Third secret of Fatima is unfolding

Discussion in 'Marian Apparitions' started by garabandal, Nov 5, 2014.

  1. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Gorbachev tells the West to listen to Putin

    http://en.ria.ru/russia/20141108/19...to-Lift-Sanctions-Consider-Putins-Valdai.html

    How is this all tied in with Fatima & Garabandal prophecies?

    Fatima: In the apparition of July 13 1917 Our Lady warned the three seers that if people did not stop offending God, He would punish the world "by means of war, hunger and persecution of the Church and of the Holy Father," using Russia as His chosen instrument of chastisement.

    Mari Loli: "When Russia will unexpectedly and suddenly overrun and overwhelm a great part of the free world. God does not want this to happen so quickly.

    Putin is well aware that the world is in a precarious state - he highlights the problems (below).

    The builders of the New World Order have failed, having built a sand castle.

    Russia favors a conservative approach to introducing innovations into the social order, but is not opposed to investigating and discussing such innovations, to see if introducing any of them might be justified (a reference to homsexual marriage etc?)

    Russia does not wish for the chaos to spread, does not want war, and has no intention of starting one. However, today Russia sees the outbreak of global war as almost inevitable, is prepared for it, and is continuing to prepare for it. Russia does not war—nor does she fear it.

    Russia does not intend to take an active role in thwarting those who are still attempting to construct their New World Order—until their efforts start to impinge on Russia's key interests. Russia would prefer to stand by and watch them give themselves as many lumps as their poor heads can take. But those who manage to drag Russia into this process, through disregard for her interests, will be taught the true meaning of pain.
     
  2. The tale of 2 Russias. What if there are those in the Russian Orthodox Church who are waiting for the Miracle? Yes, certaintly they believe and are waiting for the Blessed Mother even some higher ups who haven't sold out to the Communist agenda are awaiting for Garbandal. The tale of 2 Russias.
    Moscow Patriarch awards patriarchal honor prize to top Russian Communist leader
    http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/06/moscow-patriarch-awards-patriarchal.html

    The schema laid out by Pedro Regis messages alludes to something bad, real bad that will arise from St. Petersburg. Isn't
    Putin from St. Petersburg? Pedro Regis also stipulates that "satan will give great power to Russia" If that is the case it must be either the Russian Generals and/or Putin who make a pact with satan.
    For example, the book "Fatima Code" typifies the Russian Generals embarking in some satanic rituals. To bring you up to speed, Hollywood oracles hint at in the movie X Men 4 the Russian General shakes hands with satan. The devil always show his tail out of pride and Hollywood is one of his venues.
    Just as the messages of Pedro Regis laid out Russia has made deals with China and even Islam. That is why when you read the prophecies of Bl. Sister Elena you note Russia will come from the north to Rome and Islam from the south. Pedro Regis is specific here regarding the Islamic army. It will come from Mecca, they will be enraged due to their rubic cube thingy has been messed with. The army will be made up of different groups principally from Yemen (note the distablization). They will arrive via boat in S. Italy and Pedro indicates they will travel up the Via Appia. Holy Virgin Mary states that it will be the worst army ever in terms of atroticities so bad that Our Lord anticipates "the day of Judgement" (My own take is that Pope Benedict was sending a message by canonizing the 800 martyrs of Islam, Benedict left us many clues including the Beatification of Sister Elena). So the 2 armies meet in Rome. The Communist flag will be placed over the Vatican as St. Kolbe prophecied. It will appear that satan has won. However the Consecration is done by the Pope and guess what? Russia per Pedro Regis hunts down every Islamic man that committed the atrocities even following them back to the Middle East.
    Gorbachev stole 100 million from the struggling Russians when he left and set up shop in the Presidio to push his New Age/NWO agenda he also was in attendance in Rome 2000 when the 3rd Secret was partially revealed. I trust him as far as I can throw him.

    'Did the gates of Hell open up in Moscow?' ask Russian noses
    2014 4:18 PM
    http://news.yahoo.com/russians-complain-mysterious-stench-moscow-211638647.html
     
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  3. I have mentioned this before on this forum. The queen of Peace at Medjugorje said "The Russian people will come to glorify God the most; the West has made civilization progress but with out God and act as if they are their own creators" This is the greatest prophecy of our times - Look at Russia read the news. It is now Russia agains the west. It is Russia who is building and restoring churches and monasteries . The great prophecy is unfolding before our eyes.
     
  4. garabandal

    garabandal Powers


  5. Indeed... But is Russia on God's side or not... Russia acts and talks more about God, and Our Lady than does the west. The great prophecy is unfolding.
     
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  6. Blue Horizon

    Blue Horizon Guest

    Perhaps it would be more balanced to say "The seers at Medjugorje reported that their Queen of Peace said..."

    Re "It is Russia who is building and restoring churches and monasteries"
    Well I suppose God can be glorified externally by those whose hearts are far from God.
    I think we would be mistaken to think that those Churches/monasteries are Catholic ones.
    My understanding is that Russia only provides material support to the Russian Orthodox Church - if you won't join up under their authority then its poverty for you.
    Jehovah's Witnesses get actively persecuted.

    State control of a population and their minds by means of strong, national social institutions (including religion) is an ancient political strategy.
    A sophisticated Atheistic Government is quite capable of using religion for its own socio/political purposes.

    Its more efficient to control the masses by internalised authority rather than external force/fear.
     
