Locutions - Msgr John Esseff

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by ellabellastella, Jan 23, 2015.

  1. I am sure most have heard of Msgr. and his being the messenger of private locutions concerning our times. If not, please visit,www.locutions.org
    Together with what Our Mother supposedly is lovingly telling us about the upcoming anniversary of Fatima, has anyone mentioned the "sign" in relation to the Miracle of the Sun and any correlation to that miracle and the so-called Planet X?
    Just a thought of how that fits in the anniversary.
     
  2. Denmomof3

    Denmomof3 Principalities

    I believe he is the spiritual director of the person/messenger who is receiving these locutions. I may be wrong about this.
     
  3. Thank you and yes, he is as well as a demonologist. St. Padre Pio was his spiritual director! What is your opinion on the locutions?
     
  4. Sanctus

    Sanctus Guest

    Hi Ellabellastella, I have been following these locutions for the past 15 months. They were recommended to me by a very reliable priest. I have found them very helpful and continue to follow them.
     
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  5. While they are our reality and, therefore, disquieting, they do offer love and care from Our Mother and Her Son. What is your opinion on the similarities between Fatima and everything that Our Lady speaks of?
     
  6. Sanctus

    Sanctus Guest

    She speaks a lot of impending economic collapse and also talks about the "annihilation of the nations" as mentioned in Fatima. Recent locutions have said that She has a special priest that is going to reveal to the world the truth about Fatima. It seems from reading the locutions that certain events are going to happen because the Fatima message has not been heeded, but that certain things will be averted if we embrace the Fatima gift. She also talk about the anniversary in 2017 as a very important time. It seems that they are fairly genuine.
     
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  7. I am slowly reading them all. Thank you all for your comments.
     
  8. Yes he is. She is a member of a prayer group within his parish and apparently been receiving messages for quite some time (more personal) prior to these which were asked to be announced to the public but which first were to be given to Msgr Esseff for him to discern and decide for public release.
     
  9. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    There seem to be three different threads where the LttW messages are currently being promoted. I find this a bit worrying as I have no doubt that they are not authentic. Some of the inconsistencies have been mentioned in one of the other threads - see http://motheofgod.com/threads/has-russia-been-consecrated-excellent-read.6944/page-4#post-78469 and I would add the 'mistake' regarding Egypt where the messages believed the Muslim Brotherhood revolution was irreversible. I did 'buy' these messages for a time but their political language has really gone way off the chart.

    But I'm commenting here particularly with regard to the linking of these messages to Mgr Esseff. The website originally linked the messages directly with Mgr Essef but now does not. Mgr Essef on his own website makes no mention of these messages and as far as I can see, no one has succeeded in getting a response from him about the messages. It seems to me to be inappropriate to be using Mgr Esseff's name as an 'authentication' of the messages.

     
  10. I say the more the merrier threads for open discussion.

    Actually what the locutions described for Egypt came about. As said, Satan "used" those of the original uprising (for the [non] Arab Spring) until he was done with them and then went on to use the Muslim Brotherhood and Army/military. The only reason the Army must be in a type of a dictatorial control over things is BECAUSE the Muslim Brotherhood continues to be a real and present danger. This substitute type of dictatorship is not what the uprising for freedom intended. The MB menace is certainly not over for whenever the opportunity arises. ISIS has set up control in northern Egypt in the Sinai and Egyptian leaders equate the MB with ISIS and that ISIS was birthed from the MB. Egyptian Foreign Minister has recently said that
    “Ultimately this extremist ideology is shared by all terrorist groups. We detect ties of cooperation between them and see a danger as it crosses borders.” And so the diabolical danger for Egypt continues. With Yemen becoming more radical along with Syria's threat and Iran being left free to continue their nuke program, watch for the Saudis as well as Turkey who are both very nervous about this to begin their own programs for a probable nuclear free for all in the region.

    And the question re: Msgr Esseff taking his name from the Locutions site has been answered several times in the various threads here....most esp. by Mother Superior 7. He's in his eighties, still very busy and away for retreats or talks et al. While his name was listed he was inundated with inquiries of various types and simply could not reply. He assured her when she was able to reach him that he is still the one who approves and publishes the locutions passed to him for discernment by the one under his spiritual direction given these messages. And he gave her his cell phone number I believe.
     
