Does no one see the ebola threat

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by fallen saint, Aug 9, 2014.

  1. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    CNN
    College Student is the first case of Ebola in Venezuela.
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    Caracas, Venezuela .- The first case officially reported in Venezuela is the young student Arturo Jose Mancera Higuis. Joseph is a student at the University of Venezuela who three weeks ago was a lecture from a contest I won in school, students travel to New York, United States. His return was on September 8, a few days ago; and immediately they began to show symptoms of the terrible disease.
    Today was officially unveiled by a health institute statement that the first case of Ebola has come to Venezuela and we have to take precautionary measures to prevent an outbreak that goes out of control.
    The young student is already in quarantine in the hospital being treated with the necessary steps to prevent a pandemic.
    Unfortunately, it took a little longer than 3 days for the detection of Ebola in Joseph and other people are afraid that infected by the same virus. Family and close to José people are already under medical evaluation and until now no one else is infected. However, the young man went to college yesterday all morning and interaction that could have come to be at the airport to return to Venezuela threatening to the general population. The government of President invited to share this note as we can with all our contacts to alert the population and also invited to take the necessary precautions for the virus.
    It is recommended to pay close attention and be alert for any symptoms of ebola.
    The incubation period of this disease ranges from two to 21 days, after which the onset of symptoms of Ebola occurs, although it is most common that occur between the eighth and tenth day:

    • Sudden high fever.
    • Headache.
    • Joint discomfort and severe muscle aches.
    • Sore throat and generalized weakness.
    • Diarrhea, vomiting and stomach pain.
    • Appearance of a red rash on the skin.
    • Conjunctival injection (red eyes).
    • Impaired renal and hepatic function.
    • In some affected can be observed internal and external bleeding.
     
  2. BrianK

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    Venezuela on alert over mysterious, deadly disease
    Author: Helena Poleo, View from Venezuela Contributing Columnist, hpoleo@influencecomm.com
    Published On: Sep 17 2014 10:15:49 AM EDT Updated On: Sep 17 2014 10:17:25 AM EDT
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    The deaths of 10 people in the past week of a mysterious disease in several cities in Venezuela, including the capital of Caracas, have caused panic within the population and has prompted doctors to sound the alarm.

    A government spokesman minimized the warnings and described efforts to notify the public of a disease that has killed four adults and four children as a "campaign of disinformation and terrorism."

    Despite the government's indifference, the country's doctors insist there is plenty of reason for concern about a highly dangerous and contagious disease of unknown origin.

    "We do not know what it is," admitted Duglas León Natera, president of the Venezuelan Medical Federation.

    In its initial stages, the disease presents symptoms of fever and spots on the skin, and then produces large blisters and internal and external bleeding, according to data provided week stop by the College of Physicians of the state of Aragua, where the first cases were reported.

    Then, very quickly, patients suffer from respiratory failure, liver failure and kidney failure. Venezuelan doctors have not been able to determine what the disease is, much less how to fight it.

    The government has denied the existence of "a mysterious disease" and described the information provided by the doctors as a "media campaign against Venezuela."

    The governor of the state of Aragua, Tarek El-Aissami and Communications Minister Delcy Rodriguez, refer to the warnings as a "defamatory" strategy to "distress to the population."

    Some theories being examined include the possibility that the disease could be a new type of very aggressive and severe dengue, an atypical version of the Chikunguña fever or an Ebola virus appearance in Venezuela.
     
  3. fallen saint

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    :( will pray tonight for your babies

    Brother al
     
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  4. Bonaventure

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    starting my rosary Heidi and they will be in my prayers....God Bless....keep me posted!
     
  5. MMM

    MMM Guest

    Just to add to the ISIS fear propaganda as mentioned by Jon, do you really think these knuckleheads are going to have a full glossy magazine, a highly produced HD movie trailer and a video game trailer......I would argue that more than just hyping the facts they are indeed embellishing the whole fear ISIS narrative with these things. The psychological fear campaign has been going on so long it's becoming silly if not laughable.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/17/world/meast/isis-magazine/
    http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/...-video-styled-after-war-movie-trailer/380335/
    http://rt.com/news/188788-isis-video-game-youtube/
     
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  6. FatimaPilgrim

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    You don't think ISIS is real? Our Pope has called for them to be stopped, do you think Pope Francis is part of this hype machine?