  7. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    The Third Secret of Fatima
    (This article was originally given as a talk by Frère Michel de la Sainte Trinité at the Vatican Symposium on Fatima
    http://catholicism.org/the-third-secret-of-fatima.html

    New General Prior of Carthusians
    Stat crux dum volvitur orbis

    He was a late vocation to the Carthusians. Previously he was occupied much with Fatima and appearances of the Mother of God.
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    (kreuz.net) Dom François Marie Velut O. Carth. was selected on this Friday 10:00 as the 73rd General Prior of the Carthusians. The election was unanimous.
    Member of another Order
    The newly elected was christened Michel Velut on the 30th of December 1948. From 1970 to 1989 he was a member of the community of "the Little Brothers of the Heart of Jesus", which was inspired by St. Charles de Foucauld (+1916).
    He was called Brother Michel of the Holy Trinity.
    A Fatima Expert
    Brother Michel, according to the blog has researched Marian apparitions over many years. In a four year research phase he devoted himself to the Third Secret of Fatima and published several books about it. On the occasion of a Vatican symposium on Fatima, he gave a lecture on the 24th of November 1985.
    At 41 he Became a Carthusian
    In December 1989 he left his community and entered the Grande Chatreuse -- the mother cloister of the Carthusians -- in the French Alps by Grenoble. He postponed his simple vows until the 25th of December in 1991. Later he took the office of Procurator, which cared for the material affairs of the Carthusians and keeping straight its contacts with the world. Finally, he became Secretary of the Order.
    Exchange in the Charterhouse of Portes
    In June 2001 he became Prior and Novice Master in the Charterhouse of Portes (Chartreuse Notre-Dame de Portes). It is located in the vicinity of the 300 population village of Benonces -- between Lyon and Genf. He has held this office up until Friday. Portes is the first foundation of the Grande Chartreuse. Because of its members, it is also called the "Charterhouse of the Saints". Dom Velut has led his community to a certain blossoming.
    The Whole Life is in Celebration
    The Italian blog 'cartusialover.wordpress.com' cited the new General Prior with the following words: "Despite the great strain, the freedom of the Carthusian life gives the feeling that all of life is a holiday."
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    This is the finest writings on the subject I have ever encountered..and by someone who is quite clearly a saint himself.

    Thank God for plain speaking. Poor Sr Lucia, how she must have suffered.
     
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  9. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Nice post Fatima . A little surprised as only a couple of weeks ago you said...I am not going to continue to defend/argue whether the Consecration to Russia has been fullfilled or not. It does not bring peace. It will all be manifested soon enough. I don't feel it is the will of God to argue endlessly about the 3rd secret of Fatima or the Consecration of Russia. What has been said, has been said. Time for penance and prayer
     
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  10. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    I absolutely agree with what Fatima wrote a couple of weeks ago, and I'm also grateful he brought this article to our attention. It underscores what he previously said, "It will all be manifest soon enough." This brilliant piece of writing is for me a battle cry to double my efforts to do my part, especially the first Saturdays and as many rosaries as I can give our Mother. It does not encourage me to argue - but to act.
     
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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Mac, arguing ones own point aimlessly serves no end. To bring light to a subject with new clarity from saintly people is another. I hold that neither the 3rd secret or consecration of Russia has been fully manifested, but one should not beat a dead horse with unpersusuasive arguement as often becomes the case. I think you know the differnece I speak of.
     
  12. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    After reading this article http://catholicism.org/the-third-secret-of-fatima.html something hit me. It seems all the Popes since John XXIII have read the 3rd secret of Fatima. Knowing the secrets deals with Russian led war, if the conseration of the Immaculate Heart of Mary did not take place, and the 3rd secret of Fatima (with what scritpure calls the great apsostasy), it seems the popes were put inbetween a rock and a hard place. After reading the 3rd secret of Fatima the popes were given a keen understanding of the mass exodus of the church faithful in fear of the persucution that would happen after the consecration of Russia takes place. Most will blame the Church hierarchy and faithful for causing Russia to start the war of all wars (nuclear) because of the consecration. Most will flee the Church for fear of retribution from the apostates and the world (thus the church becoming very small as Pope Benedict prophecised). Is this why Pope John XXIII and Paul XI gave us Vat II and John Paul II gave us the Catholic Catechism and numberous encyclical's, so as to know our faith in these times? Much to pray for and discern.
     
  13. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Ali Agca...27/12/2014
    "We are at the end of the world"
    "I came today because December 27 is the day of my meeting with the Pope. I returned to the place of the miracle. Here was made the third secret of Fatima. I do with the attack on the Pope I performed a miracle," said Ali Agca in an exclusive interview to the microphones of AdnKronos in St. Peter's Square, before going to the tomb of John Paul II.Then added to be back "after 34 years to shout that we are at the end of the world. Our Lady of Fatima has announced the end of the world" (images AdnKronos)


    Whats this all about?
     
  14. Torrentum

    Torrentum Guest

    Is hard to take anything he says seriously.
    He actually mentioned this end of the world stuff in 2005 as well.
    Though he did claim to be the Messiah too....
     
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  15. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    OH, I see. A complete nutjob then . Thanks Torrentum.
     
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  16. Torrentum

    Torrentum Guest

    Watching the news today reminded me of what Fr Malachy said about Kiev.
    Scary to see ceasefire after ceasefire fail. Where will it end?
    Will Putin stop after he captures the next city? Will he take E. Ukraine to create a land bridge to the newly annexed Crimea? Will he march to Kiev? Munich? Paris?
    Pray. Much prayer is needed.
     
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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes its a little like sleep walking to the grave.
     
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  18. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    People like Cardinal Bertone and many others who believed him when he said that the Fatima message has been completed, must be scratching their head about now. The Fatima messages is just now unfolding and we have only see the beginning fruits of the message.
     
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  19. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Putin's response is headline news BBC!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31511926
     
  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Thing is, the whole world knows the POTUS is not going to do a thing about world terror. Lip service is all he will give and the leaders of these rouge nations know it. No one else to stop it now.
     
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