kind of freedom to the various factions but with conditions for the nastiest ones, iow, Obama's buddies....forcing, for the first time in ages that leader of our "former" ally to go to Putin for help. Then after dear leader's feckless promises of aggression with his various "red lines", those winks were noticed as more permissions to go full steam ahead. Except for those who were the best fighters of any "people of the region", the Kurds, just begging for a bit of modern warfare to just stay alive, and they were naturally refused as well by the Putin appeaser. Soooo, those left in that "region" are those now so enabled by those same world powers, those soon to gain the nukes, who will definitely be left to "cure" things via a chemo that will leave only burnt corpses everywhere. No, LTTW is not so far wrong in that prediction against any world leaders able to end this fire and its holocausts.....which esp. has been focused on Syria from which the spillage over former borders has indeed occurred as well as that prolonged carnage there.....and which may soon enter Europe via Italy as already threatened. And yes, too, Israel has been denuded of even its former buffer zones also in danger of the same terrorism so enabled by the lying cowards in Washington who permit them free rein to spread the great goal of the caliphate. No, there are no longer any stable "people of the region" left to "cure that (now metastasizing) disease".

    Seumas Milne
    The sectarian terror group won’t be defeated by the western states

    Helloooo......earth to Seumas......if you haven't noticed, unlike the rest of us who have, there isn't any kind of "defeating" tactics even being considered by any "western states". The others wait on the usual expected leader, the U.S., which, as LTTW says, has only contributed to the time line speeding up due to its merely sitting on the sidelines these days.
     
  3. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    I have no need to be right in any debate. I'm just trying to help battle ignorance for the good of all, so deception has no effect on your souls. When God gives the gift of discernment, you must use it according to His Will.

    The "rest of you" is a small number among those who can really discern (and most can, on this forum).

    As I said before: The West could squash ISIS at any moment with vastly, vastly superior military might. It has chosen not to......until the deceived populace begin asking for it (as you are doing now), so they can trample target regions with your blessing....to their own predetermined ends.
     
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  4. Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World".

    Understanding Mankind's Situation (cont'd)
    June 6: 11. Penetrating the Economic Darkness

    June 7: 12: The Russian Darkness

    http://www.locutions.org/category/understanding-mankinds-situation/

    As of yesterday, Obama, in front of the world.....our used to be allies in the region......and the enemy, announced that, after 2 years, we have no "complete" strategy against ISIS (or for anything else of any meaning in that region), attempting to blame again somebody else. It wouldn't matter if the people themselves asked to stop the terror in the distant region before it comes more forcefully to the homeland (where it is already occurring without definition). It certainly hasn't mattered to the dear leader when the people want our borders controlled. Instead he has blatantly threatened them with lawsuits against the individual border states who simply want the laws on the books obeyed and enforced. It doesn't matter to this lawless govt here what the people want or what they deserve for security. This regime, with its own agenda, would still do nothing more to fight terror than the usual rhetoric and tokenism. This guy has a history of such from his youth. He is such a pathological narcissist (as described by noted medical scientists in this area) that even when a separate branch of govt respectfully decides against his lawlessness he will attempt to bring them down. Unbelievable. Don't expect generations who now can vote in their promised freebies on the backs of good people to change such an irresponsible and non-accountable status quo way of living. It's gone too far. In fact, predicted by the founding fathers. Listen instead to the "Woman Clothed With the Sun" for the answers for these times.....her times! So far, for nearly 100 years, for the most part, even the Church has been ignoring her and God's own will through her. Her purpose is not as some kind of "potted plant"!
     
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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Amen.

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
  6. On June 07 Mary speaks about Putin as though he were already lost. I wonder why she would not request prayer for him?
     
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  7. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    I hope and pray Msgr Essef realizes that he is supporting the "judging" of Putin. Here is another example of what LTTW has missed:

    "Obama Is Destroying Europe", "Dragging It Into A Crusade Against Russia" Says Former French PM

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    Interviewed on June 6th by German Economic News, the chief economist at Bremer Landesbank, Folker Hellmeyer, says that because of Obama’s sanctions against Russia, German exports declined year-over-year by 18% in 2014, and by 34% in the first two months of 2015 (no later figures), but he asserts that "The damage is much more comprehensive than these statistics show,” because those are only the “primary losses,” and there are in addition “secondary effects,” which get even worse over time.