  11. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    The reversal of the 2011 Egyptian revolution was unexpected not only by the author of the LttW messages but by almost all the world's political pundits. Egypt today is ruled in a similar way to when Mubarak was in power but with its ruler having more popular support than Mubarak. It faces enormous problems, not least economic ones due to the destruction of its tourist industry, but it has the prospect of a stable future despite serious fundamentalist threats. It was interesting to read that President Sisi attended Mass in the Coptic Cathedral in Cairo this Christmas - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/07/egypt-president-sisi-coptic-christmas-mass-cairo

    I see God's protecting hand in what has happened in Egypt. Egypt provided protection for the Holy Family 2000 years ago and I believe God does not forget.
     
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  12. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    me too :)

    [I see God's protecting hand in what has happened in Egypt. Egypt provided protection for the Holy Family 2000 years ago and I believe God does not forget.[/quote]
     
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  13. Everyone of course is free to believe what he/she will. But it is Pres. el-Sisi himself who must still be guarded from the ongoing threats of the MB and ISIS gaining footholds in Egypt as well as what just happened in Yemen and who must crack down on freedoms for the sake of protection. I would hope that God's protective hand is over the entire world. And....those Coptic Christians who were burned alive in their locked churches and who are still living in fear in Egyptian MB localities may have their doubts for their ongoing protection while still believing in their Mother's intercession....as in Our Lady of Zeitoun's silent but hope filled apparitions.

    If the LTTW were so unexpecting of the military's fight against the MB (which wasn't any kind of "reversal" but a replacement by another type of dictatorship as far as the people's aspiration for complete freedom) why did they foresee the logical uprising of BOTH the MB AND the military?? hmmm?? They noted beforehand that the people's uprising was a ploy of Satan which would be discarded after the chaos was created for the entry of the MB and military which would be nothing of any sort of an "Arab Spring"....as happened in Libya as well.

    LTTW: Do you think that this will be limited to the Middle East? (And we are seeing in current days' Muslim terrorist attacks all over) Are there not large numbers of people who suffer in all parts of the world. Satan targets these people as his agents because they believe that they have little to lose. After he has used them, he quickly throws them away and empowers others who continue his works of destruction. Look at Egypt. Those who sparked the uprising are set aside because he now uses the army and the Muslim Brotherhood. And this was two years before the army got into control and the people's uprising was still hoping for a democratic type of freedom for their country after ousting one dictator:

    Despite the 2011 uprising that aimed to end the military’s grip in Egypt and give power to its civilians, the military is firmly in charge of the country again.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/08/15/199484/back-to-2011-military-is-in-control.html#storylink=cpy

    LTTW: re: Egypt's uprising for freedom:
    I know that this was their dream. They wanted a nation freed from a dictator. They wanted to freely choose their way of life and to elect those who would lead them. These are the legitimate aspirations of all people, but the powers of evil have used your aspirations for their purposes. They foresaw the situation that would exist after you toppled the dictator, the vacuum of power that would be created and the forces that would take advantage. They also saw that the spirit of protest was placed in so many hearts and that this spirit will rise again and again. The means of stirring up protests lay in the hands of those who did it the first time.

    Where is the stability of the new order? What good flows from it? People will say that this is to be expected after a revolution but I say to you that these were revolutions planned by Satan to throw your countries into even greater darkness and to prepare you for a takeover by Muslim extremists. They are the ones waiting in the wings. They are Satan’s people whom he has prepared.

    So true as ISIS is now controlling access to the north in the Sinai which forces el-Sisi to crack down on more desired freedoms of the people for the sake of security.

    And this only proves what our Lady said above about the continuing means of stirring up protests lay in the hands of those who did it the first time:

    Now, an alliance against the political shift that brought al-Sisi to power is vowing to start a fresh wave of demonstrations.

    "It is more repressive now than any time before," said Hamza Sarawy, a spokesman for the Anti-Coup Alliance. "We are now living in an era where there is no room for speech."