    There is real evil in the world. ISIS is slaughtering Christians by the thousands Ebola is rapidly spreading. Radical Islamists are truly stalking Israel seeking their destruction. Everything is not a govt conspiracy.
     
  7. MMM

    MMM Guest

    I do believe there is a group of radical muslims especially in Iraq, where the US military has spent the last 10 years helping create by invading without just cause and killing 1000's upon 1000's. Do I believe they call themselves ISIS or ISIL, nope, this is pure marketing propaganda and sheeple consumption. They needed to drop the al Qaeda label since they started supporting them and that didn't look good. Do I think this group made the pics, videos, games, magazine.....nope, same thing. The U.S. and Israel need an enemy so they use propaganda to create something huge out of something relatively small. You are being programmed, it's not a conspiracy therory it's been going on for the last 50-75+ years and only getting worse. It's a fear campaign and if it makes you scared it's working. If God demands I die of heart attack, cancer, virus, accident, or even terrorist attack what can I do about it? Fear is exactly what Jesus said not to retain. He also said not to hate your enemy but pray for them.

    Let's not forget the slaughter of 1500 innocent Palistinians just a couple months ago and the 100's of thousands killed in Iraq the last 10 years. Anyone thinking these are rightous "self defense" killings is delusional.

    The US couldn't attack Syria and oust Assad with the faked gas attacks so now we have the new Islamic State in Syria. Turkey, our supposed ally just refused a US military request to launch operations from their territory.....shortly after this we get.....A member of ISIL arrested by Iraqi troops confesses that Turkish territory is still used by militants.

    It's a war for your mind. Yes, there are real bad people out there but the MSM is used as a gov't propaganda outlet to control the people through fear. If the people stay scared they will give up every right and freedom they have to "stay safe" and those in power will retain power and control. Do you honestly believe we have a government "of the people" anymore? Do you think they care about the well being of the people they are elected to work for? Or are they more interested in playing the worldwide chess game we see? And this is IMO the errors of communism as mentioned at Fatima before our eyes.

    Anyone is open to disagree. :)
     
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  8. Andy3

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    I believe ISIS is real but agree with Jon's stance on them. They are the newest, manufactured fear machine that will enable further war and suppression of rights and laws in the world. They could be squashed in an instance by several hundred special forces and strategic strikes. Because this has not happened yet is proof to me that they are being allowed to spread this fear, torture and torment to fit some sort or political agenda. It wouldn't surprise me at all that some terrible terrorist attack will happen in the world and ISIS will be blamed and we will get a whole host of new laws, further removal of rights, perhaps martial law and the start of WW3. Stay close to the Lord and do not believe the lies that will come because of ISIS just as the lies that came from Al Quaida, who also was created by the CIA and used to create the war on terror which has done so much damage in the world. The shadow government who reports to Stan has a plan and we are seeing it play out as we have these past 20 years now. Our Lord has a plan too so stick with him. I could be wrong on all this but I highly doubt it.
     
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  9. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    I disagree :)

    Brother al
     
  10. FatimaPilgrim

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    I may take up a collection for tin foil hats for some of the new members that have shown up (folks lost from the Art Bell show?). I completely understand that the US govt is out of control and is the enemy of the Church and of free people. This can be found in prophecy and we are seeing it play out, but every single thing is not a boogie man that is created to "take control of your mind".

    I would highly urge some of you to quietly pray about this and I will pray for God to enlighten you. There is evil in the world and evil is running rampant. Let God show you the Truth through prayer.

    Isis isn't "manufactured" by anyone other than Satan. They are real. Pope Francis sent an envoy to see for himself what is going on with ISIS on the ground. Here is one of the envoy's reports:

    http://www.georgiabulletin.org/news...-calls-for-international-action-against-isis/

    The head Catholic in Iraq has also called for help for the atrocities going on:
    https://www.sydneycatholic.org/news/latest_news/2014/201498_1390.shtml

    This is real. It is evil. Evil exists and is running rampant, it is not something foisted upon us by the US govt or whoever else is out to get you. Sometimes a spade is simply a spade.

