I think we know your views from countless earlier lengthy posts, earthangels How about just letting people hear and make their own discernment of an alternative view...
Sorry, don't see where they haven't been able to do that here. IOW, freedom for me and not for thee. Just attempting to keep people from falling for something without the additional facts that could....possibly, with the reasonable....make a difference in their thinking. I'm older and have seen these tricks play out for many decades. But some still have to learn the hard way. I pray each day for my guardian angel to do the same for me. And sometimes, sound bites, just don't do the trick.
Basically, the young Ukranians come home in body bags, their fields are under planted/harvested, their currency is going down the toilet, their debt to the NWO (I mean western zionist bankers) has gone thru the roof, they will be lucky to have heat this winter, all of this, for the new world order as George H Bush stated. Earthtoangels, maybe , just maybe, we are the commies now, only time will tell.
Don't let yourself go over the bend. Greece and Spain got into similar debt situations and the Germans basically bailed them out....at least once. Ukraine, like so many others trying to keep their heads above water STILL choose to be free but ask only for some assistance from the West to fight the good fight. I applaud them. The German population just sees them as another Greece and don't want to do another bail out due to the EU's own economic perils. They shouldn't be left though to be put in chains once again. At least give them some way to defend their freedoms even if you don't want to get personally involved. I mean, if we can arm the Muslim Brotherhood to commit such atrocities, I think we can back the good fight of our supposed friends. Then maybe so many won't have to come home in body bags because they won't have to be the victims of their current foreign larger army invaders.
Putin 'privately threatened to invade Poland, Romania and the Baltic states' German newspaper Suddeutsche Zeitung reports that Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko told European Commission that Putin made the threat in a recent conversation President Vladimir Putin privately threatened to invade Poland, Romania and the Baltic states, according to a record of a conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart. "If I wanted, in two days I could have Russian troops not only in Kiev, but also in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw and Bucharest," Mr Putin allegedly told President Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine, reported Süddeustche Zeitung, a German newspaper. ........... Mr Putin's alleged threat bears similarities to remarks he made to Jose Manuel Barroso, the president of the European Commission, in which he warned: "If I want to, I can take Kiev in two weeks". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ade-Poland-Romania-and-the-Baltic-states.html
.Somebody earlier wrote.: ".at a time now when "Russia" by name is seen to be a big time aggressor on the world scene, already trying to swallow up a separate sovereign nation." USA invaded Iraq, then left the country in ruin. American citizens will watch their football this weekend and they will support our troops in the stands but they won't spend a second morning the people of Iraq - the country WE INVADED, the country we destoyed. Worse than invading Iraq, we empowered the religious extremist ISIS by toppling a secular government that hated them and Al Queda. The United States of America is either really evil or really stupid. Now we prepared to arm and support "vetted" rebels in Syria. Please tell me how arming rebels who are fighting the Government of Syria is different than Russia defending its interests in Ukraine. USA is the most agressive nation in the world and have been for decades.
Well, we haven't "vetted" anyone; we haven't trained any future "vetted" rebels which would have to take place in Saudi Arabia and such a process to just get so called trusted rebels there by our special forces (which also has not been planned or accepted) would take over a year and a half by military estimates. So that's all talk, as is usual for this regime. Then, obviously Ukraine did not threaten Russia and Russia has no business or "interests" in an independent sovereign nation. The Iraq War was predicated, rightly or wrongly, on the notion that the past war with Saddam had failed and containment would fail, and that after 9/11 it was the proper time to end a sponsor of global terrorism that should have been ended in 1991 — a decision that, incidentally, would save Kurdistan and allow it to turn into one of the most successful and pro-American regions in the Middle East. The current regime here has purposely destroyed the successes that were achieved by great sacrifice in the war that apparently represented a defense of our country to the free people here whose representatives on both sides voted to enter on their behalf. Russian people are not free to decide anything. That destruction of achieved goals and the following traitorous actions of informing the enemy of future plans of withdrawal (both in Iraq and Afghanistan)....when, how and number of troops to be left behind as sitting ducks...thus offering aid and comfort to the enemy is what opened a huge "state" training ground for ISIS to develop with no counter defense, and their subhuman terror tactics have been what had threatened their new recruits from even having a thought of countering them since, due to Obama's decision, no equal force was left to defend them. The Iraqi army just took off after seeing such ISIS atrocities that all world leaders describe as totally diabolical and never seen before in known history to this scale. ISIS had been developing via Al Qaeda due to the greater threat to them/Sunnis of Iran's developing nuclear bomb which state is also supporting Assad in Syria (and Hamas in Gaza)....both backed by Russia. Be it Shia or Sunni, all terror factions there are the destroying enemies (along with Russia) of Israel and the U.S. Ukraine, again, was/is no threat to Russia. Of those who come to the defense of Russian Communism, be it there, Cuba, Venezuela, or other populist dictatorships never seem to want to stop feeding off of what the American system offers them....to even vacation in those chosen "utopian" spots. Again, the growing diabolical threat of our world today cannot be solved by any human leaders and their actions....only when it turns back to Mary's Son, Jesus; converts; prays and fasts can any of this horror be solved by an intervention of God Himself.