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/11/23/egypt-police-state-mubarak/19266761/

    Pray our Lady is brought on the scene more forcefully for the sake of the entire world....for everyone is having to limit their freedoms these days for the sake of "security".
     
  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I would like to defer once again to our Lord's message to Verne Dagenais on truth. It must be all truth or it is not of God.

    10/28/06 A.M.
    As I was praying at the adoration chapel some thoughts came to me from Jesus. My child I ask you who is here in front of you? It is I, Jesus Christ, present Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, creator of the universe. Where and why would you go else where to worship me? You have a tendency to search and read the teachings of other so- called prophets. Remember a true prophet teaches 100% of my truth no error. If you compare any messages and teachings with my Holy word and my church and they are not in agreement, then that teaching is not from the Holy Trinity. God is not the author of confusion. I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man cometh to the Father but by me. No one enters heaven without embracing all my truth. There will be no schisms or fighting in heaven. Everyone in heaven knows the truth. Do you realize one of the worst events in the history of the world was the protestant reformation. For it caused division in my church. Here is an example. If you plant a seed and do not water it, it will not grow. But if you water it, it will germinate and in the midst of a garden of flowers a weed can sprout. Many weeds can destroy gardens. So it is with my church. The author of confusion, Satan, spread doubts in my priests, like Martin Luther. Instead of rebuking these doubts, he let Satan water his doubts, weeds grew, and confusion and schism came in my church. This was not my will. Let me ask you a question how much truth do you want? 100%, 50% or 25%? Anything less then 100% of my truth will cause confusion. There is only one source of truth in the universe, the Holy Trinity, anything else comes from Satan.

    Here is a rebuke to you. When you read and study protestant ministers and prophets, who do not teach 100% of my truth, where is there source of truth coming from? It is not from Jesus. It is from their own imagination or Satan. Remember Satan loves to sow confusion. He is infinitely smarter than humans and he knows the truth. His goal is to deceive mankind. When you read a prophet who denies my church, blasphemes my blessed mother, and profanes my eucharist, why listen to that prophet, for that teaching comes from one place, the pit of hell. That is not to say I do not work through protestant ministers, because any words of mine are truth. I desire all men to be saved. But many are held in ignorance of not their own fault. But you are different. You have been presented with the whole truth. So why allow doubt and confusion to arise in your mind? If you allow Satan a small seed of doubt, he can make it grow and cause you confusion and even loss of faith. Remember you will be held accountable on the day of judgment to a higher standard for you have the fullness of truth found in the Catholic church. Reference I Corinthians 10:12 and especially for your days Matthew 24:24, "For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders, in so much as to deceive (if possible) even the elect." As the days get darker, if you do not know your faith and completelytrust in me, you will easily fall away. As evil increases the deception increases. Do not listen to every person's predictions of the future. Remember my primary purpose is the salvation of souls. All events will work out for that purpose according to my will and no one else's. You have a choice: follow false teachers, those who teach partial truth, or follow me completely. Come to me in the Blessed Sacrament and let me teach you along with my holy priests, messengers, and my church. Do not spend your time with those who teach only partial truth. Say, Jesus I trust in you and I will lead you.

    Finally, you know how to reach heaven by reception of the sacraments, following my words, and the teachings of my church. It is not your duty to try and guess who will go to heaven or hell. Your job is to proclaim my truth as revealed in my holy word and church. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy. Again, none enters my kingdom, without embracing my whole truth. For example, no one in heaven will deny my presence in the Eucharist or my Blessed Mother who is Queen of heaven and earth, no matter what belief they have on earth. You have taken many steps forward, do not go backward or you will not survive the tests coming your way and to this world. Again, let me teach you. Why would you go elsewhere, where I am not present body, blood, soul, and divinity? My peace I leave with you and bless you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Your savior and redeemer, Jesus Christ
     
  15. Just for the record. Msgr. John Esseff is still spiritual director for the messages. I have spoken to him myself. Because of his busy schedule, he was being hounded by phone calls at his parish and he travels alot ministering to seminarians all over the U.S. He is one busy man! The messages are now in book form.
     
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  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I assume you are referring to the LTTW messages, right?
     
  17. Yes. That is what we are talking about....
     

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