    For example: "European countries with strong business in Russia, including Finland and Austria, are economically hit very hard. These countries consequently place fewer orders from Germany. Moreover, considering that European corporations will circumvent the sanctions, to create production facilities at the highest efficiency level in Russia, we lose this potential capital stock, which is the basis of our prosperity. Russia wins the capital stock,” at the EU’s expense, even though the sanctions are targeted against Russia.

    But the nub is this: “For the future, Germany and the EU place their economic reliability into question with Russia. The relationship of trust is broken by Germany and the EU. In order to build such confidence, it takes several years. Between signature and delivery are up to five years. ... Siemens is now thrown out from a major project for this reason [i.e., because the requisite predictability has been lost]. Alstom has likewise lost the contract for the railway line from Moscow to Beijing. Consequently, the potential for damage is much more massive than the current figures show, not only for Germany, but for the entire EU.”
     
  8. Putin’s New Russia Reeks of the Old Soviet Union

    Many of the texts of Kremin-controlled media recall the rhetoric of African propagandists…Putin’s information machine—similar to those in Nazi Germany and Rwanda—is using criminal methods of propaganda and sowing hatred which generates violence and terror…People infected with hatred begin committing new crimes on their own initiative.

    and it would appear that Mr. Putin is also aware of Mr. Alinsky's tactics....just like his "flexible" enabler has mastered same:

    All the new expatriates say that Putin is tightening the noose on even the most timid and hesitant of opposition, particularly since the president’s annexation of Crimea last year.

    Accompanying this lawfare and “information terror” is what people are calling “wars of memory.” History itself is now a battleground to the president and his government. The president is now supervising, to a degree, the editing of history textbooks for schoolchildren, and making sure they describe his own success in “securing social unity and agreement” at home while “consistently defending national interests” abroad. But his interests extend to deep history as well.

    .....In Putin’s eyes, the New Russia owes a great debt to its past—its Soviet Communist past.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/ch...russia-reeks-heavily-of-the-old-soviet-union/

    Seems to pretty much sum up even the most recent LTTW!
     
  9. Putin, once critical of Stalin, now embraces Soviet dictator's tactics

    Across a resurgent Russia, Stalin lives again, at least in the minds and hearts of Russian nationalists who see Putin as heir to the former dictator's model of iron-fisted rule. Recent tributes celebrate Stalin's military command acumen and geopolitical prowess. His ruthless repression of enemies, real and imagined, has been brushed aside by today's Kremlin leader as the cost to be paid for defeating the Nazis.

    As Putin has sought to recover territory lost in the 1991 Soviet breakup, his Stalinesque claim to a right to a "sphere of influence" has allowed him to legitimize the seizure of Crimea from Ukraine and declare an obligation to defend Russians and Russian speakers beyond his nation's borders.

    On May 9, the 70th anniversary of the Allied war victory was marked and Stalin's image was put on display with glorifying war films, T-shirts, billboards and posters. Framed portraits of the mustachioed generalissimo were carried by marchers in Red Square's Victory Day parade and in the million-strong civic procession that followed to honor all who fell in what Russians call the Great Patriotic War.


    http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-russia-stalin-model-20150611-story.html#page=1

    LTTW:

    http://www.locutions.org/2014/08/3-putin-as-satans-instrument-special-locution/

    http://www.locutions.org/2014/04/poland-baltic-countries-and-european-union/

    He wants to fulfill the dreams of Stalin, the collapse of Western Europe and the emergence of Russia as the world power.
     
  10. Eamonn

    Eamonn Guest

    Putin: ‘God gave me perfect judgment’

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    HIS relations with the West have hit another low but Vladimir Putin isn’t letting that spoil his mood.


    To the contrary, the Russian President says God has blessed him with perfect judgment and he has a clean conscience.

    In a bizarre interview with Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera to coincide with his private meeting at the Vatican with the Pope, Putin said he did not regret any decisions he had made in his life.

    “I will be quite frank with you. I cannot recollect anything of the kind,” he said when asked if he had any regrets.

    “By the grace of God, I have nothing to regret in my life.”