Earth Angel.. I have know idea what you are saying...To me you seem to view things as they were 50 years ago when Russia was a communist country. Things change, they change fast. 1984 Russia was consecrated, communism fell. The important thing to know is that all of the USA experts missed the peaceful fall of communism. Understand that NOBODY in USA understands what is happening in Russia.
I'm sorry that you are not familiar with current history or refuse apparently to accept the actual happenings pertaining to Russia. Unless you are just being sarcastic....but I don't think so. Russia was not consecrated unless you have a different formula that was used just for yourself. Now are you really saying that Russia is today not Communist? And, well, I am in the USA and I understand what is happening with Russia. Under Communism the elitists were the privileged people in power who got the goodies like dachas, etc. That evolved into established oligarchies that attempt to rival the Communist leadership. So, since there certainly is no peace around Russia but rather the beginning of recreating their holdings from before the break up of the Soviet Union, the Fatima message re: Russia spreading its errors around the world (now in the Middle East as well big time) continues. All I can say for you is to visit the eastern Ukraine and see if what is happening is the fruit of a "peaceful fall of communism". Then talk to the people in the other countries in the region being threatened by another Russian invasion and takeover and register their fear on your radar which doesn't appear to be working too well.
This is not a political forum to rant and rave about politics. So let us stick to spiritually related matters.
I can't resist using one of my favourite words in the English language here, earthtoangels This quote from your latest lecture is a classic oxymoron: "I am in the USA and I understand what is happening with Russia"
Sorry, garabandal, I wrote my latest at the same time you wrote this. However, I would say that it is going to be difficult to keep politics out of this matter as the many posts about whether or not the Consecration has been done inevitably bring in events in Russia. The collapse of Communism 1988-1990 (which sadly seems to be denied by many on this forum), a miracle for which we should be thanking God, is inevitably a political matter as well as a spiritual one.
No problems David. I have a feeling this thread has run its course as inevitably politics will be involved - but I do see the old problem of polarized positions that aren't going to be placated. Personally if I was a moderator I would have closed this thread already. Time for my morning prayers. Peace to all.
Russia Threatens Denmark That Its Warships Could Be Subject To Nuclear Attack http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ts-warships-could-become-nuclear-targets.html
Surely, conventional missiles would take out the Danish fleet? Russia is certainly sending a clear message to the West that they are prepared to go down the path of nuclear conflict.
This is just the same BS Cold War Saber Rattling that anyone old enough to remember the Bad Old Days of the 48-89 Cold War. Putin is doing his best to re-kindle those Bad Old Days and with nothing but "Signs" of Weakness, Incompetence and Moral/Fiscal Bankruptcy in the USA/EU he has/will "Get Away" with re-establishing the old Russian sphere of influence! I'm MUCH MORE afraid of Islamic Terrorists with Nukes and Biological Weapons ... who, for years, have been working hand-n-hand with North Korea ... and just what happened to Russia's "Loose Nukes" after the fall of the Soviet Union ...and, lately, those missing airplanes in North Africa ..... and China doing her best to destabilize the Pacific..... and I think I've told you folks about my "Crazy" Prayers. One goes something like this: Heavenly Father, would you please send Jesus, The Holy Ghost and St Michael with the Heavenly Host down here to "Clean Up" this mess we have made! ... and Please Lord! Not as the Celestial Army of a Just Judge but that of the God of Mercy. AMEN!!!
Just thinking the same thing...its the bully that knows it can get away with it. The Moment we drew a line and didn't follow up on it caused this situation. Russia has its own internal problems...that will probably get worst. By the way i like your prayer. I will pray for you and your family Brother al
[quote="fallen saint, I will pray for you and your family Brother al[/quote] Back "At Ya" Bro Al ... and Thanks for assuring me that if we end up in the same "Foxhole" you would be watching my Six! GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
HI GLENN!!! Something tat as always bothered me about the consecration is the video of chief exorcist of Rome Father Gabriel Amorth. He headed the organization of the 1984 consecration and was right next to the Pope and Father Amorth says in the video.....that the Holy Father kept asking ....CAN I SAY RUSSIA SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONSECRATION? Pope John Paul II was told NO over and over.....DO NOT MENTION RUSSIA because there were several polital leaders present and Holy Father was told NO . Now......this is Father Gabriel Amorth giving this testimony about the Fatima consecration. Why would he lie? If you need the video link .....just ask and I'll send it but it's pretty easy to find on YouTube. Now.....of course I don't speak ITALIAN and Father Amorth is speaking Italian and the voice over is in English......but I'm sure if you speak Italian and you watch the video....you can see wether or not Father is really saying these things. Also.....but I'm sorry......I don't believe that the Lucia that was present in photos in the 80's and 90's and the one in the coffin is the real sister Lucia. My cousin worked for a plastic surgeon for 10 yrs and she says it's impossible that the pics of sister Lucia before 1960 is the same woman in the photos in the 80's due to te facial structure ....nose and chin to be specific. Now......I am not accusing Popes of a cover up.....they probably had no idea if it was truly her or not. But we know from many men in the church and Father Gabriel Amorth himself.....that there are men....high up in the church who are against the church and God. Freemasons etc communists etc..... I don't believe the Popes were part of a cover up etc. but I sure don't believe that the Sister Lucia of latter years was the same.
