Sister Cristina

Discussion in 'Music' started by Fatima, Apr 19, 2014.

  1. little me

    little me Archangels

    I didn't even watch the video, ugh. Doesn't that song say "touched for the very first time"? From a nun....this is so disgusting.
     
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  2. Carmel333

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    I listened out of curiosity. She does make it sound more like being "touched" more in the spiritual sense. You know like when someone does a very kind thing and it is touching. But still, can't see the point of it at all. Reminds me of the silly songs we sing at mass a lot now, that no longer praise God (in my mind, like the old Catholic Hymns did) but rather have a pop tone and sing about stuff like "all are welcome". Very protestant sounding to me as it's like singing to each other for a warm fuzzy than actually worshipping God. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. padraig

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    I believe the Sister is using this song and in a spiritual sense used by Catholic mystics for centuries and more as the soul being a Virgin, touched by Christ the Bridegroom.

    I find this very beautiful.

    John 3:22-30
    22 After this, Jesus and his disciples went out into the Judean countryside, where he spent some time with them, and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing at Aenon near Salim, because there was plenty of water, and people were coming and being baptized. 24 (This was before John was put in prison.) 25 An argument developed between some of John’s disciples and a certain Jew over the matter of ceremonial washing. 26 They came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, that man who was with you on the other side of the Jordan—the one you testified about—look, he is baptizing, and everyone is going to him.”


    27 To this John replied, “A person can receive only what is given them from heaven. 28 You yourselves can testify that I said, ‘I am not the Messiah but am sent ahead of him.’ 29 The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him, and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete. 30 He must become greater; I must become less.”


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  4. miker

    miker Powers

    Padraig, I think you are spot on. This is not the first time a pop song can be viewed from a religious/spiritual perspective. In any event, I think Deacon Greg provides a good perspective in his blog:

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deacon...r-cristina-turns-like-a-virgin-into-a-prayer/
     
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  5. Bartimaeus

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    I wasn't going to watch it until I saw Padraig's comments... so I watched it, and I agree with Padraig. There is nothing sleazy or salacious in it.

    Let's be honest here (please be warned I'm about to start a rant)
    the 'Church' has waxed lyrical about the virginal state of it's women for eons, but never gives a mention to the virginal state of it's men.
    If virginity is such a big deal surely it cuts both ways.

    We are left in no doubt about the virginal state of Catherine of Siena, Edith Stein, etc, etc. But it's not worth commenting on for Padre Pio, St Francis etc, etc.

    If this version of this song troubles anyone, then I recommend they say well clear of Song of songs in the Old Testament.:censored:
     
  6. Bartimaeus

    Bartimaeus Archangels

    Sr. Cristina's video was a breath of fresh air for me as I had only just watched a program I recorded from RTE (first mistake!).
    The program was about Mission Sunday... roll out a couple of missionaries... and lo and behold we have a white haired nun who doesn't agree with her church re. gay people 'but neither does Pope Francis' she says!!!!!!!!!
    She's on at 06.20 to 07.24 in the video.
    http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10334842/

    Truly sickening - but hey RTE can't make a progam without a gay agenda can they? Aaaaaaaaargh!
     
  7. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
    There is zero chance of allowing my daughters to watch ,listen ,and repeat these lyrics. Inspired by the devil no doubt.
     
  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Even when Madonna used to sing it , I thought the lyrics had a double edge of both beauty and ugliness.

    Two men staring from prison bars , one saw mud the other stars.

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  9. Adoremus

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  10. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    Its the youth that really watch this sort of thing ,and are formed by what they see and hear
     
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  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I would wager to bet that those who have a problem with how Pope Francis has chosen to reach out to the wayward in the world are the same ones that might have a problem with Sister Cristina's way to reach out to those who see the Church as hard. While what she is doing is not traditional, it is uplifting to many who may need a glipse of a Church that has a different way to express its love of God. Lets not judge her 'out of the box' way that she can open up doors to God from a place where so many are at.
     
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  12. Carmel333

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    I don't think this is at all the same thing. I don't have a problem with what Sister Christina is doing, but I do fail to see the purpose. If you think the movie Sister Act converted the millions who love the movie back into Church then by all means, go for it Sister Christina! I think all the points mentioned are valid in this thread. No if I had young daughters I would not put this in front of them as inspirational music. I don't think it's appropriate at all. She is a nun. Would she really perform this standing in front of our Blessed Mother? I doubt it...
     
  13. Bartimaeus

    Bartimaeus Archangels

    To Carmel and Mac:
    Have you watched Sr. Cristina's video?

    Have you read the Song of Songs lately?
     
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  14. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    I think she would, as the words she sings could surely be heart fealt in a spiritual way, not a secular way as the singer madonna intended.
     
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  15. Adoremus

    Adoremus Powers

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  16. padraig

    padraig Powers

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  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think maybe when people don't pray or don't pray very much they get bored with their Vocation and seek other pastures through innovations.

    They start to flay around a lot. Being a Priest or Nun is never enough. They start to Dream other Dreams.

    Then they float up to the sky and far, far away...into their dreams.

     
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  18. garabandal

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    Fr Ray Kelly of the Church of nice.

    Say only nice things.

    Be nice.

    That's the goal of life to be nicer and nicer.
     
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  19. Agnes McAllister

    Agnes McAllister Archangels

    Yes I saw Father in a video at a wedding Mass. But it seems a career would definitely get in the way of his Holy Orders.
     
  20. Byron

    Byron Powers

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