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    Putin said God had “clearly” built his life “in a way that I won’t have anything to regret.”

    It was a whirlwind visit to Rome for Putin, who was 90 minutes late to his meeting with the Pope after flying from Milan.
     
  11. jjg77

    jjg77 Guest

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/28/whos-godless-now-russia-says-its-us/print/

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    Who’s ‘godless’ now? Russia says it’s U.S.
    Putin seizes on issue of traditional values

    By Marc Bennetts - Special to The Washington Times - - Tuesday, January 28, 2014
    MOSCOW — At the height of the Cold War, it was common for American conservatives to label the officially atheist Soviet Union a "godless nation."

    More than two decades on, history has come full circle, as the Kremlin and its allies in the Russian Orthodox Church hurl the same allegation at the West.

    "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values," Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a recent keynote speech. "Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation."

    In his state of the nation address in mid-December, Mr. Putin also portrayed Russia as a staunch defender of "traditional values" against what he depicted as the morally bankrupt West. Social and religious conservatism, the former KGB officer insisted, is the only way to prevent the world from slipping into "chaotic darkness."

    As part of this defense of "Christian values," Russia has adopted a law banning "homosexual propaganda" and another that makes it a criminal offense to "insult" the religious sensibilities of believers.

    The law on religious sensibilities was adopted in the wake of a protest in Moscow's largest cathedral by a female punk rock group against the Orthodox Church's support of Mr. Putin. Kremlin-run television said the group's "demonic" protest was funded by "some Americans."

    Mr. Putin's views of the West were echoed this month by Patriarch Kirill I of Moscow, the leader of the Orthodox Church, who accused Western countries of engaging in the "spiritual disarmament" of their people.

    In particular, Patriarch Kirill criticized laws in several European countries that prevent believers from displaying religious symbols, including crosses on necklaces, at work.

    "The general political direction of the [Western political] elite bears, without doubt, an anti-Christian and anti-religious character," the patriarch said in comments aired on state-controlled television.

    "We have been through an epoch of atheism, and we know what it is to live without God," Patriarch Kirill said. "We want to shout to the whole world, 'Stop!'"

    Other figures within the Orthodox Church have gone further in criticizing the West. Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, a church spokesman, suggested that the modern-day West is no better for a Christian believer than the Soviet Union.

    Soviet authorities executed some 200,000 clergy and believers from 1917 to 1937, according to a 1995 presidential committee report. Thousands of churches were destroyed, and those that survived were turned into warehouses, garages or museums of atheism.

    "The separation of the secular and the religious is a fatal mistake by the West," the Rev. Chaplin said. "It is a monstrous phenomenon that has occurred only in Western civilization and will kill the West, both politically and morally."

    The Kremlin's encouragement of traditional values has sparked a rise in Orthodox vigilantism. Fringe groups such as the Union of Orthodox Banner Bearers, an ultraconservative movement whose slogan is "Orthodoxy or Death," are gaining prominence.

    Patriarch Kirill has honored the group's leader, openly anti-Semitic monarchist Leonid Simonovich, for his services to the Orthodox Church. The Banner Bearers, who dress in black paramilitary uniforms festooned with skulls, regularly confront gay and liberal activists on the streets of Moscow.

    Although Mr. Putin has never made a secret of what he says is his deep Christian faith, his first decade in power was largely free of overtly religious rhetoric. Little or no attempt was made to impose a set of values on Russians or lecture to the West on morals.

    However, since his inauguration for a third presidential term in May 2012, the increasingly authoritarian leader has sought to reach out to Russia's conservative, xenophobic heartland for support.

    It has proved a rich hunting ground.

    "Western values, from liberalism to the recognition of the rights of sexual minorities, from Catholicism and Protestantism to comfortable jails for murderers, provoke in us suspicion, astonishment and alienation," Yevgeny Bazhanov, rector of the Russian Foreign Ministry's diplomatic academy, wrote in a recent essay.

    Analysts suggest that Mr. Putin's shift to ultraconservatism and anti-West rhetoric was triggered by mass protests against his rule that rocked Russia in 2011 and 2012. The unprecedented show of dissent was led mainly by educated, urban Muscovites — many with undisguised pro-Western sympathies.