    Keep calm, pray, get close to God and have no fear and as Charlie says, take the next right step, one at a time. We are in dangerous times, but for the sake of yourself and your families please quit the paranoia about everything being a manufactured plot. The only plot is one God has laid out for us and we all need to go through it. If you spend your time getting close to Jesus' Immaculate Heart through Mary, you'll be much much better prepared to handle the tribulations that will continue to build than if you justsit around and think everything is a govt plot out to get you. Pray pray pray!

    I pray we all remember this is the Mother of God forum, and honor and pray for Mary's intercession to help us all seek refuge where God wills us to and that this forum doesn't continue to degrade into Art Bell Show nonsense.
     
  11. Andy3

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    And how does Satan "manufacture" if not through other entities? Answer me this. Why hasn't the governments and armies of the world squashed ISIS then when it would be simple? This is not tin foil hat, Art Bell stuff. Yes it is evil and evil shows itself in many ways. It is just as evil that the governments of the world has not stopped this when they can.
     
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  12. FatimaPilgrim

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    The US government has not squashed ISIS because our current commander in chief will not commit our military to go in and squash them. He won't for many reasons but the whole basis of his election was his promise to end the wars and withdraw our troops from Iraq. He pulled out, ISIS rose, and he won't go back in and squash them. We can go on and on about what other reasons he won't go back in, but the simple fact is yes our military could go in and wipe them out, but their commander in chief won't order them to do it.

    The US is the power that has held the world together and combated evil. If we don't do it, what governments and armies of the world are going to do it? The French? The Germans? The British?

    I am not going to discuss this further on this board, but I will be praying for many of you because the diabolical deceptions have many searching for boogie men. I will be praying hard for all on our forum as I have received many fruits from it, but not lately with all the Art Bell paranoid nonsense being posted. I pray that people realize this is mainly a group of faithful Catholics who are feeling and understanding the signs from heaven and are trying to prepare spiritually and help one another.

    There are many secular boards on the internet that folks can go discuss geo-political topics and paranoid anti-government rantings.

    This is the Mother of God Forum and I hope people will respect that and stick close to Jesus and Mary, they are our hope and the solution to our troubled world.
     
  13. MMM

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    I didn't say it wasn't real, that there isn't a group of radical muslims killing/displacing Christians in Iraq. This is clear and if you read my comments you'd see this. Your tin hat reference and implication I am not prayerful and close to Jesus and Mary is rather insulting. You can disagree with what I said or even what I believe is true and argue the points but attacking the messenger is about as anti-Christian as it gets and saying you'll pray for us poor disbelivers of propaganda is another vailed putdown. Sometimes things are more than they seem and many people just don't want to look, find out or even believe even when evidence is so strong as to be clearly obvious. I repect those that disagree but I don't call or imply they are wackjobs for it or call them nieve. This board has numerous topics many of which discuss things going on in the world. I may offer my opinion and view without a refernce to Jesus, Mary or faith but please don't imply you stand above others in this regard. We are free to talk here unless Padraig decides otherwise. The truth will come out eventually and all will see, even if it's not until we pass. There are secret societies and global elite steering things (IMO), ask Mark Mallett or does he wear a tin hat also??

    I also want to add fundamentally we are all on the same side. We all are Catholics/Christian and are sinners working to stay close to Jesus through Mary as things fall apart around us. Having a different view of things in the world shouldn't upset anyones peace. If my comment which is what I believe did this, I am sorry, it wasn't my objective. Reading things people believe that I totally disagree with use to get me unselttled quite often. More and more I don't get unsettled and am at peace with how I see things in the world. I am also not above being corrected and when I am I will be the first to admit I was wrong. I see how my not seeing the US government and military as the world's great evil fighting police force can hit close to home for those that do.

    Disagree, but please don't judge the state of my soul and relationship to God.

    Peace.
     
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  14. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    You should refrain from politely telling people who disagree with you to go away and "shut up".
     
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  15. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    Your assumption that you are more enlightened and can thus insult people is prideful and misplaced.
     
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  16. Jon

    Jon Archangels

    Pulling the Pope card does not make your argument true. The Pope is not complicit in this, but the Pope is not omniscient as a God unto himself.

    Curiously, the Pope alluded to this in his statements about ISIS and the justification for using force to combat their killing of Christians. He specifically refrained, and mentioned this specificity, that he was not presuming to know who or what forces and funding were "behind" ISIS....................
     