    "This is the government's response to modernized Russians becoming more defiant and independent," said Maria Lipman, an analyst with the Moscow-based Carnegie Center. "The government is pitting the conservative majority against the liberal minority. As a result, raging anti-Western ideology has now turned into something that is almost a state ideology."

    Ms. Lipman, however, suggested that Mr. Putin may be wary of expressing too much support for the Orthodox Church — "a symbol of Russian statehood" — lest it someday challenge his authority.

    Some 70 percent of Russians define themselves as Orthodox Christians in opinion polls, and opposition figures in the past have called on the church to play a mediating role between the Kremlin and protesters.

    "Because of Putin's shift to conservatism, the church may feel more emboldened," Ms. Lipman said. "So Putin does not overemphasize the church in speeches, preferring to concentrate on talk of traditional values. He is wary of boosting its support even higher."
     
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  12. Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World":

    Children of the Light
    June 19: 1. Children of the Locutions

    June 20: 2. Becoming a Child of the Locutions

    June 21: 3. Clothing the Children of Locutions

    June 22: 4. Children of Fatima and of the Locutions

    June 23: 5. Our Lady's Army of Disciples

    June 24: 6. Preparing for the Fatima Moment

    June 25: 7. Why Children of the Locutions?

    http://www.locutions.org/category/children-of-the-light/
     
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  13. Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World"

    Receiving the Light (cont'd)
    June 26: 1. How to Receive the Light

    June 27: 2. Receiving the Light

    June 28: 3. Releasing Waves of Darkness

    June 29: 4. The Deluge and the American Mainstream

    June 30: 5. Setting America Aside

    July 1: 6. The Great and Unconquerable Gulf

    http://www.locutions.org/category/receiving-the-light/
     
  14. Theophobos

    Theophobos New Member

    These messages have subsequently been removed, and there hasn't been any updates in a while. Doesn't seem to bode well for their authenticity.

    A shame, I was hoping for them to be legitimate.
     
  15. The LTTW Admin has said that it's due to "just a glitch" and messages will be back soon. Interesting, people have noticed, how the last message now up is about the Iran agreement. Hmmm. There have been instances in the past when a grouping of messages had their main title changed and the change wasn't altered in the system so people got an "Error" notice. Some people aren't computer geeks! Heaven can speak to us in a unique way which may also be quite ordinary via our "systems" errors these days! ;)
     
  16. Finally......Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World".

    The Imminent Trials (cont'd)
    July 3: 2. A Series of Crises

    http://www.locutions.org/category/the-imminent-trials/

    Secrets of the Immaculate Heart
    July 4: 1. Revealing God's Plan
    July 5: 2. Words Amid the Bloodshed
    July 6: 3. The Greek Vote and the Iran Treaty
    July 7: 4. The Present Plight of Mankind
    July 8: 5. Mankind At A Tipping Point
    July 9: 6. Two Years to Stir the World to Faith
    July 10: 7. Human History Entrusted to Mary's Heart

    http://www.locutions.org/category/secrets-of-the-immaculate-heart/

    The Path to Peace

    July 11: 1. Is There Any Path to Peace
    July 12: 2. Read True Devotion
    July 13: 3. Releasing a Fire of Peace
    July 14: 4. Our Lady's Daily Promise
    July 15: 5. The Iran Nuclear Treaty

    http://www.locutions.org/category/the-path-to-peace/
     
  17. Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World".

    Understanding the Fatima Message

    July 19: 1. Promises That Still Have Power
    July 20: 2. Changing the History of the World Today
    July 21: 3. Divisions But No Divorce
    July 22: 4. The Doors of My Heart
    July 23: 5. Avoiding the Annihilation of the Nations

    http://www.locutions.org/category/understanding-the-fatima-message/
     
  18. Here are the latest messages from "Locutions to the World".

    Understanding the Fatima Message (cont'd)

    July 24: 6. The Fire Will Explode in Iran (Special Locution)
    July 24: 7. The Fires of Abortions
    July 25: 8. Satan Accepts No Master
    July 26: 9. The Two Different Nights
    July 27: 10. At the End of Each Day
    July 28: 11. The Congressional Vote (Special Locution)
    July 28: 12. Fires Within the House
    July 29: 13. Today's Light

    http://www.locutions.org/category/understanding-the-fatima-message/
     

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