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  17. Andy3

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    I just don't see how discussing this or believing in the shadow government of the world keeps one away from Jesus and Mary. That is not the case for me so I don't know what you are basing that comment on personally. I am fully devoted to Mary and am her slave through the consecration to Jesus through Mary per St. Louis DeMontfort's way. This seems to really bother you Tom and I don't understand why but that is for you to figure out. Evil is evil for me and there is just as much hidden evil and agendas in the world all throughout history as there is open and in your face evils in the world. I will agree with one thing that I don't see the need for me to discuss this any further either. I do not listen to Coast to Coast and have not for years. This is the Mother of God forum and we discuss a number of issues and is not just a forum for prayer group. It is a great part of this forum but not the sole objective.
     
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  18. The "governments and armies of the world" always look to the U.S. to lead. When Obama drew his, now seen as crooked little wussie red line in the sand, and then followed up with nothing at a time when we actually could do something, he lied to the world and no one trusts him. The only ones with any real boots on the ground today are the good ol Aussies....and they just had their own up close and personal experience with this bloody subhuman terrorism. And, yes, there are other obvious reasons for this ongoing do nothing stance of the "dear leader". He has stated clearly as well, from the beginning, that if and when the prevailing winds should go against the Muslims he will stand firmly with them. Good grief....he armed and financed the Muzbros in Egypt while they were slaughtering the Christians there and imposing Sharia Law. And at least one form from his past that wasn't scrubbed from the internet has him registered at the Fransiscus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia as a Muslim (religion: Islam) under the second "father's" name, Soetoro:

    http://s519.photobucket.com/user/hrcbackup/media/ObamaRegistrationCrisp1.png.html

    This Catholic school allowed for the students to be taught in the religion noted on their registration forms. And that is where he learned to perfectly pray/chant the Koran which he also noted as the most beautiful of prayers. He has emphasized the celebrations of those various holidays while pretty much dissing the Christian/Jewish same.

    The most prominent, experienced Generals have publicly spoken against the no boots on the ground policy of this CIC and to show his anger towards their non-compliance in spirit he has overly emphasized this policy again. The military is now described as being 90% with no respect for this so called leader of theirs....so willing to put them in a sitting duck position while announcing regularly for the enemy just when, where we are willing to go; how many troops will be left in various places of combat; what his new rules of engagement are that will tie the hands of the troops in the midst of battle which have caused more fatalities of our own and life injuries; and how far he's willing to fight the enemy. Remember, he has listed returning vets and evangelicals on the "terror watch" list. And of course our borders are open to each and every individual with a terrorist bent....already witnessed. Very sick....very diabolical. So, without us, the rest also sit on the sidelines while the terrorists take note.
     
  19. MMM

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    Now if only ISIS could be found responsible climate change, Ebola, the financial collapse and GMO's then we'd finally have something to talk about :ROFLMAO::LOL:

    Is this article below proof of anything? No. Is it evidence worth considering? I'd say yes. Has the gov'ts denouced it as lies? Not that I can find. Did this appear on the 6 o'clock news you watched? Definitely not. But I am glad to move on. Any topic will have 3 groups, those that believe a point, those that fully don't and those in the grey open to being swayed one way or the other. This will always exisit and I think it is healthy.

    The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).
    Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called “the hornet’s nest”.
    NSA documents refer to recent implementation of the hornet’s nest to protect the Zionist entity by creating religious and Islamic slogans.
    According to documents released by Snowden, “The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state “is to create an enemy near its borders”.
    Leaks revealed that ISIS leader and cleric Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi took intensive military training for a whole year in the hands of Mossad, besides courses in theology and the art of speech.
     
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    ISIS was formerly associated and sprung from Al Qaeda which terror organization of horrendous atrocities literally threw them out as being too violent for even them! The world caliphate goal is in the instruction/teaching of all Muslims....some aren't willing to blow up bridges or themselves to get there but others are. Nonetheless the unwilling won't challenge the more blood thirsty. For that matter, even the "trusted" Afghan fighters willing to be trained to fight against our enemy there alongside our troops have joined that enemy and are now killing even our generals....because they know from our wuss leader that they will be abandoned to the terrorists when we leave.
     

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